K7N2-L stuck with 100MHz FSB?

First sorry for my bad english.
I can´t get 166MHz FSB. X(
I have tried bios v3.4, 3.5 and 3.62b.
No matter if I use auto, high perf or manual for cpu, normal or high perf cpu timing and auto, spd or manual memory timings. Bios always tell it´s XP 1100MHz.
When I changed multipler to 12.5 I get 1250MHz XP.
Two times I had blank screen and system halt when using 133MHz FSB.
When entering to bios setup with del-key, sometimes bios screen is black, only 2 centimeters high blue line bottom screen. Rebooting few times and it is normal again and can change settings.
I had before D1000MHz morgan and I run it default FSB and memory 1:2 (200MHz) with high perf settings and had no problems.
Is bios corrupted or some onboard component blown?!

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I have the same motherboard, and from what I understand, your Athlon XP-Mobile 3000+ with 266 FSB will only run at 166. A AMD 3200+ with 400 Mhz fsb will run at 200 Mhz (with the correct memory). My board has an xp 2800 + with 333 fsb and the best I can get it is 166.
As far as overclocking, I don't know - I'm not brave enough to try (and I don't know enough about it).
Here's a link to the manual, if you look in the section about memory, it will give you the fsb possibilities.
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But lowering it down to 100mhz FSB lowers the CPU to a "measured" 1.35Ghz (still faster then his previous P233MMX lol). I've talked to the custom and he's ok by running like this.
But I want to know if I will damage anything, CPU/socket/VRM/etc, if I leave it at a 100mhz FSB for a while? Until he can afford to get a 256MB DDR stick, this is what he'll be stuck with.
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When I was running at 133mhz FSB, I noticed WinXP reported it was running at 1.8Ghz. I don't know much about AMD processors, but since it is an 2200+ cpu, isn't that 2.2Ghz? I didn't do any testing though to verify it was that low. Just noticed what WinXP reported.
Any thoughts about the lower FSB though? Heh, kind of funny eh? Everyone buys these Athlon's and Duron's to overclock the out of them, liquid cool them, etc. To get the max performance. And here I am, trying to LOWER the speed. Seems to be very stable, just need to know from the "Experts at be" if this will be ok to leave for a while (6 months or so).
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Originally posted by Toenne
Enter the bios and look for 'advanced chipset features'. Set 'configure sdram timing by' to 'user'. Is there at 'sdram frequency' an option 'hclk-33'? In this case your ram runs 33mhz slower than the fsb, so you can set fsb to 133mhz for full cpu speed an use 100mhz ram sticks.
Well I tried this. Latest bios (as the Bios Updater software told me anyhow).
Under the Advanced Chipset Features, there's an option for DRAM timing, yes. Choices are only:
-100mhz
-RTS (which is whatever the motherboard is set to)
If I boot up with the jumper on 133mhz FSB, my options change to only:
-133mhz
-RTS
And the system is unstable if I select 133mhz instead of RTS (like nothing changed).
The information displayed above where these settings are says, "SDRAM CLOCK SPEED: 133Mhz" and it doesn't allow me to change it. No matter selecting MANUAL on any of the features below it or not. Setting the jumper to 100mhz shows SDRAM CLOCK SPEED: 100mhz. So at least I know the jumper is working. lol
Nope, no option anywhere for 'hclk-33'. Anyhow, already delivered to custom now. Hope he enjoys it. Told him he needs to save up for some ram sometime soon.

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