Lightroom Profiles Question

When I open the print module not all of my profiles show up.
I created a custom profile for zerox color printer, it does not show up under
Print job - Color management - profiles - Other. Is there a way to make it show up.
Shawn

Epson profiles Kodak,and others but not the new profile. My guess is that Lightroom see it as a Monitor profile not a printer profile. I was wondering if it could be changed as a printer profile. or if there was some way to see if it was built as a monitor profile.
Shawn

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Lightroom 3 question

I imported a number of images taken from products but need to remove the background, Photoshop does not show in the ''open in other application'' for Editing purposes, do I need to get photoshop or can I still do it with Lightroom 3 or do I need to update my Lightroom to the latest version?? Thanks in advance, Cheers, James.

Hi There, and thanks for the answer! I don't have Photoshop the only thing I have is Light room, can Lightroom do this task or do I have to purchase Photoshop ?? And by the way, if Lightroom can't do that what for to have Lightroom anyway, I would think that Photoshop can do everything that Lightroom can - or am I missing something?
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If you already had photoshop, when you installed lightroom, it should have found photoshop for you. Is it possible the psd file association is not set for photoshop? That can happen if you uninstall a previous version of photoshop with a newer version still on your system.
Check the file association in both the OS's file browser (explorer or finder) and in bridge.
Failing all of that, lightroom should have a third option that will allow you to browse to a image editor of your choice.
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Color Profile Question

I recently purchased a new PC and have been working from it for about a month or so without any issues. My client sent me an email saying that her images were appearing muted on her computer screen prior to printing them off of a few common photo labs. I looked into it and tried it myself and it was indeed correct. All of the images edited on my new PC were muted...my first instinct was that it was the color profile. I converted the image to sRGB and it fixed the problem. Now comes the problem....my photos are saving under the wrong color profile. How do I prevent this from happening so that all my images are automatically saved the my preference of color profile. I hope this makes sense because my mind is spinning from trying to figure this out! Thanks in advance!

audi454 wrote:
1. AdobeRGB
2. Im not sure what you mean, preferences in PSE?
3. My client has a print release, I use WHCC to print my pictures and I believe they require sRGB as well.
4. Yes I always shoot in RAW.
Thanks for taking the time to help, I looked at my Lightroom color settings since that's how I import my pics and it was set on Adobe Pro I believe... I changed it to sRGB.
Sent from my iPhone
Thanks for the info : I'll start with the 4th question because it's the less known factor with Elements
If you shoot raw, the settings of your camera (Adobe RGB) will be ignored. This setting works only with the out of camera jpegs. A 'raw' file has no color profile, so PSE needs to know which profile you want for the conversion. You won't find any menu or dialog entries in ACR for that purpose. So, to convert the file when you 'Open' in the editor, PSE looks at the settings in your editor (my question #2, Menu Edit/Color settings...
If you have chosen option 1, 'Always optimize for computer screens', PSE will convert the raw file to sRGB profile.
If you have chosen 'Always optimize for printing', PSE will convert to aRGB...
If you want to take advantage of the slightly wider color space of Adobe RGB because your home printer can use it, select the second option, but if you have to send the picture in sRGB, do not forget to convert before sending. Menu /image/convert color profile.
If you don't want to bother, use sRGB with the option 1. You won't risk forgetting to convert the client version.
Never use 'No color management' in the menu /edit/color settings
If you first convert to sRGB with option 1, you won't get any advantage to convert to aRGB afterwards

Odd color shift and OS color profile question

I've run into something that leads me to believe that the OS X color profile management has caused me a problem. I'd like to figure out how to tell the OS to not manage color profiles in order to avoid future problems. So far this is only an issue when dealing with CMYK images.
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I received a JPEG image from a photographer. Converted it to CMYK and made minor edits in Photoshop, not touching the color profiles or trying to color correct. I saved a JPEG of the edited image, and imported it into Freehand 10. When imported, the entire image shifted slightly pink. When viewed in Preview or Photoshop it looked fine. It was only when I imported it that it shifted.
A friend suggested this might have something to with color profiles, so I fiddled around with both PS and FH to make sure they were using the same ones. Even when they were the image shifted pink. This was on my desktop machine, recently upgraded to Tiger.
I noticed my PowerBook was still running Panther. I took the same image, same data file, same programs and when I imported the image again, it was fine. Looked just like it did in PhotoShop and Preview. I immediately saved out a PDF for posterity and press use.
Given the above, the only real variable is the version of the OS. This leads me to believe that there's something about how Tiger handles color profiles on the OS level that's causing this shift. What I don't know is how to remove the OS' meddling to remove it from the workflow.
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audi454 wrote:
1. AdobeRGB
2. Im not sure what you mean, preferences in PSE?
3. My client has a print release, I use WHCC to print my pictures and I believe they require sRGB as well.
4. Yes I always shoot in RAW.
Thanks for taking the time to help, I looked at my Lightroom color settings since that's how I import my pics and it was set on Adobe Pro I believe... I changed it to sRGB.
Sent from my iPhone
Thanks for the info : I'll start with the 4th question because it's the less known factor with Elements
If you shoot raw, the settings of your camera (Adobe RGB) will be ignored. This setting works only with the out of camera jpegs. A 'raw' file has no color profile, so PSE needs to know which profile you want for the conversion. You won't find any menu or dialog entries in ACR for that purpose. So, to convert the file when you 'Open' in the editor, PSE looks at the settings in your editor (my question #2, Menu Edit/Color settings...
If you have chosen option 1, 'Always optimize for computer screens', PSE will convert the raw file to sRGB profile.
If you have chosen 'Always optimize for printing', PSE will convert to aRGB...
If you want to take advantage of the slightly wider color space of Adobe RGB because your home printer can use it, select the second option, but if you have to send the picture in sRGB, do not forget to convert before sending. Menu /image/convert color profile.
If you don't want to bother, use sRGB with the option 1. You won't risk forgetting to convert the client version.
Never use 'No color management' in the menu /edit/color settings
If you first convert to sRGB with option 1, you won't get any advantage to convert to aRGB afterwards

LR Profiles question

Under the bottom right panel "Camera Calibration" there is drop down menu called "profiles". In that drop down there are numerous profiiles: ACR 4.4, ACR 4.3, Adobe Standard, Camera D2X Mode 1 (what the does that stand for?), and many others. I have a Nikon D3. I'm wondering why my camera profiile is not in there. Do I somehow have to enter it? I thought the profiles were automatically updated to include all the newest cameras?

There is extensive information on DNG profiles available here: http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles:FAQ
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Now in my case what I sometimes could do with is getting a IP profile unstuck ie when it passed the point where it should have changed but has not and yes the BT system says that it did.
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[the reason for asking is that normally my profile should go up within 24 hours at most which is bearable but recently it has stuck twice, ie BT says 1000 but speedtester and throughput showed 750].
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Lightroom Profiles for Lumix GX7?

I'm trying out various programs for RAW processing using my new Lumix GX7. I quite like DXO Optics Pro 9 due to the camera and lens profiles for my equipment. However, it has limited functionality compared to Lightroom 5.6 which I'm also trying.
I note the resources folder for Lightroom contains the file Panasonic DMC-GX7 Adobe Standard.dcp which appears to support the GX7. However, the Adobe folder does not contain any lens profiles for my Panasonic or Olympus lenses.
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DXO Optics Pro marks various RAW pixels with a magenta cross with noise processing disabled and ACDSee Pro shows them as a black dot. I'm still unsure whether these are "dead pixels" or just pixels marked for particular analysis. Lightroom, SilkyPix and RawThreapee mentioned above have no "dead pixels" on initial RAW image import. Very curious.
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ISE 1.x profiler question (Network Scan Action & Exception Action)

Could someone please explain the following based on this scenario:
Say you create a Profiler Policy called “DeviceBrandX” and you set the Minimum Certainty Factor to 20 and you create a condition to profile based on a check for condition based on host-name in DHCP and you assign the condition a Certainty Factor Increases of 10. In additoin you define an Exception Action and a Network Scan (NMAP) Action in the policy.
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If you create another condition that initiates a scan Network Scan (NMAP) Action to scan say for OS - how does the scan influence the Certainty Factor?
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Thank you for the response; I have looked at the apple-device policy, I see that the “* Exception Action” field is = NONE. I only see that the Network Scan (NMAP) Action is set to OS-scan. In fact I have looked at all the generic policies and none have an “* Exception Action” field set.
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ACR - Process - Profile question

Coming from a film/wet darkroom environment and being completely new to digital, I need help with a few concepts.
I think I understand ACR being akin to developers in film speak transforming RAW files to the basic digital "negative" that can be manipulated via LR to become the final print. Different "developer" programs such as RPP can effect different effects on the negative such as Rodinal compared to Xtol on film. In LR, this digital "negative" is presented somewhat differently depending what preview setting I choose: minimal, standard, or 1:1. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Personally, I think the idea of "digital negative" is useful for introducing the idea of raw, but I think the analogy can quickly get stretched too far! One major difference: with film, when you process the film, you change it from raw (unprocessed) film into negative or transparency. The unprocessed film isn't there any more. With raw, the raw image data is never (as far as I know) altered. The output is a new processed image. If it needs to be saved, it's saved to a new file (TIF, jpeg or some other format).
Provided you keep the original raw file, then any processing effects can be reversed simply by going back to the original and processing it again.
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Hi
I've got a quick question regarding colour profiles.
I've designed an A5 flyer for a client and I have my CS3 suite colour settings set to Adobe 1998 for RGB and Euro Coated for CMYK. The client has decided that this flyer is now to be printed on uncoated paper. So, should I be converting or assigning the working/document CMYK profile to Euro uncoated?
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I think you are guessing correctly, they may have some control which will work ok for them at a certain level.
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2. Would those files remain accessible via Finder?
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4. If I Moved/Deleted a photo from a folder, could I make Lightroom update the catalog with the new info?
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1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Yes
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How can i in cs6 proof an lab photographic profile question ? and where is minibridge?

Hi
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is right?
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select the Lab profile
What an unfortunate choice of words (or capitalization).
Lab is a color space, but I think you mean »the RGB- (or possibly even CMYK-) profile required/recommended by the photographic lab«.
In that case it seems recommendable to actually convert (duplicates of) the images to the profile and handing those over to the lab because settings like Render Intent, Black Point Compensation etc. can make a difference in appearance.
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I'm profiling a Canon 5D3 with both the Adobe DNG Profile Editor and the Xrite ColorChecker software. It's been about 3 years since I last profiled a camera, so I'm re-doing the learning curve. My question now is how and why the DNG Profile editor depends on a "base profile?" Specifically, why does the DNG PE Chart Wizard generate different results depending on what base profile is used.
I see in the documentation that "all color adjustments made in the DNG Profile Editor are defined relative to a base profile." I understand that logic when making a custom profile via manual tweaks. You have to have a starting point. But I don't understand that logic when using the Chart Wizard. I expected the Chart Wizard to arrive at the same pre-defined target point regardless of the starting point. It does not seem to do that.
I discovered the difference by using an apparently bad workflow. I shot my colorchecker chart, converted the CR2 to DNG and brought it into Photoshop via ACR to inspect. That stored "Adobe Standard" as the base profile in the DNG.
Then I fed this DNG to the DNG PE Chart Wizard and generated a profile. I opened the image in ACR and applied "My Profile", which became the base profile in the DNG file. I thought I did something wrong, so I ran the same DNG through the Chart Wizard again and generated "My Second Profile." That version looked very strange, so I did it again and made "My Third Profile."
Now I have three profiles. My First Profile was made from Adobe Standard base. My Second Profile was made from My First Profile base. My Third Profile was made from My Second Profile base. Each iteration becomes more strange (bad), so this is clearly not the proper workflow. But what is? What base profile should be selected for Chart Wizard and why does it matter?
Being curious, I did the same exercise using the Xrite ColorChecker software. That software generates the same result, regardless of what base profile is stored in the DNG files. I'm not sure I like the results, but at least they are consistent.

DNG Profile Editor lets you define color edits (in the first tab) using a set of color control points. These control points in turn define a color lookup table used to perform the color correction when processing a (raw) image.
When you use a Base Profile, the resulting color table in the final profile is a combination of the base profile's color table, plus the color table defined by any edits that you've added in the first tab (using the Chart Wizard counts as adding edits to that first tab).
The reason you can get different and less smooth results if you apply the Chart Wizard iteratively is because you are applying lookup table after lookup table. The current color table-building method used by DNG PE has some limitations regarding smoothness of color profiles if two color control points are placed too closely (this can happen with the Chart Wizard, or if you specify two points manually that are close to each other). These problems can become more noticeable if you apply the DNG PE iteratively.

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Canon 40D in Lightroom 2.3
While reading the FAQ I noted the statement for the Canon settings:
In general, there are 5 CM profiles per Canon DSLR, one for each of the default Canon Picture Styles. These five Picture Styles are called Standard, Portrait, Landscape, Neutral, and Faithful. The CM profiles will match the Canon Picture Styles with all Canon sliders (i.e., Contrast, Color Balance, and Saturation) set to their default values of 0.
What if the Standard style does NOT have the default setting to value of 0?
If the styles should be at value 0 for Lightroom to apply the profile then the words should say exactly that.
My other query is if including several ISO settings when preparing the specific camera profile.
If the image that is open while preparing the profile and settings to be saved as a camera profile has an ISO 200 then when are other ISO ratings included in the camera profile?
Is the camera profile updated by opening another image with an ISO 400 entering any specific adjustment settings then do the update the camera profile? This routine to be repeated for any other IS0 rating.
The detail of adding these ISO ratings to the camera profile are not specificied at the site I visited
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nor do I see it in the FAQ
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>What if the Standard style does NOT have the default setting to value of 0?
I guess you are referring to the sliders in Lightroom. The text in that FAQ refers to the settings in your camera that override the picture styles. The sliders in Lightroom need to be at their default settings. Those are NOT zero for a lot of the sliders. The default is 5 for blacks, 25 for contrast, 50 for brightness and the tone curve at medium contrast. Everyting else should be at zero. Using these default settings and a camera-matching profile will yield you a rendering that mimics the in-camera jpeg with the same picture style, provided you do not modify the settings in your camera.
>If the image that is open while preparing the profile and settings to be saved as a camera profile has an ISO 200 then when are other ISO ratings included in the camera profile?
The profiles are ISO independent. The color rendering is independent of the ISO of your camera so there is no need for separate camera profiles at different ISOs. To generate a camera profile, you only need to shoot a single image (actually usually two, one in daylight and one in tungsten light) preferably at the lowest ISO so that noise does not screw up the calibration. There are other things automatically taken care of in Lightroom depending on ISO such as baseline noise reduction.
>The detail of adding these ISO ratings to the camera profile are not specificied at the site I visited http://www.computer-darkroom.com/lr_camera/camera-defaults.htm
nor do I see it in the FAQ
This page talks about camera defaults. This is something completely different from the camera profile. Camera defaults are simply default Develop settings dependent on which camera your RAW file came off off. These default settings can include the application of a camera matching profile and the defaults can be ISO dependent.

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I am relatively new to lightroom. I have a question about incorporating photos from various sources. What is the best workflow for getting photos that have been emailed (for example) into my lighroom catalogue?
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You might want to set up a single folder to receive e-mailed photos, so you'd first save to that folder from the e-mails, then run Import from LR and add your keywords at that time. You can also run Synchronise once it's set up to be sure you've incorporated of them as time goes on.

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