Large number of http posts navigating between forms

Hi,
i'm not really a forms person (well not since v3/4 running character mode on a mainframe!), so please be patient if I'm not providing the most useful information.
An oracle forms 10 system that I have fallen into supporting has to me very poor performance in doing simple things like navigating between forms/tabs.
Looking at the java console (Running Sun JRE 1.6.0_17), and turning on network tracing, I can see a much larger number of post requests than I would expect (I looked here first as initially we had an issue with every request going via a proxy server, and I wondered if we had lost the bypass proxy setting). Only a normal number of GETS though.
Moving to one particualr detail form from a master record is generating over 300 post requests - I'v confirmed this looking at the Apache logs on the server. This is the worst one I have found, but in general the application appears to be extremely 'chatty'
The only other system I work with which uses forms doesn't generate anything like these numbers of requests, which makes me think this isn't normal (As well as the fact this particular form is very slow to open)
This is a third party application, so i don't have access to the source unfortunately.
Is there anything we should look at in our setup, or is this likely to be an application coding issue? This app is a recent conversion from a forms 6 client server application (Which itself ran ok, at least this bit of the application did with no delays in navigation between screens).
I'm happy to go back to the supplier, but it might help if I can point them into some specific directions, plus i'd like to know what's going on too!
Regards,
Carl

Sounds odd. 300 Requests is by far too much. As it was a C/S application: did they do anything else except the recompile on 10g? Moving from C/S to 10g webforms seems to be easy as you just need to recompile but in fact it isn't. There are many things which didn't matter in a C/S environment but have disastrous effects once the form is deployed over the web. The synchronize built in for example. In C/S calls to synchronize wasn't that bad; But when you are using web deployed forms...each call to synchronize is a roundtrip. The usage of timers is also best kept on a low level in webforms for example.
A good starting point for the whole do's and dont's when moving forms to the web is the forms upgrade center:
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/developer-tools/forms/index-095046.html
If you don't have the source code available that's unfortune; but if you want to know what's happening behind the scenes there is the possibility to trace a forms session:
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B14099_19/web.1012/b14032/tracing002.htm#i1035515
maybe this sheds some light upon what's going on.
cheers

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4, 6: No to both questions. You can create the form in Acrobat. Such forms are knows as Acroforms, as opposed to XFA forms that are created with LiveCycle Designer. Acroforms have wider support.
5: Yes, that's the method that's used when submitting to a web server. You have your choice of formats. The "HTML Form" option causes the form data to be submitted in the same format as an HTML form, so the same type of server-side code can be used to process the data. As Dave's tutorial shows, the server should return an FDF as the response, however, as opposed to HTML content.
It's a mistake to try to embed the PDF in a web page. So much depends on the user's browser, PDF viewer, and how both are configured. PDF forms can be submitted directly from Adobe Reader/Acrobat, so it's not necessary for them to be viewed in a browser. Note that Adobe Reader for iOS/Android don't yet support submitting to a web server (apart from FormsCentral), but that's is supposedly being worked on.
Since you mentioned digital signatures, be aware that for Reader users to be able to sign, the document has to be Reader-enabled, either with Acrobat Pro or LiveCycle Reader Extensions (which is not the same as LiveCycle Designer). Digital signatures in PDF forms are not yet supported on mobile devices. Also, you will want to submit the entire PDF, as opposed to just the form data, when submitting a digitally signed form.

Render html form & send forms's input values as params via HTTP POST

Hello,
I'm using appache commons http client to send HTTP post queries to a given url and receive HTTP response then process it.
one of the requirements of my Application is the following: one of these HTTP Post requests is supposed to return an HTML form with different html types (text filed, text area etc..) that i will need to display in my swing application. one important requirement is that i can't know in advance what the html form field types will be.. it depends on a given parameters that my application send as part of HTTP Post method (using apache http client).
I Longly searched for a simple solution to this problem . There are many solutions but each one has it's limitations :
1-i can render the html form inside a JEditorPane .but how can I collect the user entered data inside JEditorPane ? i'm not sure this swing component offers the capability to detect its html contents and more it will be difficult to know what are the values entered by user inside html form rendered by JEditorPane.
2-are there any Java Embedded browsers that offer some API to enable me detect the html form fields ,capture the data entered by user inside the html form ?
3-the solution i currently opted for is : parse html & convert html form to swing dialog. currently this solution i use works well but the cost of implementing it is high : it involves difficult parsing logic. this makes me worried .I'm not sure if i'm now using the right & easiest solution.
I need some advice on What is the simplest and clean solution to render a html form & yet be able to collect user entered inputs & send the user input values as params via java HTTP POST request ?

dragzul wrote:
In my opinion, your actual solution is what you need to do. You're trying to "merge" two different kinds of view. Actually, the "easiest" way may be: if you have your data to display, you decide to show it on html or swing.Yes i believe that my current solution may be the unique one for my special requirements. when doing research about this problem i found a multitude of java libraries to convert xml to swing (ex: www.swixml.org) .However i was surprised there are no java libraries to convert HTML forms to swing dialogs -as far as i know-. this is a bit strange. The Limitation is that the developers of the server API are not Java guys and are reluctant to use an xml format that i can easily convert to swing . probably they have their own reasons as they might be using the HTML Response for some other server side work. So I was obliged to deal with an HTML stream that i need to display in my client application and process its data. in my opinion the only way to do this is by developing a HTML form to swing converter package. that's what i did now. i was only worried if i'm complicating things and if there are some easier solutions to this issue.
thanks

Submit Form data by Http Post

hi,
i created a pdf form in livecycle designer with certain fields and want to submit the data filled in the form to a java servlet in HTTP POST Manner...
can any1 please tell how to capture the posted data from pdf to java servlet??
i am looking for code in java which will capture the HTTP POST data ...
moreover, if in the servlet , is it valid to write request.getParameter("FirstName") where FirstName being a field in the PDF??
please help ASAP....thanx in advance

Toby,
Look at <CFHTTP>
http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/8/htmldocs/Tags_g-h_09.html#3989287
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Fill a Google form with http POST VI

Dear LabVIEW forum,
I am trying to fill a very simple Google form consisting in 4 text fields named AI0, AI1, AI2 and AI3.
I use the http POST VI provided by LabVIEW:
When I execute this, a new line is added to the response spreadsheet, but the values don't appear, except for the timestamp.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks!
LabVIEW 2013 SP1
Windows 7 64bit
Windows Server 2012 64 bit
Windows 8.1 32 bit
Solved!
Go to Solution.

Hi
I had a quick look at the form and the text next to the input boxes is AI0 ... but the names of the input text boxes are not AI0 etc. You may have to get the page first and then parse the page for the name of the entry.
<input type="text" name="entry.2117155241" value="" class="ss-q-short" id="entry_2117155241" dir="auto" title="">
Mike

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