JRE 6u10 Vs Jinitiator 1.3.1.26

Hi All,
Please tell me the advantages of having JRE 6u10 installed on the client PC, instead of Jinitiator 1.3.1.26?
Regards
Paul

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Java console doesn't open from Firefox 3 with jre 6u10

OS: XP SP3
JRE: 1.6.0_10-b33
Browser: Firefox 3.0.3
Confirmed on a new profile, when Tools->Java Console is clicked, no console and the menu item becomes disabled

Thanks for reporting the issue.
In 6u10, the New Java Plug-In design has detached itself from a browser process which provides a more robust and enhanced experience. Developers can launch and configure their VM settings through an Applet. As a result, there is very little association between a browser process and Java runtime environment running Applets. In addition, with the new capabilities of the New Java Plug-In, there are more chances multiple VMs are launched within a web page. Therefore, it is no longer useful to launch Java Console via the browser menu as that will cause more confusion.
See
http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6644623 &
http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6632149
for more info.
I have submitted a bug reoprt, however. Thanks to your report, I realize the behavior on XP and Vista is different. XP does not open JC, but Vista does open JC. I have submitted a bug for this issue. http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6760484
Thanks,
RY

Edit JRE parameters within JInitiator 1.3.1.22 before install to client

I am running the Oracle Application Server - with users accessing the Discoverer product. To fix an Out Of Memory error it is necessary to edit the JInitiator (JRE) parameters to have -Xms256M -Xmx256M in the runtime window.
I wish to somehow have this change/line of code be added to the base software so that it downloads into the clients machines automatically at time of installation.
Any help is greatly appreciated.

You can run as many Jinits on the same machine as your hard drive can hold as long as they are versions 1.3.1.10 or newer. Only the one which is called in the CLSID or mime type (of the html) will be used.
Also, javaw is not called when running applets.
You can prove all of this with SysInternals FileMon:
http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/Filemon.html
However, as already mentioned, you will not be able to run multiple versions from within an existing browser session. This will cause the browser to crash.

Windows Vista - "JInitiator" Vs "Sun JRE"

Hi folks
we are using Oracle 10g AS. For the client end, we were using Oracle JInitiator 1.3.1.22 without any issues for the client OS Windows 2000, XP.
When the same application was accessed from Vista with JInitiator 1.3.1.22 - IE 7 got closed automatically. Then problem was overcomed when IE 7 replaced with Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.1 or higher. But, when we installed Java standard edition J2SE JRE for running other Java based applications, then this application is not working with firefox because of the JRE installed.
Latercase, we have configured the Oracle 10g AS for running the application with J2SE JRE at client system. Then it was possible that other Java applications as well as our application can be accessed with J2SE JRE with IE 7 in client system (vista OS), for few weeks only. Now, in the same system, when we access the application with J2SE JRE, it takes 3 mins open a form from the main screen.
But if we remove J2SE JRE and install JInitiator 1.3.1.22 and connect the application with Mozilla Firefox, the application works fine and opens the screen in 3-5 secs.
Summary:
1) Is it possible to use both JInitiator & J2SE JRE together in Vista for running Java based applications & Oracle 10g Applications?
2) Why is the difference, when the same application opened with JInitiator takes 3-5 secs to open a form, but J2SE JRE takes 3 mins for the same action?
Please help.
B. rgds
Muthu

I believe this is normal - see Mike Shaw's comment on Steven's blog post http://blogs.oracle.com/stevenChan/2008/12/reminder_migrate_your_jundefinediator_clients_to_sun_jre_now.html
You may open an SR to confirm.
HTH
Srini

JRE and Jinitiator

If JRE and Jinitiator are both installed and co-exist in my desktop, how can I force my IE(internet explorer) to run JRE instead of jinitiator when reading Java page? Do I need to uninstall Jinitiator first?
Please advise...I appreciate the suggestion from everybody!

Welcome to the forums !
The topic of this forums is "Community Feedback and Suggestions (Do Not Post Product-Related Questions Here)"
Pl re-post is a more appropriate forum.
Are you in an EBS environment ? If so, this is controlled by a setting in EBS
HTH
Srini

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First, I will start by saying that JInitiator was not intended to run on Win7, especially 64bit. So, it may be time to think about moving to the Java Plugin. Preferably one which is certified with your Forms version.
To your issue, I suspect you need to change the "Region and Language" settings on the client machine. This can be found on the Control Panel. If that doesn't help, take a look at this:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4850557/convert-string-from-codepage-1252-to-1250

Installing JRE 6u12 uninstalls 6u10 & 6u11 but not 6u07 or earlier - why?

G'day,
I've noticed that installing JRE 6u12 (on Windows Vista) removes JRE 6u10 and JRE 6u11 but not the versions prior to 6u10, i.e. 6.0 though 6u7.
In part this would seem to be due to the default installation directory for JREs 6u10+ being C:\Program Files\Java\jre, whereas for 6u07- it's C:\Program Files\Java\JRE1.6.0_NN
This seems a fairly superficial reason - is it something to do with the new features introduced in JRE 6u10, e.g. the "next generation" Java Plug-In? I can't find this behaviour documented anywhere so would be interested to understand this new policy and its motivation.
Thanks,
Chris.

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Forms 10g - Java Plug-in x Jinitiator

Hi
I have one system that is runing with Jinitiator, when run this system with Java Plug-in just not work! I click in the botton to call form just to do nothing => OPEN_FORM(vsNome_programa || '.fmx',ACTIVATE,no_SESSION,NO_SHARE_LIBRARY_DATA,vpId).
[jre611]
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baseHTML=basejpi.htm
baseHTMLjinitiator=basejpi.htm
baseHTMLjpi=basejpi.htm
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jpi_classid=clsid:CAFEEFAC-0014-0002-0006-ABCDEFFEDCBA
jpi_codebase=http://java.sun.com/products/plugin/autodl/jinstall-1_4_2-windows-i586.cab#Version=1,4,2,06
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I am posting a section of the formsweb.cfg from my configuration. This allows windows clients use Jinitiator and Linux clients to use Sun JRE.
[jtlsDDS33]
envFile=jtls33.env
ssoMode=true
form=dds_start_frm
pageTitle=JTLS DDS Forms
webformsTitle=JTLS DDS Forms
separateFrame=true
imageBase=codeBase
archive_jini=frmall_jinit.jar,jtlsdds.jar,frmrwinteg.jar,FormsGraph.jar
archive=frmall.jar,jtlsdds.jar,frmrwinteg.jar,FormsGraph.jar
logo=n
lookAndFeel=oracle
width=1280
height=1024
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[jtlsDDS34z]
envFile=jtls34.env
ssoMode=false
config=jpi
baseHTMLJInitiator=basejpi.htm
form=dds_start_frm
pageTitle=JTLS DDS Forms
webformsTitle=JTLS DDS Forms
separateFrame=true
imageBase=codeBase
archive=frmall.jar,jtlsdds.jar,frmrwinteg.jar,FormsGraph.jar
logo=n
lookAndFeel=oracle
width=1280
height=1024
we are using dynamic java versioning for the JRE, the following is also from my formsweb.cfg configuration file. Please note, it is set to 1.5 and higher, so if you have 1.6_13 JRE on the clients, the following will still work. There is a recent whitepaper on OTN dated January 2009 (Oracle 10gR2 Forms Services - Using Sun's Java Plug-in), which also provides detailed information on using Sun JRE.
# Parameter related to the version of the Java Plugin
# The following is for statically defining the jre version, the second line
# is for dynamically defining it (1.5 or higher). Given JTLS is configured
# to work 1.5 or higher, we will use the dynamic one. But currently our application
# uses JRE 1.5_05, so higher is recommended. Zafer, R&A 21 Oct 2005
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jpi_classid=clsid:8AD9C840-044E-11D1-B3E9-00805F499D93
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# jpi_mimetype=application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.5.0_05
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# should be set like below (this is the default for our application)
jpi_mimetype=application/x-java-applet;version=1.5
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R/ Zafer

OracleAS Discoverer 10.1.2.0.2 does not load JInitiator

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but it shows a white page. I've checked if I had popup blockers installed and I couldn't find anything.
If I run forms it installs the plugin without problems.

This could be caused to the fact that the Application Server machine has not been fully named in file:
<IASHOME>/discoverer/config/configuration.xml
look for entries like:
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complete the machine name (in this case "chaos") with your domain (for example : .oracle.com)
<jvm name= ... plugin_setup=chaos.oracle.com
So we have a fully named machine.
To modify perform the following:
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- and type the machine full name.
- restart opmn processes
- Try again to connect to discoverer plus.
And this time you should have either Sun JRE or Oracle JInitiator (depending on which one you have set in Application Server Configuration for Discoverer plugin).
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JRE - freezing window

Dear experts,
we have problem with freezing JRE window (I'm using JRE instead of Jinitiator) during starting applications. It happens occasionally, and our users couldn't logon...
Here's [picture |[URL=http://img191.imageshack.us/i/freezingwindows.jpg/]] .
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Sillent Uninstall JRE 6 10

having a lot of dificulty to get the silent uninstall working correctly
i would prefer to use one simple command line rather than making a long winded script, a transform (MST) file would be ok though.
i have just used the command line found on the official doco as follows -
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Remove the SAPdb folder, and the other SAP folder, in new versions it could be c:\usr or c:\sap. Not sure what it is for 6.10. You need to go to the registry and delete the SAP DB Tech node as well as any other references to the 6.10 engine, should be something there referencing the SysId for the system.
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The JRE kernel installation seems to have disappeared

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What happened to the Java kernel?
Since a few releases of JRE 6u10 (I think b22) and Java 7 I can't find the Java kernel installer anymore.
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/kernel-135055.html
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BI Graph with JRE

Dear professionals,
how to configure BI graph demo (Forms10gR2 demos) to work on AS along with JRE (instead with Jinitiator)?
I copied .jar file at /forms/java folder, change formsweb.cfg and run form, but there is no graph on the form... :(

Andreas Weiden wrote:
did you put the appropiate jar's in your archive-tag in the formsweb.cfg? You also may have a look at the java-console.archive_jini=frmall_jinit.jar,frmwebutil.jar,jacob.jar,my_icons.jar,*frame*.jar,accordion.jar,gmap.jar,FormsGraph.jar,demo.jar
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thx for quick response. As you could see, I already use some of the PJCs developed by you and Francois (so these jars works fine). I'm trying now to include chart in my Forms application.
I also tried to use jar from this site, but unfortunately with the same result - don't work...
http://www.bincsoft.com/articles/forms-wrapper-for-oracle-data-visualization-components/
I'm getting next message:
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Browser ie8 didn't show output

Any one tell me how to run forms on internet explorer 8 while using oracle 9i developer suite. while it is running smothly on ie 6

as far as i know IE8 is not certified for Oracle Apps IE 8 is certified, but only with Sun JRE 1.6.0_16 or higher and Oracle Forms 10g R2 patchset 3 (10.1.2.3.0) or higher (reference: Client Platform Statement of Direction 10g R2 and Oracle Application Server 10g (10.1.2) Certification Matrix [ +see Table 9 Oracle Forms Applications on Client Platforms Certified Configurations+ ] ).
1.install FireFox Version 2.0.0.20How does installing FireFox help the OP run a Forms Application in Internet Explorer 8?
2.Install the latest JRE from Sun. I have installed "jre-6u10-windows-i586-p-s.exe".Now you're talking - IE 8 is not compatible with older Java Runtimes. The minimum recommended version is Sun JRE 1.6.0_14 - preferably the current version (1.6.0_23). This is only part of the solution, however, you have to modify the "formsweb.cfg" to match the installed JRE. Modify the following section of the formsweb.cfg (\%ORACLE_HOME%\forms\server\formsweb.cfg):
# System parameter: base HTML file for use with JInitiator client
## Original
#baseHTMLjinitiator=basejini.htm
## New
baseHTMLjinitiator=basejpi.htm
# Page displayed to users to allow them to download Sun's Java Plugin.
# Sun's Java Plugin is typically used for non-Windows clients.
# (NOTE: you should check this page and possibly change the settings)
## Original
#jpi_download_page=http://java.sun.com/products/archive/j2se/1.4.2_06/index.html
## New
jpi_download_page=http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
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## Original
#jpi_classid=clsid:CAFEEFAC-0014-0002-0006-ABCDEFFEDCBA
## New (Specific to version 1.6.0_23)
jpi_classid=clsid:CAFEEFAC-0016-0000-0023-ABCDEFFEDCBA
## Alternatively, specific to version 1.6.0 and any update
jpi_classid=clsid:CAFEEFAC-0016-0000-FFFF-ABCDEFFEDCBA
# Parameter related to the version of the Java Plugin
## Original
#jpi_codebase=http://java.sun.com/products/plugin/autodl/jinstall-1_4_2-windows-i586.cab#Version=1,4,2,06
## New
jpi_codebase=http://java.sun.com/update/1.6.0/jinstall-6-windows-i586.cab#Version=1,6,0,23
# Parameter related to the version of the Java Plugin
## Original
#jpi_mimetype=application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.4.2_06
## New (Specific to version 1.6.0_23)
jpi_mimetype=application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.6.0_23
## Alternatively, specific to any update of version 1.6.0
#jpi_mimetype=application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.6.0These changes will instruct Forms to use JPI (Java Plug-In) instead of Jinitiator and specify the JPI version to use.
Copy the jvm.dll (appx Ver 11.0.0.15 size 2.25 MB (2,359,296 bytes)) Copying a different "JVM.dll" is a complete HACK and is not endorsed or supported by Oracle. You would be better advised to upgrade to Oracle Developer Suite 10g R2 (10.1.2.x.x) than to implement a HACK on each client workstation that will run your Forms application.
It will work fine with the IE8 browser.Clearly, it doesn't work. You were on the right track with installing the latest JRE, but you missed the step of modifying the formsweb.cfg to use the updated JRE. After making the aforementioned change to the formsweb.cfg - your Forms 9i application "should" work, but it may not. If it doesn't work, you might be running into an incompatability with the operating system on the client workstation. What OS of your client workstation?
Hope this helps,
Craig B-)
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Error Running Oracle Apps and Discoverer at the same time

Hello,
We are having trouble running Oracle Apps and Discoverer at the same time on certain user's machines. Here are the specifics:
The user opens Oracle Apps in Internet Explorer. The user then opens Discoverer in another Internet Explorer windows and receives the following error: Runtime Error! Program: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe abnormal program termination
As a work around, I installed Firefox on those user's machines. These users run Oracle Apps in Internet Explorer and run Discoverer in FireFox. This has solved the problem in 99% of the cases. However, there is one user who is having FireFox using Discoverer freeze when running Oracle Apps in Internet Explorer.
Can anyone provide any insight on how I can solve these conflict issues so users can run Oracle Apps and Discoverer at the same time?
Thanks in advance for your help,
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Hi Michael,
I agree with you completely. It is reccommended to run 10g on a separate physical server unless you have sufficient resources to run on the same server (which even most large clients do not) Even then, I would recommend a separate server.
I should have put my comment in context :-)
a.) I was only stating that it was possible
and
b.) whether 10g is installed on the same physical server or separate should not affect the client browser crashing issue that was posted.
I do have an install with EBS11i and Discoverer 10g on the same physical server and it works fine (this is sandbox/ TEST). Most of my large customers have 10g installed on multiple physical servers due to load balancing (capacity).
I do work for Oracle. I try to help out on the forum when I can, but it is hit or miss :-(
I would be glad to discuss anything privately.
As for the issue at hand, I can reproduce the problem and here is what is occuring.
I have EBS 11i configured with Jiniator 1.3.24
I have Discoverer 10g configured with Sun Java plugin 1.4.2_06
1. If you launch EBS 11i apps and a form with MS IE, then the browser launches the form using Jiniator JRE 1.3.xx (whatever you have configured in AutoConfig for EBS11i)
2. Next, the user navigates to EBS 11i SSWA and launches a Discoverer workbook.
What occurs is a child IEXPLORE.exe process is spawned from the parent IEXPLORE.exe process and Discoveer Plus is launched. The parent iexplore.exe process will be attached to the Jiniator JVM. Now if Discoverer is configured with
a.) Sun Java Plugin or
b.)a version of Jinitiator that is a different version from what EBS 11i is configured with
then you may get this conflict.
It really is an MS IE/JRE conflict with Jinitiator and Sun Java Plugi and the way the broswers attaches to the JVM (IMHO) as this behaviour could be reproduced with other non-oracle java applets.
You can workaround the situation by:
a. configure EBS11i and Discoverer to use the same version of Jiniator 1.3.xx
b. educate the users to open one MS IE browser to connect to EBS11i and then open a second MS IE browser to login to EBS11i SSWA or Discoverer 10g Plus directly to launch workbooks. They need to to this by clicking on the icon and not using File >> New browser. Clicking on the icon will spawn a new parent iexplore.exe process that can attach to a second/different JVM. File >> New Window will spawan a child of the parent.
c. As you did use two browser versions. MS IE for EBS11 connection and FireFox for Disocverer 10g connection.
I would choose optoin b, so that you can use Sun Java Plugin with Discoverer.
Open to any comments. I hope that helps you workaround the problem. The ideal solution is to have EBS 11i use/cerified with the 1.4 or 1.5 JRE. In poking around, I see there is a related post to this on one of Oracle's EBS 11i Product Managers Blog.
See:
http://blogs.oracle.com/schan/2006/04/18#a23

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