Language translations from Indesign

I have searched but can not find the answer.
What is the best way to give a customer a file to translate into another language? I am using CS2 with an upgrade on the way. The document is 800+- pages and contains over 1200 images, many text frames, and another 40 excel files that are not linked into the document.
I have supplied a PDF to which the customer complained for obvious reasons.

Yeesh, I don't even know where to start. If I were asked to manage a translation of your document (I'm not a translator, but a language-industry DTP/production wonk), I would ask for the whole document, with all linked images, Excel files, et cetera. If it's too large to FTP, burn it to disc and next-day it.
I would expect that, in order to understand the source text correctly, that the translation team would need at least some of the images. A translation team that was willing to work on such a project without all of the context is almost certain to be misunderstanding
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in your source text.
Translation teams rarely work directly in ID. I usually supply carefully styled RTFs intended for use with translation memory tools, as well as a PDF of the final InDesign file in the source language.
If you have a regular arrangement with a translation supplier, and said supplier already has a project glossary and is extremely familiar with your organization, then the XML route suggested by Trevski above can be pretty safe. If you're working with a supplier for the first time, then it's a safe bet that you don't have a bilingual project glossary. I would be reluctant to advise this method unless you were doing a really thorough in-house linguistic review.

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