Log forwarding from a non-domain server certificate types
I'm trying to set up a source initiated subscription (Log forwarding) where the event source server is not in the same domain as the event collector server. I'm following these steps:
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb870973(v=vs.85).aspx
It states that for this to work I need the following:
The collector computer should have a server authentication certificate (certificate with a server authentication purpose) in a
local computer certificate store.
And
The source machine should have a client authentication certificate (certificate with a client authentication purpose) in a
local computer certificate store.
I'm looking to use a third party certificate authority to get the 2 above client and server certs. My question is what type of certificates will I need for this to work? As there seem to be a lot of types and I am new to certs.
Hi Chard,
You can just request certificates from Computer Certificate Template. Certificate issued from Computer Certificate Template can be used for both Client and Server authentication.
Here is a related article below for you:
Certificate Templates Overview
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc730826(v=ws.10).aspx
In addition, if you have further query regarding certificates or CA, please refer to security forum below:
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/home?forum=winserversecurity
Best Regards,
Amy
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---------------- Certificate OCSP ----------------
No URLs "None" Time: 0
CRL 018d:
Issuer: CN=EntSubCA, DC=DED, DC=ROOT
33 af 4d be 0e 35 45 94 bc 8b 3f d9 c1 60 e7 0c c4 83 17 b6
Application[0] = 1.3.6.1.5.5.7.3.2 Client Authentication
Application[1] = 1.3.6.1.5.5.7.3.1 Server Authentication
CertContext[0][1]: dwInfoStatus=102 dwErrorStatus=0
Issuer: CN=SubCA
NotBefore: 13.11.2014 19:12
NotAfter: 13.11.2017 19:22
Subject: CN=EntSubCA, DC=DED, DC=ROOT
Serial: 6109015b000100000008
Template: SubCA
9b 04 17 9f c5 fe 52 ca a5 58 49 6c c6 18 fa db 13 b3 92 9e
Element.dwInfoStatus = CERT_TRUST_HAS_KEY_MATCH_ISSUER (0x2)
Element.dwInfoStatus = CERT_TRUST_HAS_PREFERRED_ISSUER (0x100)
---------------- Certificate AIA ----------------
Failed "AIA" Time: 0
Error retrieving URL: The network path was not found. 0x80070035 (WIN32: 53)
file://\\sub_ca\CertEnroll\sub_ca_SubCA(1).crt
Verified "Certificate (0)" Time: 0
[1.0] file://\\ca\crl\SubCA.crt
Verified "Certificate (0)" Time: 4
[2.0] http://webserver/crl/SubCA.crt
---------------- Certificate CDP ----------------
Verified "Base CRL (32)" Time: 0
[0.0] file://\\ca\crl\SubCA.crl
Verified "Base CRL (32)" Time: 4
[1.0] http://webserver/crl/SubCA.crl
---------------- Base CRL CDP ----------------
No URLs "None" Time: 0
---------------- Certificate OCSP ----------------
No URLs "None" Time: 0
CRL 32:
Issuer: CN=SubCA
8d a9 9d 51 65 a3 8e 77 02 22 40 57 62 70 e8 f6 c5 2e 60 1e
CertContext[0][2]: dwInfoStatus=102 dwErrorStatus=0
Issuer: CN=RootCA
NotBefore: 28.05.2008 12:09
NotAfter: 28.05.2058 12:19
Subject: CN=SubCA
Serial: 616bd19f000100000004
Template: SubCA
06 d2 47 e7 dc 8f a7 97 a2 b8 c3 92 03 19 24 0c 47 45 22 14
Element.dwInfoStatus = CERT_TRUST_HAS_KEY_MATCH_ISSUER (0x2)
Element.dwInfoStatus = CERT_TRUST_HAS_PREFERRED_ISSUER (0x100)
---------------- Certificate AIA ----------------
Verified "Certificate (0)" Time: 0
[0.0] file://\\ca\crl\RootCA.crt
Verified "Certificate (0)" Time: 4
[1.0] http://webserver/crl/RootCA.crt
---------------- Certificate CDP ----------------
Verified "Base CRL (1c)" Time: 4
[0.0] http://webserver/crl/RootCA.crl
Verified "Base CRL (1c)" Time: 0
[1.0] file://\\ca\crl\RootCA.crl
---------------- Base CRL CDP ----------------
No URLs "None" Time: 0
---------------- Certificate OCSP ----------------
No URLs "None" Time: 0
CRL 1c:
Issuer: CN=RootCA
dc 98 2f 8d 16 9c 64 6e b2 74 89 95 9a 6c 1b 77 fd 58 63 fb
CertContext[0][3]: dwInfoStatus=10c dwErrorStatus=0
Issuer: CN=RootCA
NotBefore: 27.05.2008 16:10
NotAfter: 27.05.2110 16:20
Subject: CN=RootCA
Serial: 258de6fbd3bbab92460530e9e9f10536
5d e4 56 38 13 0a 52 aa 66 51 25 61 19 33 c9 d7 a2 c7 dd 38
Element.dwInfoStatus = CERT_TRUST_HAS_NAME_MATCH_ISSUER (0x4)
Element.dwInfoStatus = CERT_TRUST_IS_SELF_SIGNED (0x8)
Element.dwInfoStatus = CERT_TRUST_HAS_PREFERRED_ISSUER (0x100)
---------------- Certificate AIA ----------------
Verified "Certificate (0)" Time: 0
[0.0] file://\\ca\crl\RootCA.crt
Verified "Certificate (0)" Time: 4
[1.0] http://webserver/crl/RootCA.crt
---------------- Certificate CDP ----------------
Verified "Base CRL (1c)" Time: 0
[0.0] file://\\ca\crl\RootCA.crl
Verified "Base CRL (1c)" Time: 4
[1.0] http://webserver/crl/RootCA.crl
---------------- Base CRL CDP ----------------
No URLs "None" Time: 0
---------------- Certificate OCSP ----------------
No URLs "None" Time: 0
CRL 1c:
Issuer: CN=RootCA
dc 98 2f 8d 16 9c 64 6e b2 74 89 95 9a 6c 1b 77 fd 58 63 fb
Issuance[0] = 1.2.700.113556.1.4.7000.233.28688.7.167403.1102261.1593578.2302197.1
Exclude leaf cert:
5b 8d 96 39 f8 a3 6f af f3 89 bc 8d 78 e2 da 53 21 b8 ff aa
Full chain:
ca 99 30 47 9b ad ab ce 97 cc 70 80 a5 4e 11 b3 1a 83 98 78
Verified Issuance Policies: None
Verified Application Policies:
1.3.6.1.5.5.7.3.2 Client Authentication
1.3.6.1.5.5.7.3.1 Server Authentication
ERROR: Verifying leaf certificate revocation status returned The revocation function was unable to check revocation because the revocation server was offline. 0x80092013 (-2146885613)
CertUtil: The revocation function was unable to check revocation because the revocation server was offline.
CertUtil: -verify command completed successfully.What you have discovered is the reason to *not* use LDAP URLs for CDP and AIA extensions in your PKI. To access those URLs, the account must access to the URLs. In your output, it is quite clear that the local account does not have necessary permissions
(you also use FILE URLs for publication, which again is not recommended).
The best practice is to use a single URL for the CDP extension. It should be an HTTP URL that is hosted on a highly available (internally and externally accessible) Web cluster.
For the AIA extension, it should contain two URLs: one for the CA certificate - again to an internally and externally accessible, highly available Web cluster and one for the OCSP service - also
an internally and externally accessible, highly available Web cluster.
the other issue is that the root CA is *not* trusted when run by a non-domain account. How are you adding the trusted root CA. It is recommended to do this by running
certutil -dspublish -f RootCA.crt.
This will ensure that the computer account trusts the root CA. In your output, the root CA certificate is not trusted.
Brian
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