LR 4 H.264 Greyscale export

Hello,
I converted my files to B&W and viewing them in LR4 they look great.
I exported them to H.264 files and in viewing them in Quicktime, the files are doing wierd digitizing and flashing between positive and negative.
Can anyone help me straighten this out?
Thank you!
Christopher

QuickTime can't extract audio from muxed file formats so you would have had a silent movie.
Try MPEG Streamclip (free) to convert your MPEG-1 file to QuickTime formats.

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ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : AVC
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Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
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