Locking vs validation of profit centers

Hi,
the following thread: [https://forums.sdn.sap.com/click.jspa?searchID=19960531&messageID=6467289]
describes what I wanted to do as well.
What's the difference in locking the "DUMMY" profit center and creating a validation that would issue an error message?
Doesn't it come down to the same thing, i.e. the end user cannot book it?
Kind regards,
RafB

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1.     You can block cost centers and profit centers and create new or can use same by changing analysis period Eg: KS02 > Edit > Analysis period
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try with the below links. i'm not sure it'll solve ur issue. but atleast some what useful to u.
https://websmp201.sap-ag.de/~sapidb/011000358700000760832007E/CW34_FIN_Profit_Centers.pdf
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https://websmp201.sap-ag.de/~sapidb/011000358700000760572007E/CW34_FIN_Profit_Centers.wrf
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