Logic Time Compression/Expansion vs. WAVES SoundShifter

I'm considering upgrading my WAVES Platinum to the Diamond, largely because of the SoundShifter plug-in. Does anybody have any experience with the WAVES SoundShifter plug-in? Is it significantly better than what is already included in Logic 8?
Thanks!
M

I used to be hard core Logic only, and then I noticed something (this may seem off topic but I'm getting around to the point). For the first time, probably about 2 or 3 years ago, Digidesign got off their laurels and realized that other software platforms were taking legitimate shots at their "industry standard."
That's when you saw instrument tracks implemented - that's when you saw better (but still far from the quality of Logic) MIDI implementation. . . that's when the Digidesign AIR group was created. . . that's when Digi added the dynamic transport, flexible track resizing, screen sets, included software instruments.
As a whole, Pro Tools still does not give you the abilities out of the box that Logic does. However, whatever gap Logic 8 closed between itself and Pro Tools with audio editing, Digi widened even further than before with the introduction of elastic time. That's when I finally realized that Pro Tools, a great editor, tracking, and mixing machine, finally realized that its throne was threatened and went to defend it. My work used to primarily take place in Logic, however, that has switched. I probably do 60-80% of my work now in PT and still use Logic for mixing and such. For whatever reason I just like it better. . . I"m sure that will change over too. All pro tools has to do is implement a Logic-esque MIDI editor and I'm not sure I'd have any reason to stay with Logic. Digi has really stepped up to the plate in a time where it has looked like Logic has stepped up, and then done nothing to stay up.
All that to say if you want good timestretching, right now PT is just about the only way to go.

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