LAN or WAN port ?
I have a AEBS that I connect (and disconnect frequently) to an existing LAN (ethernet based).
I'm testing my memory because I haven't used the AEBS in several months.
I believe I always connect my router to the AEBS using its LAN port. FWIW, the router in turn is connected to the DSL modem as well as another computer and printer. I have the AEBS set to not Distribute IP addresses.
The user manual and the Designing Airport Networks have me confused if using the AEBS' LAN port is the correct connection.
Should I use LAN or WAN port in this network design?
Thank you.
You will want to connect your Internet router to the WAN port of the AEBS.
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Lan and Wan port on Airport express
Hi guys I am wondering if you could help me out with my airport express.
I recently bought an airport express and have it set up as the following:
Router--->ethernet cable in to the Wan of Airport express--->ethernet from Airport Express Lan to computer
This is so that I have hardwired internet to my gaming computer and wifi in my room for all my devices. The problem is, however, next year I will not be in a situation that allows me the same setup. I will be too far away to run an ethernet cable from the router to the airport express. So I have decided I shall use it to join the network wirelessly and relay internet through both the Wan and Lan port (think this is called bridge mode?). I was also intending on connecting an ethernet hub to one of the ports so that I can connect multiple devices, smart tv, macbook, ps3 etc. But having one of the ports exclusively to my gaming pc.
My question is, with both Lan and Wan ports relaying internet to multiple devices, would I see a drop in performance, in particular in regard to my compter? Or is the airport express able to join both the 2.4GHz or 5GHz and relay each connection to a specific lan port?
Unfortunately I am not in a position to test this yet, lacking a 5GHz connection in my halls, so I would appreciate if anyone could help shed some light.
Thank youis the main router also an apple product? if so, then yes you can extend wirelessly, but if the main router is an apple product, why are you bothering to extend wirelessly at all when the main router's signals should be strong enough?
if the main router is NOT an apple router, then you wil NOT be able to extend it wirelessly period.
in my experience, there are very FEW places you NEED to extend a network wirelessly, and i always recommend against it since there is a big performance decrease.
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The Ethernet connection will be from one of the LAN <-> ports on the TC to the WAN port (circle of dots icon) on the AirPort Extreme.
Then you can use AirPort Utility - Manual Setup to configure the AirPort Extreme as follows:
Click the Wireless tab located just below the row of icons
Wireless Mode = Create a wireless network (Not "extend a wireless network" as many users incorrectly think)
Wireless Network Name = Same name as your TC network
No check mark needed next to "Allow this network to be extended"
Radio Mode = Automatic
Channel = Automatic
Wireless Security = Same setting as the TC network
Wireless Password = Same setting as the TC network
Confirm Password
Click the Internet icon
Click the Internet Connection tab
Connect Using = Ethernet
Connection Sharing = Off (Bridge Mode)
Update to save settings and restart the entire network
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AEBS: use WAN port as a LAN port ?
Hello there,
My Airport Extreme base station is connected to an Airport Express as a WDS wireless bridge (none of them distribute IP, there is a router on the network).
I have two printers hooked on the AEBS, a USB one, and an Ethernet printer on the LAN port (Apple LaserWriter). Therefore, the WAN port is not used.
I would like to connect a non-airport Mac to the network thanks to the AEBS.
Can I plug the Mac with Ethernet on the WAN port or I must purchase an Ethernet switch to plug on the LAN port and then on the Mac and printer ?
The documentation says the WAN port is for cable modem only but I don't see any hardware limitation that could allow only those device.
Thank you for your help.
PBook 12' Mac OS X (10.4.9)Thank you Duane for those infos.
I didn't know that the difference between a WAN and a LAN port was a matter of IP adressing. Nice to know.
I will try that ASAP, if there is no more post, that means it works great.
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i need to keep my PC connected (by cable) to the internet, can i connect my AirPort Express to the port in the wall and then connect my pc the the Airport Express. eg.
(wall port (-cable-) [WAN)(LAN] (-cable-) ethernet port on my pc). Bold is the airport express itself.
Trying to get my ipad mini connected.
Because this is a work ethernet connection, i dont want to go poking around too much.
Thank you.in theory, yes, but you work network admin may have locked the network preventing this from working
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Using the WAN port as a "LAN" port on the Airport Extreme Base Station...
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I'm re-building my home wireless network and I'm doing so in preparation for the Slingbox AV I ordered last week. Here's my current setup:
I have a DSL modem attached to an Airport Express (802.11n) in my office broadcasting my internet signal. I have an Airport Extreme Base Station (802.11g) set up in my living room as a WDS extender. I currently use the base station in my living room to connect the DishNetwork ViP722 DVR to the internet and allow me to set recordings remotely on my iPhone when I'm away from home. I use the LAN port on the base station to do this, and now with the Slingbox on the way (should be here early next week), I'm wondering what I need to do to make an internet connection available for the Slingbox AV.
My question: Will I be able to simply use the WAN port as a "LAN" port since the Airport Extreme Base Station is being used as a WDS? It'd be awesome if the WAN port would become, essentially, a LAN port since it isn't being used.
Thanks in advance for your advice and insight!slugoo wrote:
My question: Will I be able to simply use the WAN port as a "LAN" port since the Airport Extreme Base Station is being used as a WDS? It'd be awesome if the WAN port would become, essentially, a LAN port since it isn't being used.
I'd be surprised if that worked. The operation of an AirPort base station depends on keeping the WAN port and the LAN port(s) separate, as those normally are on two different networks.
You might consider buying an Ethernet hub or switch, which would allow your AirPort Extreme's LAN port to be shared. Here's an example of an inexpensive one:
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Can the WAN port be used as LAN when AirPort Express (2nd Generation) is setup to join a wireless network? (IE: 2 LAN ports)
I haven't been able to get a clear answer on this. I believe the 1st generation would act as WAN/LAN depending on setting, but what happens with the 2nd generation?
Thank you for your time.If the Express joins a wireless network wirelessly, in other words its WAN port isn't connected to anything, the correct way to connect a wired client to it is by using its LAN port.
I don't know what would happen if you were to connect a wired client to its WAN port instead — it's just not supposed to be used for that purpose. It won't permanently break anything if you were to try it though. If you were, the worst that would occur is that your network would become unresponsive as packets continuously traverse its WAN port in a circular fashion, which might require that you power down your router to reset your whole network.
If you are already using your Express's LAN port and you need another, the way to provide more ports is to purchase an inexpensive ($10 or so) switch. Connect it to the LAN port and as many other pieces of equipment as the switch's available number of ports.
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MI424WR-GEN2 set WAN port to work as LAN
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I have multiple devices and need one more wired port.
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Go to Solution.No. The WAN port cannot be used for LAN connectivity.
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Does the WAN port in client mode on the Airport Express?
On an Airport Express (2012 version, 802.11n), has anyone tried the following configuration? Is the WAN port active in client mode? Do you have any suggestions on this or similar configurations?
I am trying to use Airplay to stream music to two Klipsch G-17 speakers. As I have discovered and also documented by Apple on their web page http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4587 in the section
"Connecting to an existing Wi-Fi network as part of a legacy WDS or Extended Network", this is true "Due to the overhead required for this configuration, you may expect AirPlay drop-outs such as intermittent loss of audio."
Configuration now:
All Airport Expresses are the 2012 802.11n version with a LAN and a WAN port.
There is one Airport Express in a home basement. It is connected to an Internet connection. This Internet connection goes into this home basement.
There is a second Airport Express on the second floor of this home.
Now, both Airport Expresses connect fine with the "extend network" option. There is wifi coverage throughout this home. All works fine until Airplay is used to stream music to these two Klipsch G-17 speakers. There are intermittent and persistent pauses. I am experiencing the what Apple documented in this kb article. I am not able to connect the two Airport Expresses with an ethernet cable. I cannot run a cable from the basement to the second floor.
Has anyone tried this following configuration? Or is there a different configuration that would work, and if so, could you provide the configuration details?
1. Connect the first Airport Express via client mode to the second, second floor Airport Express.
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I need to buy an ethernet switch for the Aiport Express to handle both the iPad wirelessly and the wired iMac. Does the switch have to have a WAN port or can I buy one with five LAN ports?
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Sorry, but no.
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