LCD TV vs LCD Monitor

What is the difference, pros/cons of buying a LCD TV and running your computer though it....vs a LCD Monitor?
Thanks!

TV Pros:
1. You can watch TV without having to buy a TV input device for the computer.
2. Cheaper for the same size (but not necessarily for the same number of pixels).
3. Built-in speakers.
TV Cons:
1. Pixels are larger. 23" computer monitor is 1920 X 1200 A TV with that resolution is 36". If it is on your desk you would be much too close, and would see all the pixels instead of the text.
2. With some TVs the pixels are not square. This will cause distortion of computer images, or if the TV scales to compensate, will blur the picture.
3. Some TVs do not match the digital input pixels directly to the screen pictures, resulting in blur.
4. Some TVs have over-scan, even using digital input. Losing a bit at the top and bottom can mean losing the menu bar and dock.
5. You can't record the TV onto the computer (unless you buy a TV input device).
6. No tilt stand.
7. For plasma TVs, burn-in is a problem.
8. Commercials
9. Some wide screen TV only use a 4 X 3 part of the screen for computer input.
10. Some TVs will not accept non-interlaced input at some resolutions.

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If you choose that.
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Hi Candace
You may want to check out this link http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/2/129823.html
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While it might be fine for corporate video or other non-broadcast work, it won't be appropriate for broadcast work. For that you need to buy a broadcast monitor.
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But equally important and often overlooked is how you monitor audio. For that I'd recommend a decent pair of studio reference or near-field monitors connected to the analog audio outputs of your DV device.
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Rick - If you want to go the BlackMagic way (their cheaper non-pro $250 card will do), you can get a computer monitor that also has HDMI.
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Firstly I really don't know much about LCD TV's, Monitors etc...
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http://www.bresink.com/osx/HardwareMonitor.html
...supports certain external, USB-based LCD displays for providing system status. Is anyone using one?
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blakespot

Sadly none of the above unit will work w/ Hardware Monitor.
I just received this email from the author after inquiring about the above displays compatibility w/ Hardware Monitor:
Unfortunately, these vendors are completely unknown in Europe and
they only offer drivers for Windows, so no support for these modules
is possible so far.
If not, is there a ready-made, external (already in a little
enclosure) unit that does?
No, I am currently not aware of any ready-made units. Unfortunately
the market for these devices seems to be so small that no worldwide
vendor has established an industry standard yet, or could provide
an open software layer for Mac OS X. When such a solution exists, we
will immediately support it in Hardware Monitor.
For more information about LCD unit support please see the chapter
"Controlling external alphanumeric displays" in the reference manual
of Hardware Monitor.
blakespot

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