K8n IDE Detect Trouble

Just got my K8N in the mail today, and I'm having problems getting it started. When I have a HD plugged in, it gets to the Detecting IDE Drives... and hangs. With only a CDROM plugged in, it boots fine. One time I was able to get it to start up (it took quite a while), and even began installing windows (managed to partition the disc and everything) but then halfway through install, it froze and hasn't worked again since.

I have a K7N2delta and and I have the same problem. I have a HD connected to the primary Ide channel as master, a DVD-Rom connected to the Secondary channel as master and a CD-Rom to as slave to the Secondary Channel too. If I unplug the DVD-rom, the PC will boot as normal, if I connect it, it will stay at Detecting IDE Drives. I tried connecting the DVD-Rom alone and it still wouldn't boot. The Bios won't auto-detect it either. Both jumpers on the drives are set correctly. .
IF I change the jumper on the DVD-rom to CS or slave, it will boot OK, but it won't see my DVD-rom AND the light on the drive stays ON rather than blink. Also I cannot open the tray of the DVD-rom although I tried different molex connectors to no avail.
Any Ideas.?
My DVD-Rom is an MSI 8216

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ive got a msi:k7n2g that ive had 4 over a yr and just got around 2 installin.the sys will post but will not detect the ide mastors or slaves, ive changed the cables and the cd-rom and hd are both set as masters.ive read the posts in here bout sata,native and pata but i cant find those options in my bios in my msi:k7n2g.
could somebody post,email or pm me the step by step "i know im weak" but i would really appreciate it but if thats not the case could somebody tell me where 2 go??? its gotta be a bois issue i would think?!?!
CPU:AMD ATHLON XP 2500+ 1.83GHZ SOCKET A 333 FSB
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PS: forgot the mf but its a 550

Make sure drive is jumpered correctly.
Disconnect the CDROM.
Connect the HD to IDE1 making sure that the red stripped wire is on pin 1 on both the mobo and drive. Make sure the drive has a power connector attached.
Boot, and listen for your HD spinning up.
Make sure you have IDE detection in the BIOS set to Auto.
Check for HD status during POST.
Once you've got it up and going then install the CDROM on IDE2.

For people having POST problems (long IDE detection) on Cold Boot with K8N Neo 2

It's been 2 weeks that I'm looking for the root of this particular problem.
I've found today how to get rid of it. Try this if you haven't already :
In BIOS root screen, activate the hidden settings (Press SHIFT+F2 and ALT+F3 rapidly)
Then go to the Cell Menu and disable NV/ATI Speedup feature.
Save your settings, turn off your comp.
Restart and check with cold boots
Sweep

I have a worse variation of this problem (but also the startup IDE freezing that fixes with Alt-Ctl-Del), that I discovered while trying to boot from an ME CD or from a WinME Floppy boot disc when and only when I tell it to load support for CD-Rom going into DOS. It freezes when it gets just past detecting the IDE, requiring a cold boot reset.
If I boot off the WinME CD or a floppy boot disk, and don't choose CD-ROM support I can get to the A: drive with RAM C drive to be able to flash the BIOS (which I did up to 1.3, after which I reset the CMOS jumper). The problem persists with the new MOBO 1.3 BIOS.
I made sure the IDE-2 ribbon was connected properly, and even tried changing the jumper from master to cable select on the Plextor DVD burner....still locks up when I boot to DOS with CD Rom support enabled.
My next step was to disconnect the IDE cable from the Plextor so the drive was not the issue, and it still freezes if I choose CD Support from Boot disk.
I next removed the CMOS battery (which btw, will require you to call MS to reactivate XP), checked the voltage with a battery tester, replaced it, cleared CMOS jumper again, use mostly default BIOS settings except disabled SATA, and the same damn problem.
My friend, Triple6 in this same thread has the identical setup except different RAM, different nVidia 6800 Ultra Video card and he does not have the same bootup issue. We checked the same BIOS settings.
I'm beginning to wonder if I have a bad MOBO that won't allow me to boot off a floppy with CD-ROM enabled. Very Strange!

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why would the CD rom drive work earlier and not now?

ok... so it wasn't really a huge deal after all. i had already checked all my bios settings and all that... what was concerning me was that my CD rom worked the night before but not now... and then i realized.. both HDDs (which i thought i'd fried) where connected to IDE cable A, whereas my CDrom was on IDE cable B. when i was not getting CD-ROM detection it was because it was on IDE cable A, which i have now determined is faulty! yay!
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This will be my first post here, and I hate it to be a problem post. Anyway, I built my own computer about 2 months ago, and I seem to have a problem with 2D applications. Here is my setup before I show you what I mean.
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PSU Antec 350W
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200GB Maxtor SATA HD
Sony DVD-RW
1 GB Mushkin PC3200 DDR Ram
OS Windows XP Pro
Ok, here is my exact problem. I seem to have trouble playing most MPEG, AVI, and WMV video types. I say most, because some will work ok. I have a picture of my problem here:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/ZeroX585/hmm.jpg
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BIOS hang on IDE detection

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SATA Port 1: Western Digital Raptor, 10K rpm, 36GB
IDE Channel 1: CD-RW: Lite-On 52x32x52 jumped as MASTER (no slave on channel)
IDE Channel 2: Maxtor ATA133 7200rpm 120GB jumped as MASTER (no slave on channel)
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Primary IDE Slave    Not Installed
Secondary IDE Master Not Installed
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On-Chip ATA(s) Operate Mode: NATIVE Mode
ATA Configuration: P-ATA Only
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SOLVED...SO FAR THANKS TO BEJON2000!
First off, thank you to ALL who offered your kind support and help. I appreciate you taking your time to assist me.
bejon2000 - you were my saving grace!!!
Absolutely unbelievable to me, but thanks to you for sharing your experience with the 3-pin fan problem. Based on that post, I again decided to dig into my power connections and cabling. I admit, I thought your comment sounded like a long shot, but was so desperate and frustrated. Guess what, I am ecstatic that I tried your suggestion.
After disconnecting the 3-pin fan off the same power connector also feeding my secondary hard drive, and reconnecting it to a different power cable with less load - here is my result. I have experienced NOT A SINGLE HANG-UP now in 3 days. I will continue to monitor this, but so far I think all is well.
My last thought: THANK YOU again for sharing your experiences all. I could not have done it without your insight, and I am grateful for forums such as these. Bejon2000, you especially helped me out tremendously, thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

MSI K8N PLATINIUM SLI - TROUBLE POSTING?

To start with my spec's
AMD 3500 S939 'Venice' Stock Cooler
MSI K8N PLAT SLI
BIOS V 3
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1gb (2x512mb) OCZ PC 4000 VX GOLD
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All brand new and no overclocking undertaken.
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The next day went out to boot up and this is where the problems started to occur.
I hit the power button the case fans spin, cpu coooler fan starts spinning, blue LED on motherboard comes on, the DLED's hang at chipset initiallization. Eventually after hitting the power up button on the case and resetting about ten times the system finally boots up, runs for hours like a dream, will reboot with no problems.
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I put it together outside the case on insulated material with 1 DIMM of RAM, HDD, Graphics Card. Same problem it eventually booted. Then it reboots fine first go while adding more and more hardware.
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I just want to know as it is only a week old and I can RMA for a new board if I do it in the next few days.
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Originally posted by Dmayner Anyway when I was setting up my new board yesterday the first time I tried to start it up it would not initialize the primary IDE. Not knowing what else to do I switched cables. This seems to have fixed it and thus far I have not had any other problems
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I'm having one hell of a time here with this board. I have just about reached the end of my rope with it. First off I am trying to use a Raid array (0) with a pair of raptors. The floppy that was sent with the Mobo will not work correctly......ok..so I made one according to the manual from the CD. It appears to function. However when windows tries to boot for the first time I blue screen. Various Errors. I have tried 3 different sets of ram. All of which worked in my KV8 Max 3, a board know to be picky about ram.
Is this a bios issue? I have seen a few otheres with similar problems.
K8N Neo Plat - Kingston Hyper X dimm slots 1 and 2, Antec True 550 PS, Lite On CR-RW - ATI AIW 9800 Pro........

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Hello everybody,
Sorry for posting this again but i just don't understand it.
The facts:
Every once in a while - sometimes daily and sometimes every 2nd or 3rd day - when I power on my computer the bios hangs at its very first stage with all d-leds red.
This is according to the d-bracket : 'system power on, bios will hang here if processor is damaged on not installed properly'.
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I see that here are a couple of guys with quite a huge knowlege of this machines and so i hope that someone has a clue to what this issue can be caused by and perhaps how it could be solved ?
Thanx,
vanish
(Forgive me my misspellings, i'm not a native so)

This is the email I sent to MSI UK:
Hi
I believe I have a faulty motherboard as the BIOS only posts after I switch the power on at least 3 - 6 times from a cold boot.
The error message I keep getting is 'warning system now in safe mode, please reset overclocking features in bios or press F1 to continue' although I have not altered any overclocking features or overclocked anything. One thing I have noticed is that the processor is running at 2210 Mhz (used MSI Core Centre) instead of 2200 MHz as standard even though it is displays 200 MHz in the BIOS, could this be possibly something to do with it?
Please could you suggest what process I need to do to RMA the board or how I could diagnose the problem.
I have tried 3 different types of RAM in various slots, 1 and 2 sticks, dual and single channel and the same thing keeps happening.
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Athlon 64 3500 90nm
Thermalright XP-90 Heatsync with a Vantec Stealth 90mm fan.
MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum
TRIED RAM: 2 x 512 MB. Infineon 3-3-3-8 Cas 2 PC3200
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2x120 GB Maxtor Diamondmax 9 SATA hard disks (not in any RAID config)
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