Lease Asset Flexible Interest Rate Scenario

Hi everyone
Cna please anyone guide me whether is it possible if i change the interest rate of lease assets system will automatically recalculate the instalment amount on the basis of that change interest rate. I am trying to that but the system only adjust the recalculate the interest and depreciation but does not change the instalment amount which i am giving to vendor.
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Aurangzeb Khan

Which module you are using to manage lease assets?
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Hi Gurus,
Thanks in advance
I need Lease Assets Management in SAP configuration documents.
If any body have please send me on following mail ID : [email protected]
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Hi deepika.... the following notes may useful to u ..
The "Leased Assets" scenario describes the management of leased assets from the standpoint of the lessee.
Leased assets create special accounting requirements for the lessee, as compared to assets that an enterprise purchases or produces itself. During the term of the lease, leased assets remain the property of the lessor or manufacturer. They represent, therefore, a special form of rented asset. Such assets are legally and from a tax perspective the responsibility of the lessor, and are not relevant for assessing the value of the asset portfolio of the lessee. However, in certain countries, you are nonetheless required to capitalize leased assets, depending on the type of financing.
This scenario makes it possible to handle different types of leased assets differently. Depending on legal restrictions, you can capitalize and depreciate leased assets (capital lease) or post their rent expense periodically to the profit and loss statement (operating lease).
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You have to capitalize and depreciate certain leased assets (capital lease).
You treat others as periodic rent expense, which flows into the profit and loss statement (operating lease).
This second type is not relevant to the fixed assets of the lessee. It is therefore sufficient to do one of the following:
Manage operating leases as statistical assets in the Asset Accounting component (with no active depreciation areas)
Manage them only as cost-accounting values (or for group accounting) in the corresponding depreciation areas
There is a special report on rent liability that can be used for all types of leased assets (see below).
You can also manage insurance values for purely statistical leased assets (without depreciation areas). You enter a manual insurance value and an index series for the leased assets in the asset master record. You obtain reports on these values using the standard report for insurance values.
Capital Lease Method
Leased assets can be capitalized in the Asset Accounting component using the capital lease method. The system calculates the acquisition value from the present value of the future lease payments in the leasing agreement. To be able to determine the future burden of payment, you need to maintain the following leasing conditions in the asset master records:
Amount of lease payment
Number of payments
Payment cycle
In order to calculate present value, also enter an interest rate. The system requires that you post a leasing partner as a vendor in the asset master record at the time of the acquisition posting (opening posting).
Periodic Posting
The depreciation posting program posts the depreciation of leased assets and the write-off of the interest. You can use any depreciation key. The standard R/3 System includes a special depreciation key, in which the depreciation amounts correspond to the present value of the periodic leasing payments (LEAS). Using this key, interest is determined as the difference between the leasing payments and the present value.
Calculation of Present Value
The present value of the leased asset is calculated on the basis of the following specifications:
g : Amount of lease payment
i : Annual interest rate
n : Number of lease payments
r: Leasing cycle (for example, 3 = quarterly, 6 = semiannual)
m : Number of periods in a year
q : Period interest factor = 1 + ( i / 100 * r / m)
If payment is made at the beginning of the period, the present value then results from the following formula:
Present value = g + g * q** (n-1) - 1 / (q**n-1 * (q - 1))
With payment at the end of the payment period, on the other hand, the present value is calculated as follows:
Present value = g * ( q*n - 1) / ( q*n * ( q - 1))
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g : 100
i: 10.000 %
n: 20
r: 3
m: 12
q: 1 + (10.000 / 100 * 3 / 12) = 1.025
Present value at the beginning of the payment period:
100 + 100 * (1.025*19 - 1) / (1.025*19 * (1.025 - 1)) = 1597.89
Present value at the end of the payment period:
100 * (1.025*20 - 1) / (1.025*20 * ( 1.025 - 1)) = 1558.92
Reports
There is a standard report in the system for determining future leasing liability (especially in regard to leased assets that are not capitalized). The report displays for each leased asset:
The payments already made
The payments due up to the date of the report
The total lease payments to be made for the asset
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Start date of the lease
Payment information (lease payment amount, payment cycle, number of payments)
Leasing type
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Implementation Considerations
General Tips
If you want to manage capitalized leased assets in the system, follow these steps:
Define leasing types in Customizing for Asset Accounting with the specifications for posting asset acquisitions.
Create special asset classes and account allocations for your leased assets.
Define depreciation areas, in which you plan to capitalize leased assets using the capital lease procedure, so that they manage interest that can be posted with the depreciation posting program.
Activate the depreciation areas, in which the leased assets will be capitalized and depreciated, in these asset classes.
Assign a leasing type to the asset master records for leased assets.
Maintain the information and conditions of the leasing agreement in the master records of the leased assets. Specify an interest rate for calculating the present value and determine whether the lease payments should be made at the beginning of the payment period or at the end of the payment period.
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You have received a new leased asset (goods receipt).
You need to change the way bookkeeping is handled for a leased asset due to a change in the conditions of the lease.
You need to post a leased asset to a new asset master record due to a transfer.
Process Flow
Before posting the acquisition of the leased asset, you must determine the bookkeeping method to be used, either:
Capitalization of the leased asset to fixed assets, with the present value of the future lease payments and depreciation of the present value (capital lease)
Statistical management of the leased asset (no capitalization), and direct posting of the lease payments as rental expense in the profit and loss statement (operating lease)
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