LCD Gap

Hello,
I just got a 20" Apple Cinema Display and it looks amazing.
However, I have a question.
I noticed that inside the silver bevel there is a thin black gap between the silver edge and "Viewable" area. This gap is uniform on both sides (About a millimeter or so) but is not uniform on the top and bottom. The gap is about 2 millimeters on the bottom and about half a millimeter on the top.
Is this normal? Is the LCD supposed to be slightly "high" in the housing?
Basically the gap below the dock is larger than that above the system bar.
Has anyone else noticed this?

The one in our lab (23") is not symetric. I guess this is normal manufacturing tolerance. I never noticed before. It doesn't really bother me. The screen is perfectly rectangular and not cut off by the frame. That's all I really care about.

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