Log and Transfer : any way to import a batch list?

HI
Anyone know if it's possible to import a Batch list of In/Out points (ie a txt file from Excel) to automatically populate the Log and Transfer window? (as can be done in the Log and Capture Window)
It would help reduce the amount of data produced when converting from AVHHD.
There's a great little app called ProxyMill that generates small QT Versions of AVCHD file with Timecode Burned In ... so offline style capture lists are certainly possible, if only I could import the resultant data!
Thanks in advance
Lee

Importing a Batch List
You can import a batch list into Final Cut Pro and use it to capture clips to edit or to create a sequence originally done on another editing system. The frame rate of the batch list is determined by the currently selected sequence preset in the Audio/Video Settings window.
Note: A batch list must be a text file. In some cases, you may need to add the .txt file extension to your filename to ensure that Final Cut Pro can import your file.
To import a batch list
In the Browser, open an existing bin, or create a new bin to store the offline clips and open it.
For more information, see “Organizing Footage in the Browser.”
Choose File > Import > Batch List.
Note: The frame rate of the current sequence preset appears in the Import Batch List command name. For example, if a DV NTSC preset is selected, the command is named Import Batch List at 29.97 fps.
Locate the batch list, select it, then click Choose.
The logged clips appear in the Browser as offline clips that you need to capture.
You can capture the clips all at one time by doing a batch capture. For more information, see “Batch Capturing Clips.”
Note: Make sure you have all the source tapes associated with the batch list before starting the capture process.
If you’re having a problem importing a batch capture list, check the format of the text file. Final Cut Pro does not support importing RTF (Rich Text Format) text files. If you have an RTF file you need to import, open it in a text editing application such as TextEdit and save it as a plain text document first.
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