K8N Neo3-F RAM issues

Hi, I'm new at this forums and I already read the section about "find answers quick" (well... something alike that), but in the memory that works/doesn't work, everyone talks about the K8N Neo4 Platinum.
I have a K8N Neo3-F Mobo, that comes with nForce4 chipset, and I'm having RAM problems... I've tried everything I could, but a friend of mine told me that my mobo can't stand my RAM
I'm using Kingston Value Ram CL3 (3-3-3), 2x512 MB.
Has anyone tried this RAM before? Eny problems in tha past I should know about? Would it help if I put the RAM clock to 166MHz instead of 200Mhz that is the default?
Any help welcome...

Quote from: MGP on 01-March-06, 01:26:36
It would help to know your system specs including P/S, OS and exactly what problems you are having.
I can give you a tip to start with.
Adjsut your memory voltage to 2.6 or 2.65 and manually set your memory timings to 2.5-5-5-7-2T
Mobo: the one I said: MSI K8N NEO3-F
Proc: AMD Athlon 64 3200+
RAM: 2 x Kingston Value RAM KVR400X64C3A/512
OS: Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2
Currently the BIOS detects my memory as 3-3-3-8, wouldn't be bad if I change the first 3 for a 2.5?
Most of the problems I have are while playing 3D games (World of Warcraft / Warcraft III), it is as simple like the PC crashes: the Screen Freezes, and if I'm listening to music, it starts to sound like a really bad DJ...
My PC in not overclocked, however, I tried running a program called prime95, that basically tests processor and memory of a PC to see if it is stable... well, it has 3 kinds of test: processor test, memory test, and combined.
- When I run the Processor test, it gives no problem at all after several hours, it works fine.
- When I run any of the other tests, it gives problems (errors) after a couple minutes... even SECONDS!
The problem with prime95 is that it works only to tell that your PC either has problems or not, but it doesn't tell you what they are.
Hope this information is usefull and you can help me.
Ty for reading.

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Quote from: Frankeputer
Check to see if there is a wire running from your Front USB ports to the #10 slot of your USB block which connects to the motherboard header.
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Quote from: fokker on 08-April-06, 05:57:44
The ram are OK, used it in a k7n2 for month without a single hang.
Just to be sure, run your system with just one stick at a time (try both sticks of course) and see if it still hangs. If it doesn't hang with just one stick, then it's a memory issue or your mobo doesn't like those RAMs in pairs for some reason.
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Quote from: kelune on 30-May-06, 10:02:21
does the moded bios locked the PCI, PCIE, AGR frequency?
yes
Quote from: reb0rn on 30-May-06, 09:43:20
Bosskiller can you please email me your modded bios for K8N Neo3 i have revision 1.0 max fsb i reach wos 305Mhz (clockgen) @sempron 2800+(new BX core 64bit). I also use linux but there i can not OC becouse of bios bug:((
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(not gr8 english but i hope you get what i try to say
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mine email: [email protected]
Tnx
done.

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Beaudog53,
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