Latency between multiple outputs

Goal: backing tracks in output 1-2, backing tracks and click in output 3-4
Notes: click track is it's own playback aif due to tempo changes in the songs. Hitting play triggers both the backing tracks and separate click track simultaneously. I have one backing track sent to Output 1-2, then used an aux bus to also send the same signal to Output 3-4 (with the click track set to output 3-4.
Issue: there is an unacceptable latency issue between outputs 1-2 (the PA) and 3-4 (my headphones with the click). When I play to my ears, I'm way off the main outputs.
Gear: MacBook Pro 10.5.8, Mainstage 2.1.1, Kontrol-1 interface (2 stereo outs, and headphone jack that can monitor either of them.
Troubleshooting ideas: is there a better way to duplicate the playback on outputs 1-2-3-4 without using a bus?
Thanks. My show is in a week so I need to resolve this quickly!

Do you have separate sets of plugins on the 1-2, 3-4 output tracks or are there plugins used in the Aux bus?
I would just make a copy of the backing track and send it directly to outputs 3-4. It can be a virtual (Option-Drag) copy using no more resources than a single track.
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-i have all my channels go through auxes, in all projects, but i did attempt to route audio straight off the channels and encountered the same situation i described above.
-plug-in latency is likely set to ALL at all times, since i often track while in the 'mixing stage'. this is how i've always done everything.
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