Logic Pro X and Yamaha Motif XS8

Hi anyone...
I've not been impressed with the way my Motif XS8 interfaced with Cubase and am considering moving to Logic Pro X. Before I make the commitment to a) move operating system (Windows to iOS), b) purchase the new DAW and c) buy a Mac... can anyone advise on the following points?
1     Is the Yamaha Motif XS8 available as an 'external instrument' so that I can select from Logic which of the hundreds of voices plays on the XS8?
2     Is it possible to record audio and MIDI onto Logic from the XS8, and will I need an interface of some sort between the two?
3     How straightforward is it to hook the two up and get going? (I want to make music, not spend hours configuring stuff)
Any support, advice or opinions very much appreciated...
Paul

How have you connected your Motif to your Mac?
Midi both ways? (What interface are you using?)
Are you using an external Instrument track in Logic to record and send midi data to and from Logic?
How are you recording the audio output of your Motif?
Have you conntected the audio output of your Motif to audio inputs of an audio interface (again if so, which interface) and created a Audio track in Logic to record the audio output?
You do realize that Midi is not audio yes?
You may find this thread on LPH of use....
https://www.logicprohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=99965

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