Jnlp ie win7 sleep

hi,
I have on internet explorer (v8 or v9, 32/64bits ) on win7 64 bits (laptop, vmware or pc) a sleep of x second before first log of network
1) in java console :
Java Plug-in 1.6.0_31
Utilisation de la version JRE 1.6.0_31-b05 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
</jnlp>
-> Sleep x seconds
network : connexion de https.....
2) With wiresharck we see the first SYN after the x seconds (it is not a problem of network)
3) With process Monitor we see nothing during of the time
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/5692/javasleep.th.png
4) same problem with first jnlp test find online
5) no problem in
winxp with all browser
win7 64bits with firefox chrome
Have you same problem
best regards
gabriel
Edited by: 923296 on 26 mars 2012 03:10
Edited by: 923296 on 26 mars 2012 03:23

igor wrote:
Perhaps it is request to get proxy for the specific hostname. Do you have proxy in this setup?
Try changing proxy settings in the java control panel (set proxy explicitly instead of using system/browser settings or use no proxy if possible).
Does it make any difference?Thx , I resolved by uncheck in iexplorer the defaut option "automatically detect the network setting"
I changed the capture, before I used a keyboard shortcut with a DOS command .
Now i use several captures in the background.
I compare the time between process monitor and log jstack.
I make three tests:
1) only pid java.exe
2) only pid iexplorer.exe
3) both, it slowed the process hugely
log are here
http://www.mediafire.com/?8n348dd4z9j45i5
In test 1) I find the problem getProxyList
2012-04-05 10:21:44
Full thread dump Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (20.6-b01 mixed mode):
"JVM[id=0]-Heartbeat" daemon prio=6 tid=0x0000000006788000 nid=0xf8c in Object.wait() [0x00000000092ef000]
java.lang.Thread.State: TIMED_WAITING (on object monitor)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
     - waiting on <0x00000000db0f97c0> (a sun.plugin2.main.client.PluginMain$Heartbeat)
     at sun.plugin2.main.server.HeartbeatThread.run(Unknown Source)
     - locked <0x00000000db0f97c0> (a sun.plugin2.main.client.PluginMain$Heartbeat)
*"Thread-9" prio=4 tid=0x0000000006787000 nid=0x8a4 in Object.wait() [0x00000000091ee000]*
* java.lang.Thread.State: WAITING (on object monitor)*
*     at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)*
*     - waiting on <0x00000000db395040> (a sun.plugin2.message.Queue)**
*     at sun.plugin2.message.Queue.waitForMessage(Unknown Source)*
*     - locked <0x00000000db395040> (a sun.plugin2.message.Queue)*
*     at sun.plugin2.message.Pipe.receive(Unknown Source)*
*     at sun.plugin2.main.client.MessagePassingExecutionContext.getProxyList(Unknown Source)*
*     at sun.plugin2.main.client.PluginProxySelector.select(Unknown Source)*
*     - locked <0x00000000daf5e950> (a sun.plugin2.main.client.PluginProxySelector)*
*     at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.plainConnect(Unknown Source)*
*     at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.connect(Unknown Source)*
*     at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown Source)*
*     - locked <0x00000000db3940e8> (a sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection)*
*     at com.sun.deploy.net.HttpUtils.followRedirects(Unknown Source)*
*     at com.sun.deploy.net.BasicHttpRequest.doRequest(Unknown Source)*
*     at com.sun.deploy.net.BasicHttpRequest.doGetRequestEX(Unknown Source)*
*     at com.sun.deploy.net.DownloadEngine.isUpdateAvailable(Unknown Source)*
*     at com.sun.deploy.net.DownloadEngine.isUpdateAvailable(Unknown Source)*
*     at com.sun.deploy.net.DownloadEngine.getResourceCacheEntry(Unknown Source)*
*     at com.sun.deploy.net.DownloadEngine.getCachedFile(Unknown Source)*
*     at com.sun.javaws.jnl.LaunchDescFactory.buildDescriptor(Unknown Source)*
*     at com.sun.javaws.jnl.LaunchDescFactory.buildDescriptor(Unknown Source)*
*     at sun.plugin2.applet.JNLP2Manager.initialize(Unknown Source)*
*     at sun.plugin2.main.client.PluginMain.initManager(Unknown Source)*
*     at sun.plugin2.main.client.PluginMain.access$300(Unknown Source)*
*     at sun.plugin2.main.client.PluginMain$2.run(Unknown Source)*
*     at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)**
"Applet 1 LiveConnect Worker Thread" prio=4 tid=0x0000000006780000 nid=0x8b0 in Object.wait() [0x00000000079bf000]
java.lang.Thread.State: WAITING (on object monitor)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
     - waiting on <0x00000000db0f8fc8> (a java.lang.Object)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:485)
     at sun.plugin2.main.client.LiveConnectSupport$PerAppletInfo$LiveConnectWorker.run(Unknown Source)
     - locked <0x00000000db0f8fc8> (a java.lang.Object)
     at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
"ConsoleWriterThread" daemon prio=6 tid=0x0000000006786800 nid=0xc74 in Object.wait() [0x00000000090ef000]
java.lang.Thread.State: WAITING (on object monitor)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
     - waiting on <0x00000000db0be388> (a java.lang.Object)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:485)
     at com.sun.deploy.util.ConsoleTraceListener$ConsoleWriterThread.run(Unknown Source)
     - locked <0x00000000db0be388> (a java.lang.Object)
"Image Fetcher 3" daemon prio=8 tid=0x0000000006785800 nid=0x8cc in Object.wait() [0x0000000008fef000]
java.lang.Thread.State: TIMED_WAITING (on object monitor)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
     - waiting on <0x00000000db2c0608> (a java.util.Vector)
     at sun.awt.image.ImageFetcher.nextImage(Unknown Source)
     - locked <0x00000000db2c0608> (a java.util.Vector)
     at sun.awt.image.ImageFetcher.fetchloop(Unknown Source)
     at sun.awt.image.ImageFetcher.run(Unknown Source)
"Windows Tray Icon Thread" prio=6 tid=0x0000000006785000 nid=0x97c runnable [0x0000000008a1f000]
java.lang.Thread.State: RUNNABLE
     at com.sun.deploy.ui.WindowsJavaTrayIcon.mainLoop(Native Method)
     at com.sun.deploy.ui.WindowsJavaTrayIcon.access$700(Unknown Source)
     at com.sun.deploy.ui.WindowsJavaTrayIcon$2.run(Unknown Source)
     at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
"TimerQueue" daemon prio=6 tid=0x0000000006784800 nid=0x984 in Object.wait() [0x0000000006fcf000]
java.lang.Thread.State: WAITING (on object monitor)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
     - waiting on <0x00000000db22bab8> (a javax.swing.TimerQueue)
     at javax.swing.TimerQueue.run(Unknown Source)
     - locked <0x00000000db22bab8> (a javax.swing.TimerQueue)
     at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
"Browser Side Object Cleanup Thread" prio=6 tid=0x0000000006783000 nid=0x6ec in Object.wait() [0x0000000007dbf000]
java.lang.Thread.State: WAITING (on object monitor)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
     - waiting on <0x00000000db0ede10> (a java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue$Lock)
     at java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue.remove(Unknown Source)
     - locked <0x00000000db0ede10> (a java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue$Lock)
     at java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue.remove(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin2.main.client.LiveConnectSupport$BrowserSideObjectCleanupThread.run(Unknown Source)
"AWT-EventQueue-1" prio=6 tid=0x0000000006782000 nid=0xbb0 in Object.wait() [0x0000000007cbf000]
java.lang.Thread.State: WAITING (on object monitor)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
     - waiting on <0x00000000db066698> (a java.awt.EventQueue)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:485)
     at java.awt.EventQueue.getNextEvent(Unknown Source)
     - locked <0x00000000db066698> (a java.awt.EventQueue)
     at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown Source)
     at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source)
     at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown Source)
     at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
     at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
     at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)
"CacheCleanUpThread" daemon prio=6 tid=0x0000000006781800 nid=0x6cc in Object.wait() [0x0000000007bbf000]
java.lang.Thread.State: WAITING (on object monitor)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
     - waiting on <0x00000000db0362f0> (a com.sun.deploy.cache.CleanupThread)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:485)
     at com.sun.deploy.cache.CleanupThread.run(Unknown Source)
     - locked <0x00000000db0362f0> (a com.sun.deploy.cache.CleanupThread)
"CacheMemoryCleanUpThread" daemon prio=6 tid=0x0000000006780800 nid=0x5f0 in Object.wait() [0x0000000007abf000]
java.lang.Thread.State: WAITING (on object monitor)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
     - waiting on <0x00000000db02ae20> (a java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue$Lock)
     at java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue.remove(Unknown Source)
     - locked <0x00000000db02ae20> (a java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue$Lock)
     at java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue.remove(Unknown Source)
     at com.sun.deploy.cache.MemoryCache$LoadedResourceCleanupThread.run(Unknown Source)
"SysExecutionTheadCreator" daemon prio=6 tid=0x0000000006707000 nid=0x998 in Object.wait() [0x00000000078bf000]
java.lang.Thread.State: WAITING (on object monitor)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
     - waiting on <0x00000000db0111f8> (a sun.plugin.util.PluginSysUtil$SysExecutionThreadCreator)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:485)
     at sun.plugin.util.PluginSysUtil$SysExecutionThreadCreator.run(Unknown Source)
     - locked <0x00000000db0111f8> (a sun.plugin.util.PluginSysUtil$SysExecutionThreadCreator)
"AWT-EventQueue-0" prio=6 tid=0x000000000679f000 nid=0xad8 in Object.wait() [0x00000000077bf000]
java.lang.Thread.State: WAITING (on object monitor)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
     - waiting on <0x00000000daf9b448> (a java.awt.EventQueue)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:485)
     at java.awt.EventQueue.getNextEvent(Unknown Source)
     - locked <0x00000000daf9b448> (a java.awt.EventQueue)
     at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown Source)
     at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source)
     at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown Source)
     at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
     at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
     at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)
"AWT-Windows" daemon prio=6 tid=0x0000000006705800 nid=0x9a0 runnable [0x00000000076bf000]
java.lang.Thread.State: RUNNABLE
     at sun.awt.windows.WToolkit.eventLoop(Native Method)
     at sun.awt.windows.WToolkit.run(Unknown Source)
     at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
"AWT-Shutdown" prio=6 tid=0x0000000006705000 nid=0x358 in Object.wait() [0x00000000075bf000]
java.lang.Thread.State: WAITING (on object monitor)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
     - waiting on <0x00000000daf8dd10> (a java.lang.Object)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:485)
     at sun.awt.AWTAutoShutdown.run(Unknown Source)
     - locked <0x00000000daf8dd10> (a java.lang.Object)
     at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
"Java2D Disposer" daemon prio=10 tid=0x0000000006700800 nid=0xc88 in Object.wait() [0x00000000074bf000]
java.lang.Thread.State: WAITING (on object monitor)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
     - waiting on <0x00000000daf9b758> (a java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue$Lock)
     at java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue.remove(Unknown Source)
     - locked <0x00000000daf9b758> (a java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue$Lock)
     at java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue.remove(Unknown Source)
     at sun.java2d.Disposer.run(Unknown Source)
     at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
"Java Plug-In Pipe Worker Thread (Client-Side)" daemon prio=6 tid=0x0000000006805800 nid=0xe10 runnable [0x00000000070cf000]
java.lang.Thread.State: RUNNABLE
     at sun.plugin2.os.windows.Windows.ReadFile0(Native Method)
     at sun.plugin2.os.windows.Windows.ReadFile(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin2.ipc.windows.WindowsNamedPipe.read(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin2.message.transport.NamedPipeTransport$SerializerImpl.read(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin2.message.transport.NamedPipeTransport$SerializerImpl.readByte(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin2.message.AbstractSerializer.readInt(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin2.message.transport.SerializingTransport.read(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin2.message.Pipe$WorkerThread.run(Unknown Source)
"Timer-0" prio=6 tid=0x000000000671e000 nid=0xb10 in Object.wait() [0x0000000006ecf000]
java.lang.Thread.State: WAITING (on object monitor)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
     - waiting on <0x00000000daf51b20> (a java.util.TaskQueue)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:485)
     at java.util.TimerThread.mainLoop(Unknown Source)
     - locked <0x00000000daf51b20> (a java.util.TaskQueue)
     at java.util.TimerThread.run(Unknown Source)
"traceMsgQueueThread" daemon prio=6 tid=0x000000000671c000 nid=0xe90 in Object.wait() [0x0000000006dcf000]
java.lang.Thread.State: WAITING (on object monitor)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
     - waiting on <0x00000000daf30890> (a java.util.ArrayList)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:485)
     at com.sun.deploy.util.Trace$TraceMsgQueueChecker.run(Unknown Source)
     - locked <0x00000000daf30890> (a java.util.ArrayList)
     at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
"RMI TCP Accept-0" daemon prio=6 tid=0x0000000006823800 nid=0xf30 runnable [0x000000000656f000]
java.lang.Thread.State: RUNNABLE
     at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketAccept(Native Method)
     at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.accept(Unknown Source)
     - locked <0x00000000daf0b850> (a java.net.SocksSocketImpl)
     at java.net.ServerSocket.implAccept(Unknown Source)
     at java.net.ServerSocket.accept(Unknown Source)
     at sun.management.jmxremote.LocalRMIServerSocketFactory$1.accept(Unknown Source)
     at sun.rmi.transport.tcp.TCPTransport$AcceptLoop.executeAcceptLoop(Unknown Source)
     at sun.rmi.transport.tcp.TCPTransport$AcceptLoop.run(Unknown Source)
     at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
"Low Memory Detector" daemon prio=6 tid=0x0000000000351800 nid=0xcd4 runnable [0x0000000000000000]
java.lang.Thread.State: RUNNABLE
"C2 CompilerThread1" daemon prio=10 tid=0x000000000034f800 nid=0xf74 waiting on condition [0x0000000000000000]
java.lang.Thread.State: RUNNABLE
"C2 CompilerThread0" daemon prio=10 tid=0x000000000033e000 nid=0x7fc waiting on condition [0x0000000000000000]
java.lang.Thread.State: RUNNABLE
"Attach Listener" daemon prio=10 tid=0x000000000033c800 nid=0xc0c waiting on condition [0x0000000000000000]
java.lang.Thread.State: RUNNABLE
"Signal Dispatcher" daemon prio=10 tid=0x0000000000339800 nid=0x818 runnable [0x0000000000000000]
java.lang.Thread.State: RUNNABLE
"Finalizer" daemon prio=8 tid=0x0000000000328800 nid=0x9fc in Object.wait() [0x0000000005a8f000]
java.lang.Thread.State: WAITING (on object monitor)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
     - waiting on <0x00000000dae01300> (a java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue$Lock)
     at java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue.remove(Unknown Source)
     - locked <0x00000000dae01300> (a java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue$Lock)
     at java.lang.ref.ReferenceQueue.remove(Unknown Source)
     at java.lang.ref.Finalizer$FinalizerThread.run(Unknown Source)
"Reference Handler" daemon prio=10 tid=0x0000000000321000 nid=0xd4c in Object.wait() [0x000000000598f000]
java.lang.Thread.State: WAITING (on object monitor)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
     - waiting on <0x00000000dae011d8> (a java.lang.ref.Reference$Lock)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:485)
     at java.lang.ref.Reference$ReferenceHandler.run(Unknown Source)
     - locked <0x00000000dae011d8> (a java.lang.ref.Reference$Lock)
"main" prio=6 tid=0x000000000025b800 nid=0x424 in Object.wait() [0x000000000259f000]
java.lang.Thread.State: WAITING (on object monitor)
     at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
     - waiting on <0x00000000daf5a998> (a sun.plugin2.message.Queue)
     at sun.plugin2.message.Queue.waitForMessage(Unknown Source)
     - locked <0x00000000daf5a998> (a sun.plugin2.message.Queue)
     at sun.plugin2.message.Pipe.receive(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin2.main.client.PluginMain.mainLoop(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin2.main.client.PluginMain.run(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin2.main.client.PluginMain.main(Unknown Source)
"VM Thread" prio=10 tid=0x000000000031a800 nid=0x830 runnable
"VM Periodic Task Thread" prio=10 tid=0x0000000006718800 nid=0xbec waiting on condition
JNI global references: 1175
I tested again the 7u4 64, I uninstalled all. it's works =), Strange I had no jconsole.
jnlp spec="6.0+" codebase="http://192.168.2.171:8080/mobilyweb_v2-0.0.5-SNAPSHOT/applet/" href="http://192.168.2.171:8080/mobilyweb_v2-0.0.5-SNAPSHOT/applet/test.jnlp">
<information>
<title>test Applet</title>
<vendor>xxx</vendor>
<homepage href="http://www.mobilysim.com"/>
</information>
<update check="timeout" policy="always"/>
<resources>
<java version="1.6+"/>
<jar href="http://192.168.2.171:8080/mobilyweb_v2-0.0.5-SNAPSHOT/applet/applet_test.jar" download="eager" main="true"/>
</resources>
<applet-desc name="test Applet" main-class="test" documentbase="http://192.168.2.171:8080/mobilyweb_v2-0.0.5-SNAPSHOT/jsp/test.jsp" width="1" height="1"/>
</jnlp>
cache: Resource http://192.168.2.171:8080/mobilyweb_v2-0.0.5-SNAPSHOT/applet/test.jnlp has expired.
*> sleep here
network: Connexion de http://192.168.2.171:8080/mobilyweb_v2-0.0.5-SNAPSHOT/applet/test.jnlp avec proxy=DIRECT
network: Connexion de http://192.168.2.171:8080/ avec proxy=DIRECT

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