Lip sync multi cam fcpx

I use the latest version of FCPX. Used three cams and one audio track for a school musical registration.
JVC HM100 - Sony VG20 - Panasonic GH2 - Zoon H2n
In FCPX it seems to be lipsync. When exporting to quicktime or youtube/vimeo all is NOT lipsync.
It already costed me 12 hours to make half of the registration now I discover FCPX really has issues to keep audio lip sync.
Anyone any suggestions. I know next time I will try to use three identical cams...

Both FCP-X and Premiere Pro now contain much of the functionality of Pluraleyes. I am not sure about AVID.
harvestmedia wrote:
FCPx is almost the same cost. I am thinking to upgrade my FCP is that's useful. I still have lots of uncompleted projects which I have half edited in FCP7. Will it be a problem to carry on working on those projects in FCPx?
FCP-X is a completely different application that uses a completely new, unique and different editing paradigm. You need to download the free trial version to see what it is like. The only relation FCP-X has to FCP 7 is the name. For some users of other editing platforms, the learning curve can be long and steep as the magnetic timeline in FCP-X has no equivalent in other editing systems.
You will not be able to directly migrate projects from FCP 7 to FCP-X. You can use a third party app called 7 to X to convert an XML of your project from FCP-7 to a format that FCP-X can understand (with some limitations).
MtD

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And, yes, I did search the forum before hand.
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I am at present trying out Premeire CC, my workflow is usually a minimum of a 2 camera shoot for weddings, what I am trying todo in CC is to try and sync all the clips together for a multi cam sequence ready to edit.
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I record all my audio tracks into logic, and sync my cameras via LTC...
Why don't you just do a rough edit in FCP, export it, load the movie into Logic,
and record your audio tracks to picture? In Logic, you could even set the "Project
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I have been following several links on the world wide web on PP CC multi cam functionality.
In all of my research I caught a 32 milli-second snippet of of someone speaking while demonstrating Multicam where he something to the effect that using audio to sync video clips for the purpose of performing multi cam editing KEEPS the video clips in sync. No elaboration of any kind was said on this subject.
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Sorry for this question... operator???
I shoot tech videos on YouTube and I edit my own videos, so I guess I am the operator & observer here...
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Sequence Preset - Automatic
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Audio Channels Preset - Automatic (or Mono since my Blue Spark records in mono)
Camera Names - Enumerate Cameras
Any Idea where am messing up?
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Track Channel - 1
Sequence Preset - Automatic
Audio Sequence Settings - Camera 1
Audio Channels Preset - Automatic (or Mono since my Blue Spark records in mono)
Camera Names - Enumerate Cameras
Any Idea where am messing up?
Ash
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