Leopard for Powerbook 17", 1.67GHz G4, 1 GB Memory...

I am thinking of updating to Leopard from Tiger 4.11 on my G4....
What I would like to know is: will it run on this older PowerBook efficiently AND
will I lose the software that is installed on Tiger if I don't have the discs for re-installing them....?

Yes, it will run, but you should really install more RAM as 1 GB is not really adequate even though it exceeds the minimum requirement of 512 MBs.
You do not have to lose any existing software, but you should plan to make a bootable backup of your current system before upgrading. Repair the hard drive and permissions before backup and before installing the upgrade. Plan to use the Archive and Install option:
How to Perform an Archive and Install
An Archive and Install will NOT erase your hard drive, but you must have sufficient free space for a second OS X installation which could be from 3-9 GBs depending upon the version of OS X and selected installation options. The free space requirement is over and above normal free space requirements which should be at least 6-10 GBs. Read all the linked references carefully before proceeding.
1. Be sure to use Disk Utility first to repair the disk before performing the Archive and Install.
Repairing the Hard Drive and Permissions
Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (Utilities menu for Tiger.) After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported, then quit DU and return to the installer.
2. Do not proceed with an Archive and Install if DU reports errors it cannot fix. In that case use Disk Warrior and/or TechTool Pro to repair the hard drive. If neither can repair the drive, then you will have to erase the drive and reinstall from scratch.
3. Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When you reach the screen to select a destination drive click once on the destination drive then click on the Option button. Select the Archive and Install option. You have an option to preserve users and network preferences. Only select this option if you are sure you have no corrupted files in your user accounts. Otherwise leave this option unchecked. Click on the OK button and continue with the OS X Installation.
4. Upon completion of the Archive and Install you will have a Previous System Folder in the root directory. You should retain the PSF until you are sure you do not need to manually transfer any items from the PSF to your newly installed system.
5. After moving any items you want to keep from the PSF you should delete it. You can back it up if you prefer, but you must delete it from the hard drive.
6. You can now download a Combo Updater directly from Apple's download site to update your new system to the desired version as well as install any security or other updates. You can also do this using Software Update.

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Keyboard Issue in Leopard for Powerbook G4

Since a fresh Leopard install, I have been having the following problems: the caps lock and num lock keys do not light up anymore, and the keyboard stops responding intermittently. The only fix I have found is to restart the computer.
I have read about problems like this for MacBooks and MacBook Pros, but not PowerBooks. I also saw that Apple has evidently released a fix for this problem, but only for MB and MBP.
Are any other PowerBook G4 users having this problem?

I'm having the same problem:
PowerBook G4 17"
Step 1: upgrade to Leopard.
Step 2: keyboard stops working. For me it was several keys.
Step 3: Spend $400 getting new keyboard at authorized Apple dealer.
Step 4: Find out that new keyboard stops working after a week or so.
Step 5: Realize that I wasted $400 getting a new keyboard when the problem is with Apple software.
Step 6: Check numerous discussion lists and find this problem everywhere.

What is the correct part number for the LCD inverter board for an A1138 15" powerBook G4 ( 1.67GHz superdrive/ Hi-res)?

What is the correct part number for the LCD inverter board for an A1138 15" PowerBook G4 ( 1.67GHz superdrive/ Hi-res model)?

Hello,
Part number 614-0305-A
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Powerbook G4 1.67GHz 2GB ram ... HUGE performance issues

Hardware:
17" Powerbook G4 1.67GHz with 2GB ram
System:
10.5.4 Leopard
*Ever since i upgraded to Leopard, i have noticed tremendous latency / pinwheel issues in many areas such as:*
1. Switching between running applications hangs up sometimes as long as 15 seconds
2. Video playback in quicktime is choppy
3. Various programs take a tremendous amount of time to open
4. Opening relatively small illustrator and or photoshop files pinwheels for unusually long time
5. Opening finder windows unusually slow
One of the MOST frustrating of all issues:
6. Powerbook heats up rather quickly... gets very hot and the fans have NEVER come on... VERY frustrating, since i would have no problem with noise if it meant better performance...
_*Overall, the entire computer feels VERY sluggish*_
i have tried clean installs, as well as regular maintenance... and upgraded my RAM to the max of 2GB
Is there anything else i can do? Anyone else having similar problems and or know the best way to repair?
DESPERATE for a solution here... while i realize the G4 can only handle so much, i just feel like it cant possibly be this slow under leopard... or can it?!
*ANY HELP AT ALL greatly appreciated...*
Best,
Mike
+Mac user since 1989+

Hi,
Just to chime in, I am running a PB G4 1.67, and I am running Leopard (10.5.4) on it just fine. In fact, I am *more than* pleased with the fantastic performance. I am a very very heavy user (enterprise software developer permanently running 101 things simultaneously on his machine) and I have no problems.
First of all, try to figure out what is chomping performance. Is it CPU? Fire up activity monitor, go to the CPU tab, list "all processes" and order by CPU usage. See if a process is swamping your CPU. Until I let it run overnight to index my 250Gb drive, the Spotlight indexing engine (mds) was eating all my CPU. Thereafter, it's fine. Or you can disable it.
So yeah - let's first figure out what is causing your CPU to over-work (and hence, your machine in general to heat up, they do get hot, especially in hot climates) and work from there. No reason to suspect hardware failure yet...

Good Asking Price for Powerbook G4??

What is a good asking price for my 15" PowerBook G4. It is in great shape with no dents and only two minor scratches on the bottom of the case. It has AppleCare until January 1st 2009. Here are the specs...
1.67ghz PowerPC Processor
1GB DDR2 RAM (1-SODIMM)
100GB 7200RPM Hard Drive
SuperDrive DL
High Resolution Screen (1440x960)
Leopard 10.5.1
I have all the original packaging/accessories. I thought about asking $900, but those who know tech, I just wanted to get your opinion to see if this price was a little high or not?
It will just come with iLife 06 and Pages 06.

If I were a buyer, I'd offer $700 to start. But since this is not eBay or Craigslist, and we're supposed to offer tech support, I'd say you're right at the ballpark.
That could fetch even close to $1100. (I'll buy it from you for $700... ha ha ha).
Go to eBay and search for: PowerBook G4 15 1.67
This will give you an idea of what to price yours, wherever you decide to sell it at. Check the specs differences. Some sell theirs with less or more RAM, some higher speed/capacity drives, etc.

What happened to the Leopard on Powerbooks so far thread ???

What happened to the Leopard on Powerbooks so far thread ???
Where did it go ? Even my post is missing.

Well, I can tell you what happened with my neighbors - a complete and utter disaster. It just won't install. I went so far as to reinstall Panther for her (so she can have a working computer) and then try to archive and install. Failed. There's a post about it in the 10.5 forum/installation and set up. It really *****. I don't know what else to do. She's supposed to pay for a license and now, if she doesn't, I'm left holding one with nowhere to put it. Maybe I can just sell it.
This is not cool for Apple. I don't know what they didn't do right, but it ***** and is very disappointing. It's worse because I'm up and running with it on my MacBook so I feel bad for her.

Upgrade from Panther to Leopard on PowerBook G4

Hi-
I just bought Leopard (for $129 directly from apple) and am interested in knowing the steps I would need to take to upgrade from Panther (10.3.9) on a PowerBook G4 with the following specs:
Machine Model: PowerBook G4 17"
CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (1.1)
Number Of CPUs: 1
CPU Speed: 1.5 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
Memory: 512 MB
Bus Speed: 167 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 4.8.4f1
I have 11 GB of disk space available.
Do I have the correct system requirements to make this transition seamlessly? Anything else I need to get?
Thanks!

What's the difference between getting an external hard drive vs. the card? I'll definitely go with 160GB to be on the safe side.
See my reply in your other thread.
I keep reading that Archive&Install is giving people problems. Given my situation, would you recommend Upgrade or Archive&Install or Erase& Install?
I'm running Tiger and did not know that A&I was giving people problems on Leopard. If that's the case, I would definitely do the Upgrade (if that is an option like it has been on previous OSX installers).
My main thing is that I'm going to need to keep Office 2004 (which I learned should work on Leopard).
Given that, use the Upgrade method.
Unless... this may sound silly, but can I save it on disks or something? (I don't have the original install disks anymore).
That's not silly at all, and with some applications it will work. I do not know if that's the case with Office, but I would recommend against it. OSX often needs to "weave" parts of an app into itself via the installation, and copying the actual app will not do that. If you have a disk image of the installation disc, that's a different story, and it will copy/work fine.
Also, when I do the backup (via Super Duper?), where does all the stuff end up living? If it's on my hard drive, doesn't that get taken away when I replace it with the newer/bigger one?
I use SD and think it's the best cloning app out there. You need to save it on an external source, otherwise you're correct, it's still "living" on your PB's HD, and if you erase that HD or something happens to it, all that data is gone.
In your situation, I would consider either an external HD or an enclosure. With an external, you'll be able to use if for backups, which would be a very good idea if you value your data. 300GB and even larger can be found for under $100. I'd recommend a FireWire model, so you can then boot your PB from it if you want/need to.
If money is an issue and you choose not to backup (a bad idea, as all HDs eventually die), you may get an external enclosure. Install the new HD in it, SD/clone your PB's internal HD to it, install the new HD in your PB, and you're good to go. 2.5" enclosures can be purchased for under $10.

The max. OS X system for Powerbook G4 is 10.5?

just got to know via wikipedia, that for powerbook G4, the max. software could be 10.5;
mine is 12'' powerbook G4 running 10.4.11 at this moment; any possibility to upgrade the system, so I can use iCloud?

iCloud Requirements http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4759
Leopard 10.5 is the max OS for PowerPC processor Macs. To go highre, you need a Mac with an Intel processor.
 Cheers, Tom

What OSX does suit better for PowerBook G4 17"?

I have 2 partitions, both as StartUp Disks with Leopard 10.5.8 OSX.
Can you please tell me what OSX is better for my Mac? Leopard or Tiger?
I never tried the last, 'cos I bought this laptop a second-hand with Leopard on it already.
So, I'd like to know more what of the OS is better for Powerbook G4 (concerning productivity, speed,usability etc.)?
Here's my Hard Ware Overview:
Hardware Overview:
      Model Name: PowerBook G4 17"
      Model Identifier: PowerBook5,9
      Processor Name: PowerPC G4 (1.5)
      Processor Speed: 1.67 GHz
      Number Of CPUs: 1
      L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
      Memory: 2 GB
      Bus Speed: 167 MHz
      Boot ROM Version: 4.9.5f3
      Serial Number (system): W8******SX0
      Hardware UUID: 00000000-0000-1000-8000-00145122650A
      Sudden Motion Sensor:
          State: Enabled
I'm asking, 'cos sometimes (especially now) the System really slow! Even writing this text is no really easy task to do!
Productivity of the laptop harshly decreases! Launching applications, opening windows, writing text, opening tabs in a browser etc.
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Make sure you use a 10.5.6 retail or older 10.5.4, 10.5.1, or 10.5.0 retail if installing 10.5.
Note that Mac will not boot into 9, and will lose access to Classic under the Mac OS X 10.5 boot. For more on updating to 10.5 including the retail disc description, see this tip:
https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-2275

Leopard + g4 powerbook

hey team: just looking at a mate's computer
PowerBook G4
1.33GHz PowerPC
1.25GB RAM
Leopard 10.5.8
This machine has been running Leopard for a few months but has recently acquired an interesting idiosyncrasy, which is, seemingly at random, the Spinning Beach Ball of DOOM will appear and freeze the machine. I cannot seem to figure out what is causing this. I've looked at the minimum requirements for Leopard, and this G4 lappy has enough juice for it.
So I'm guessing hardware... Does anyone else have experience with Leopard on a G4 PowerBook...? Anyone experience this issue?
cheers
P

See http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/sbbod.html for starters.

I've got tiger and I want to buy snow leopard for it. should I do it or buy leopard instead?

I've got tiger and I want to buy snow leopard for it. should I do it or buy leopard instead?

The only operating system you can upgrade to is OS X 10.5 Leopard. Snow Leopard requires an Intel processor, which the Powerbooks don't have. I confirmed the other day that you can still buy Leopard from the US online Apple store at 800-MY-APPLE.
Before you update, be sure you download any updates to non-Apple software that may be needed to run under Leopard.

My PowerBook 17"/1.67Ghz died ...

Hello everyone,
I have purchased a new PowerBook 17"/1,67Ghz on March 2005
at an Apple Retail Store here in Germany (www.cyberport.de).
My PowerBook just died two weeks ago after I have made a clean installation of MacOS X 10.4.3. (MacOS X 10.4 installation from the DVD + Combo Updater 10.4.3). After a restart my PowerBook just died completely.
- Entire black screen
- No reactions at all on keyboard strokes and trackpad input
- The battery did no longer charge at all. Only the first
LED did blink on the battery. (Low battery). Strange even though the power adapter was pluged-in for the entire day.
- The PowerBook did not start at all without the power adapter.
- When I tried to restart my PowerBook with the power adapter pluged-in, the internal fans started to blow at full speed.
- No startup sound, only a black screen and the blowing fans running at max. speed
- No possibility to reset the PRAM
- No possibility to restart from a CD
- No power-adapter, no reactions at all
- I have noticed that my PowerBook was quite hot after I have noticed the black screen after a self-restart.
I have called the technical support at my Apple Retail Store here in Germany (www.cyberport.de). The technical support team told me that the logic-board might me damaged.
Since my one-year-garanty is still valid, I have sent my
damaged Apple !7" PowerBook back to my Apple Retail Store (www.cyberport.de).
This is two weeks ago now. I called the Apple Retail Store today. They informed me that they are still waiting for the main logic board from Apple. Last week, however, they told me that the logic board should arrive on Thuesday last week.
So, I assume this hardware failure is going to cost me another precious week.
I am wondering. Has anyone else made similar bad experiences with an Apple 17" PowerBook 1.6Ghz?
Another question I have. During the last months I have noticed a really high and annoying sizzle tone each time I have installed software on my PowerBook or copied some files over the internal LAN. Has anyone else here on this discussion board noticed similar negative side effects?
graphically & sincerely,
Marc Klein
Pixel:Industries
Apple PowerBook 17"/1.67Ghz Mac OS X (10.4.3)

Welcome to Apple Discussions!
Logic board issues are not frequent, but they do happen. Somethings you can do to prevent them I've listed on this User Tip:
http://discussions.apple.com/click.jspa?searchID=-1&messageID=607445
While it was written to address iBooks, many of the items apply to Powerbooks too. In addition many people find Powerbooks don't get their fans going off as frequently, if they let air circulate underneath. A clean dry metal cookie tray is a good way to do this. There are also many accessories you can buy to either cool by fan ventilation or just simple raising the computer on a podium. I had an iCurve though, and its rubber pads wore away. So I'd get something else if you decide to get something.

Microsoft Office 2004 (Word) unable to save files I have been running Office 2004 on my Intel iMac with Snow Leopard for some time and all of a sudden I cannot save a document. Word just stopped responding and I have to force quit. I can open Word and cr

Microsoft Office 2004 (Word) unable to save files
I have been running Office 2004 on my Intel iMac with Snow Leopard for some time and all of a sudden I cannot save a document. Word just stopped responding and I have to force quit. I can open Word and create a new document but I cannot save it. I reinstalled Word but that didn’t help. Then went to the Internet and found at least one other Mac user having the same problem which it suggests is caused by a recent Mac Security Update:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/mac/forum/macoffice2004-macword/word-2004-wil l-not-open-or-save-documents/b04eb870-9b0d-4f3b-bb47-b122301e36f6
So I check for a new Mac Security Update and sure enough there was one. I downloaded it and now Word seems to be working, as it should. I can both open and save files. The only problem remaining is that when I open Word I get the following error message “An unexpected error occurred while trying to load the Microsoft Framework library”. I contacted Apple but they were unable to help.
How can I get rid of this error message?

Look, I realize you might have to get your machine working, so this is how you revert back.
Restore proceedure to pre-Security Update 2012-001 v 1.0 & v 1.1
#1 Backup your personal data off the machine.
Backup files off the computer (not to TimeMachine). If you don't have a external drive, get one and connect to the USB/Firewire port and simply drag and drop copy your User folder to the external drive, it will copy all your files. It's best to have two backups of your data off the machine when trying to restore.
Disconnect all drives now to prevent any mistakes from occuring.
#2 Reinstall OS X 10.6 from disk
Get out your 10.6 install disk and make sure it's clean and polished (very soft cloth and a bit of rubbing alcohol, no scratches) If your disk is borked, you'll have to order a new one from Apple with your serial number.
Hold c boot off the 10.6 disk (wired keyboard, internal optical drive), use Disk Utility First Aid to >Repair Disk of your internal drive (do not format or erase!!), Quit DU and simply re-install 10.6.
Note: Simply reinstalling 10.6 version from disk (without erasing the drive) only replaces 10.6.8 with 10.6.x and bundled Apple programs, won't touch your files (backup anyway) or most programs, unless they installed a kext file into OS X itself. (only a few on average do this)
#3 Update to 10.6.8 without Security Update 2012-001 v1.0 or v1.1
Reboot and log in, update to 10.6.8 via Software Update, but EXCLUDE THE Security Update 2012-001 by checkinig the details and unchecking the blue check box.
#4 Reinstall any non-working third party programs
When you reboot, make sure to reinstall any programs that require kext files installed into OS X, you'll know, they won't work when you launch them or hang for some reason as they are missing the part they installed into OS X.
If for some freakish reason you get gray screen at any time when booting (possible it might occur when you reinstall older programs), hold the shift key down while booting (Safe Mode, disables kext files) and update your installed third party software so it's compatible with 10.6.8.
https://support.apple.com/kb/TS2570
That's it really.

Do I have to get a hard copy of Snow Leopard for my iMac if I already have it for my MacBook?

I have Leopard on my iMac, and Snow Leopard on my MacBook (both with all available updates)~I tried to use the Snow Leopard Install DVD from the MacBook to upgrade the iMac, but it said "Mac OS X 10.6 cannot be installed on this computer." Why??? Do I have to get a hard copy of Snow Leopard for my iMac? Are there different upgrades for the iMac vs. MacBook?
I think I understand that once I have both computers on Snow Leopard, the Lion upgrade would be ONE upgrade for BOTH computers {I'm guessing I would need the client version for at home use}. Also, once Lion was on one computer, would I just go into the Mac App store on the other one and download the upgrade on the other one? But no additional fee would be charged? Lastly, I read about the combo option that includes all updates to Lion since it's release~would that be the main Lion upgrade on the Mac App or would I have to search for it?
Thanks for your help!

The disc you used would have been the install disc that came with your Mac. These can only be used on that as they are made for that specific model.
Make sure your machine meets requirements
Macs with an Intel Core 2 Duo, Intel Core i3, Intel Core i5, Intel Core i7, or Xeon processor.)
At least 2GB of RAM
Mac OS X 10.6.6 or later (Mac OS X 10.6.8 is recommended)
7 GB of free hard drive space is recommended
Once you've purchased it would be a good idea to create a bootable DVD or USB
http://www.macworld.com/article/161069/2011/07/make_a_bootable_lion_installer.ht ml
But you can also go into the purchased section and download again

Why does mountain lion "bunch up" all my microsoft office documents that I have open when I hit f3? When I had snow leopard for example, if i had 4 or 5 different microsoft office documents open at the same time I could hit f3 and easily pick one of them

Why does mountain lion "bunch up" all my microsoft office documents that I have open when I hit f3? When I had snow leopard for example, if i had 4 or 5 different microsoft office documents open at the same time I could hit f3 and easily pick one of them.
Notice how in the photo, I can't identify which MS office document I would like to switch too. Perhaps since the Dashboard and Desktop windows are at the top of my screen now Apple doesn't let you have all the applications take up the full screen and be sized individually so that you can have a better idea on what to pick.
I like the idea of grouping to an extent... If you have a bunch of random things it was hard for me to decifer between what was safari, chrome, or word. But now that they grouped them like this, if you have multiple pages of one program running, you can't switch between those pages easily like before.

If I wanted to open any of my Applework documents I had to open them one at a time and resave them with pages. This could take weeks.I have 1000s of apple work documents.
You don't have to open and re-save every AppleWorks document you have right now. Just wait till you need one, then do it. The documents aren't going anywhere.
Am I dealing with Microsoft? This was a BIG surprise to me that Apple would release an OS without testing all programs.
Frankly, it is not Apple's responsibility to ensure compatibiltiy with every piece of software available for OS X. That is the responsibility of the software vendor. Lion has been available to developers for several months before it's release, so Microtek had plenty of time to update their software. Yet they did not. How is that Apple's fault? I think Apple was very generous to give you a refund for Lion.
I'm not trying to belittle your frustration but I do think your ire is misplaced.

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