Long Term Battery Storage

Hi! Last week at my local Apple Genius Bar, I was advised to long term store my unused PowerBook battery at a 50% charge (okay, standard advice I know)....the rest of the advice was "stored in the freezer and it didn't need to be protected in storage bag". Has anyone tried this? Does freezing offer more protection than just sitting in a drawer with a 50% charge? I want to prolong my battery as long as possible so all help is very much appreciated.
15" PowerBook Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Sounds like the tech was misinterpreting. According to this source, 40% charge in a refrigerator is good for long-term storage, but freezing is FORBIDDEN.
So 40%-50% charge, cold but NOT frozen.

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But this is not enough anymore!
1. It's still a single file system that can be damaged by any rouge app or action, as all actions are duplicated onto all the disk in the RAID set.
2. (1) Does not solve the problem is being able to store a duplicate in a fire/water/offsite location.
3. HDs fail and the RAID goes someway to solve this, but it's intensely stressful when a disk fails.
4. Running periodical backups is very painful when dealing with such a large number of images.
I am not a Pro and I am in a family environment but we list to use Aperture as it offers more than iPhoto. But the problem of long term image storage must be an issue what every the application being used.
I am looking forward to see what TimeMachine will do for me in OS 10.5, but this does not solve (2)
I have looked at the iomega Rev drive as a possible solution, with 35gb or 70gb per cartidge, and more importantly, 30 years expected data life. The price is a little expensive but I cannot find an alternative for image vaults
I have a minor problem with iomega in the long term (>15 years) viability of the company, they seem to have just ventured into the online email security for new revenue, which suggests to me they are are not able to improve their positon on storage media.
I have tried giving writing DVD-DL a go but that is just unworkable for me, also I cannot get anyone to commit to how long the data will be readable.

I use a combination based on a couple important principals. The first is "you can't backup enough". Second principal is "nothing is reliable". Third is "you will screw it up". You being the person trying to back things up. The final one is "things will go bad just when you thought everything was perfect".
The basic gist is backing up needs to be reliable, mostly automatic, redundant, and across varied media.
I have 40K RAW images in my library. There are five copies of every RAW file I've ever taken spread across three different hard drive volumes and CD/DVD's. There are three copies of every .psd file spread across two different hard drive volumes and CD/DVD's. My two RAID 0 volumes are connected all the time and backed up every night. My RAID 5 volume is only connected when I do a backup on that which is about once a week. The CD/DVD's are made every month on everything that's new.
I have over 100 CD/DVD's and am considering remaking those read only products using the latest equipment I have. I'm seriously considering loading my entire RAW library onto a site like Smugmug in jpeg form. That would give me a worse case scenario loss recovery capability.
In the mean time, my CD/DVD's are store off site at a friends house.
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Short Term Battery Storage and Transportation

Hello, I just bought a second MBP battery because the 3 hours that my main was was giving me wasnt long enough to last my school day. I was wondering how one would package the battery so that I could carry it around with me without it exploding on me. And secondly, the bottom/or top (whichever way you look at it seems like its an exposed metal peice (the one with the serial numbers and stuff. Is it bad to make a lot of contact with that part?

Sounds like the tech was misinterpreting. According to this source, 40% charge in a refrigerator is good for long-term storage, but freezing is FORBIDDEN.
So 40%-50% charge, cold but NOT frozen.

What is the best media for long-term video storage?

I will be loading several MiniDV tapes into my Mac and want to store the video long-term (in a safe-deposit box). These are going to be home movies with some digital photos or scans as well.
I am curious what folks believe is the best medium for this. I am considering a Passport-style HD like those from LaCie, Western Digital and others. Has anyone had good luck with these? Or am I on the wrong track?
Thank you in advance for your opinions,
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I considered getting one of the DVD recorder products from Sony (they say you can plug right into the camera, hit a button and get a DVD copy of the footage in real time)
You understand that a DVD recorder will convert and seriously compress the material in the transcode from DV to mpeg2?
DVDs like this are not a storage system if you are looking to keep original material in a) as close to original quality as possible and b) in an editable format.
40 1 hour DV tapes is just over 500 GB when captured. Get 2 1 TB drives and make two copies of the material. Use one for editing on-line and put the other on a shelf (not in your house). Just be sure to get it back and spin it up every month or so.
The tapes need to be seriously secured. If the safety deposit box is too small, look into a fireproof home vault. 40 tapes do not take up that much space. Just store it in a cool and not humid location.
x

Long term video storage on flash drive camcorders?

I love the new iMovie '08... I'm a professional video editor, and for "real" editing it is fairly useless, but as a quick and easy way to take my home movies, throw them together incredibly quickly, and post them on the web, it's sheer brilliance. I especially love the ability to load in clips from a camcorder the way you'd do still footage in iPhoto...
But before I buy a flash or hdd based camcorder, anyone have suggestions for long term storage? Let's say my grandkids will want to watch the footage 50 years from now, like I watch my grandparent's old 8mm filmstrips.
Is importing every single frame and storing them on a hard drive really the only way to do it? Or are there better options? (And before you suggest burning to a DVD, I consider that temporary storage, with a shelf life of 10 years if you're lucky.)
Any ideas?

I'm with Kirk's strategy...
magnetic tape has a >70y track record.. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reel-to-reelaudio_taperecording .. gosh, a German invention...) you have some options to break it (put tapes on speakers, CRTs, .... ), but usually, it is a very reliable media.
dvds...
some of my first homebrewn disks are.. +digital nirvana+ ... just simple bright sunlight 'burned' them .. first commercial CDs could get rosty...
just to mention that: commercial disks are 'mechanical' done, glas master + 'pits' pressed in the dye.. homebrewn stuff is 'changing the polarized reflection behavior of laser light'... (does this work anyhow )
latest news from here: in some German boards, people complain commercial disks 'get purple' ... the 'plastics' of the disks degrades somehow, changes the color = disk unreadable...
on boards with a less technical attitude, it is discussed, that we live in the 'lost area'... in a few 100 years, there'll be no documents of daily life, no 'manuscripts' of authors.. (e.g. Stephen King can read his first novels only in Print.. his 'original' floppies, including the process of writing, are 'useless' ..), ... any chemical film, older books (newer paper, ≤150y, degrades due to changed manufacturing ..) are readable..
Ken Burns would have trouble to produce a 'The War, pt. II' in 2200 ...

Long term Battery preservation...

A genius at Apple retail told me this tip for longterm battery life:
don't leave the computer plugged in while it sleeps. It's cool to let the HD spin down and let the screen sleep, but down let the system sleep without pulling the AC.
He also said that when it comes thime t do a weekly calibration, that letting it dry up all the way is sort of a wives tale... In fact, its better he says to let it go down almost to 0 and similarly not to let it get to full capacity on the recharge (this is achieved automatically whenthe AC is in and the system is still awake. Basically the system tricks the battery into not charging all the way which for some reason save it in the long term.
Does any of that make sense, and if so are there any other means by which one can keep the battery lving and lasting longer (short term and long term suggestion welcome, many thanks in advance.

It seems geniuses ain't what they used to be...
1) You can choose to have the disks spun down when attached to external power.
2) I'll take the word of the engineers who designed the device and chose its components over that of an hourly guy in a retail store any day. By that I mean I'll follow Apple's published instructions on maintenance. It's not that they might not discover a better way, but I just consider them a lot more authoritative.
The whole power and battery area seems rife with folklore. Folklore and computers don't mix!.
Take your advice from the horse's mouth. Follow Apple's instructions and recommendations. They publish a great deal of information on-line. I have to believe it's generally well vetted by their engineering staff.
Randall Schulz
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Best long term battery life Should I leave plugged in when I can?"

Hi
If I want to get the best life out of my battery, it would seem to me to get the lowest number of full "load cycles", that I would leave plugged in as much as possible.
Is this logic corrrect?
thanks
ed

icebike wrote:
Charging to max capacity reduces battery service life. Getting close to max (but never waiting till the plug symbol shows up) will extend your service life.
So if you charge it this way (charge close to, but not full capacity--i.e., plug symbol does not appear)...won't this mean the iPhone's "Usage" meter would never display any figures since IIRC once the iPhone 3G detects that it's receiving power from an external power source (e.g., charger), it resets the Usage stats...at which point the Usage meter will then not display any usage info until/unless the phone is fully charged?
IOW--if you don't charge the iPhone to full capacity, you'd never be able to see how long it's been in use and/or in standby since the Usage meter will start to tick only from a full-charge condition (it even says "Time since last full charge" at the top of the Usage screen).

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Any idea how many cycles the battery can take before being replaced... anti-iPhone types are telling me only 400... anyone know for sure?

I believe that is true. But it's not counted as how many times you hook it up to charge. It's 400 full deplete and recharge cycles.
So, if you charge it when it's halfway down (as an example), that only counts as 1/4 of a charge cycle.
I think if you don't overheat the iPhone by leaving it in a hot car or something, it should last at least until you are ready to upgrade to a newer iPhone (like 2 years or more). I'm well into 2 years with my iPod Video with no signs of the battery going bad.

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Lumia 720 long term storage

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25 °C (77 °F) 4% loss after 1 year 20% loss after 1 year
40 °C (104 °F) 15% loss after 1 year 35% loss after 1 year
60 °C (140 °F) 25% loss after 1 year 40% loss after 3 months
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http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_store_batteries
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HT3053 Can I run my MacBook Pro Late 2008 without battery forever? Is it bad in long term or anything? Does it make the system less stable?

Can I run my MacBook Pro Late 2008 without battery forever? Is it bad in long term or anything? Does it make the system less stable?
My battery got swollen (and I unfortunately noticed it very late and might have be running with it for months, which potentially explains all the crashes everyday and the trackpad not working anymore, the Apple test also says I have a bar of ram broken...) and I had to remove it because the back pannel did not close anymore... Can I still use my MBP normally forever that way? I was planning on buying a new mac anyway but maybe waiting for the next iMac upgrade in the year... Should I wait?

Other than the system shutting down instantly if you have a power outage, whcih could corrupt the OS. Nothing else bad will happen.

Excluding storage location from MRP run in Long Term Planning

Hi,friends,
In my scenario , i want to exclude storage location from MRP run in long term planning.When i set storage location MRP indicator "2" in SPRO and SLoc MRP indicator "1" MRP4 in material master, i can exclude the storage location after run MRP with MD01/MD02,and i can see the expected result in MD04.But in Long Term Planning scenario the storage location can not be excluded after run MRP with MS01/MS02,and the requirements list in MS04 include the stock in the storage location i want to exclude. i dont know if i miss something.Plz give me some advice.
Regards
Joey

Hi,
Refer the OSS Note 208017 - LTP: Long-term planning and storage locations
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Symptom
In long-term planning (Transactions MSBT / MS01 / MS02 / MS03), the MRP indicator of a storage location for a material is not taken into account (material master, view MRP 2 [up to and including Release 3.1I] or MRP 4 [as of Release 4.0A]).
The storage locations excluded by MRP or planned separately are also planned in the plant segment.
Additional key words
LTP, MM01, MM02, MM03, master data, MRP indicator, LGORT ...
Cause and prerequisites
The MRP indicator for a certain storage location of a material is only taken into account in operative planning (requirements planning, MRP).
The long-term planning occurs exclusively at plant level.
Solution
This is no error. The system works as intended.
The individual storage locations should not be distinguished in the long-term planning, in order to perform a comprehensive long-term planning.
This is important, for example, within the kanban processing where the storage locations with kanban MRP are excluded from the MRP, but in spite of that should be included in the long-term planning.
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Regards,
Siva

Long Term Storage ideas for Data in an Oracle Database

We have data that we no longer need access to and want to archive it on tapes for long term storage.
We want to save the data using datapump or rman from time to time and and store the exports/backups on tapes. The issue we don't want to face in the future is , if Oracle deprecates the methodology we used to save the data in 2012, we no longer have a way to retrieve the data into a database 10 years from now.
This may sound crazy, but hear me out. Before datapump existed everyone was using vanilla exp to export the data. Now we have datapump as exp's upgrade and we have rman too. What if in 2012 we took an export using datapump or a backup using rman and save it off on a tape. 10 years go by and in 2022 management wants to look at the 2012 data. Lets say by this time Oracle's mothodology changes and they have a much more efficient/robust export/backup method. One way for us to keep the old backups up to date is to import the data back before the method we used in 2012 is deprecated and then export/backup the data using the new method to keep the exports/tapes in sync with then current technology.
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Won't an intelligent compression algorithm take care of a lot of the overhead for that?
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That's certainly a valid point to make and one that the OP can test. And because the duplicated metadata is identical and in the same physical row location there may be compression algorithms that can reduce it to just one set.
There were two points I was trying to make.
1. Don't just save the data - save the metadata also.
2. The metadata for each row will be the same so if you use an INSERT format that duplicates it for every row you are potentially wasting a lot of space.
Your other point was probably more important than these or anything previously mentioned.
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perform restores of the entire database every couple of years or so to make sure that your
database isn't degrading
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Regardless of the format and media used to backup the data it is important to verify the integrity of the backup periodically.
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I have approximately one hundred 8 mm video cassette tapes that I would like to convert to another format for long term storage. I captured my first tape today from my camera Sony DCR VTR 520 which is a digital 8 mm camera. I was not planning to convert the files to DVDs at this time but just keep the avi file on the computer.   The video was just over 2 hours long but the file ends up being 27 GB.   I expecting it to be around 8 GB like a 2 hr DVD but I guess its not the same.
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If I want to keep them as avi files will I have to live with these large file sizes?
I did a search on the forum and found titles that talk about this subject from a couple of years ago but when I click on them they don't come up.   How do you see these older threads?
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JMJarige,
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In the production to DVD, there is MPEG2 compression applied. If one edits that material, and then they output to any compressed CODEC, the quality loss is easily seen
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