K7T Turbo2 Hangs on bootup..HELP!!

For some reason, my Turbo2 with the latest 3.6 bios stalls during the drive initialization bootup. In other words, while it scans for the drives, floppy, cdrom and harddrive during bootup the system would just hang. I would have to press the reset buttom for the system to reboot and would bootup just fine the second time.
Why is doing this? Other than the hanging up on the first bootup after the computer has been off, the computer runs just fine.
Any ideas??
Here are the specs:
K7T Turbo2 w/ latest bios 3.6
AMD Tbird 1.3ghz
256mb PC133 SDRAM
20gig maxtor HD
TNT2 M64 32mb video card
300watt inwin S500 case
Guillemot Maxi Muse sound card
100mb internal zip drive
52x generic cdrom
1.44 floppy
Windows XP Pro with SP1

Thanks Bas,
I flashed to the latest because the latest bios allowed my k7tturbo2 to support 2400+, and 2600+ amd XP cpus. With the 3.5 it would only allow support up to only 2200+. I don't have the 2400+ as of yet, on order at the momment.
Thanks again.

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