K8MM ILSR + Athlon 64 3000 : wong temperature after restart

Hello,
I have just installed a K8MM ILSR.
Starting with a cold system, CPU temperature is around 40°C after one hour of normal use.
If I restart the computer, the temperature is immediately at 50°C and stay stable.
1 - which temp is the right one (40 or 50°C) ?
2 - the BIOS release is 3.4, is this problem solved in the new release 3.7?
Thanks for your help

Are you using any USB devices? Might sound strange, but on some systems USB devices affect the temp sensors in some strange way. When I power on my USB HDD, my temp shoots up a few degrees Celsius. Switching off the drive doesn't help, temps go back to normal after a reboot. Same thing on three different systems (all MSI boards)...

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Best regards,
MSI Technical Support
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