Line Up Clips for a Multi-clip Edit

Hi I am editing a dance video, when it was recorded at the event a few of the camera people decided to pause after every song - this has made it a hassle to edit. I am trying to line up the clips to get them all in sync for a multi-clip. The only way I could think of to do this was give each camera angle a track and line them up that. I almost have them all lined up, but I have no idea how to make it back into one clip, since it is currently cut into tons of pieces. How do I combine them back into one clip? The closest I could find was Nesting, but that creates a sequence, and I can't make a Multi-clip out of sequences.
Each video track is a different angle, the screenshot I posted doesn't show all of the clips lined up, because I didn't get quite that far. How can I make this into a multi-clip
I just started using Final Cut about a week ago and I don't really know how it all works....yet.
Any help would be appreciated.
Screenshot: http://arch.kimag.es/share/16064428.png

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1207003&tstart=25
Thrillcat (and others) posted a great solution to your situation in the above thread...
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