LSO Course Pass Fail option

Hi Experts,
Do I need to configure delivery method "Online Test" to activate Pass/Fail option for a CBT course? Please advice.
Thanks
Francis

Hi Ravi
Thanks a lot for the response.
Could you please tell me how to do it for Classsroom Courses Like after booking the course where to give Completion Status ,i want to check this settings in the Sand box.
I did the follow up settings in the back end.
Thanks in advance
Regards
Kumar

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SCO Mastery Score vs Pass/Fail Options

Hi,
Could someone explain to me the deference between setting a
the SCO Mastery Score at say 80% and setting the pass/fail option
to 80%?
It seems in content we have created in the past that SCO
mastery score is essential in stopping content going to completion
and to transcript while the pass/fail setting doesn't act in this
way. So this leads to the question, what is the point of the
pass/fail setting?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated as always.
Ryan

Ryan, from what I have experianced with this, the pass/fail
option determines the score that Captivate uses to decide if it
should display pass of fail slides, or the message on the results
slide. the SCO Mastery Score tells your LMS what to use for pass or
fail.
Dave.

Quiz Manager - Pass/Fail Options

I want the user to go to a final slide after they see the
quiz results. I have set the "If passing grade, Action" to
"continue." A "Continue" button appears at the bottom of the quiz
results slide but it does not work. I have also tried setting the
action to "jump to slide" and selected the last slide to no avail.
I have the same problem with the "If failing grade, Action."
I would like the user to be forced to take the course again. I set
the action to "jump to slide" and selected the first slide, but no
luck. One last question - if they do fail and the action is set to
"jump to slide 1," will this reset the questions?
Thank you.

Hi Intrigante89!
You said ...
quote:
One last question - if they do fail and the action is set to
"jump to slide 1," will this reset the questions?
Last question first, no the questions won't be reset,
and that's why the Fail option should
not be set to return to slide #1 to retake the course
(immediately). A good solution to this dilemma is to have the
course of study in one movie, and the test for that course in a
different movie as shown below:
my_training_movie_1
(and)
my_training_movie_1_test
As to your other question about the "Continue" button not
continuing ... is there a slide after the final scored slide to
which they can continue? I know that sounds dumb, but if the final
question is also the final slide, there is no point in continuing.
Hope I'm making sense.
To fix this so the movie continues after the results are
displayed, just add a slide at the end, even if it is just a short
blank slide. Hope this helps.
.

Why does captivate 5 scorm 2004 change the pass/fail status when using complete/incomplete

SUMMARY: I am trying to use SCORM 2004 reporting but I am finding out ADOBE does not diffentiate between COMPLETE/INCOMPLETED and PASSED/FAILED variables in the SCORM 2004.
RESULT: I can not accurately get the passing/failing status from the course.
QUESTION: Is their anything I can do or does ADOBE have a patch they have release which will accurately report the passed/failed STATUS as well as the completed/incompleted status.
OTHER RESEARCH: I even attempted to post these "proofs" on scorm.com and they have something called "SATISFACTION TRACKED" to accomodate content creation systems (CAPTIVATE 5) which does not follow the standards of SCORM 2004.
BACKGROUND: the report status "Incomplete/Complete" and "Pass/Fail" under the publishing options for SCORM 2004 essentially mean the same thing when the CAPTIVATE COURSE sends setvar commands to the SCORM API... In other words the SCORM API receives the same exact commands when publishing in both modes. "THIS IS WRONG"
why is the wrong? IF REPORTING; incomplete/complete ; the CAPTIVATE 5 COURSE SHOULD NOT "change" the STATUS OF PASS/FAIL when attempting to report COMPLETE/INCOMLETE with 100% slide views.
DEMO #3> SHOWS THE PROBLEM
About DEMO #1 and DEMO #2> these are other reporting options I attempted with other problems arrising..so these images are just for supporting my original problem which is shown in DEMO #3...
DEMO 1 (REPORT STATUS has no affect on reporting):SETTINGS:
PASS: (PROBLEM)
Anything above Passing Score is not recorded to LMS (once passing is reached...no more bookmarks are recorded)
FAIL: (CORRECT)
Failure gets sent to the database on the last screen with "completed"
DEMO 2 (Report status [Complete/Incomplete Pass/Fail] has no impact on commands sent to scorm api):
SETTINGS:
PASS: (CORRECT)
Very Last page gets sent to the Database
FAIL: (PROBLEM)
NOTHING GETS SENT TO DATABASE (stuck in final score screen forever)...because it says "INCOMPLETE"
DEMO 3:
Report status [Complete/Incomplete Pass/Fail] has no impact on commands sent to scorm api
SETTINGS:
PASS: (CORRECT)
Very Last page gets sent to the Database with a 90% passing with "completed"
FAIL: (PROBLEM)
LAST SLIDE SENDS "completed" but GETS SENT AS A PASSING SCORE??? even when it is a failure
(IN OTHER WORDS ADOBE CHANGES THE PASS/FAIL STATUS based on slide views...
this is WRONG ....REALLY WRONG becuase I am trying to report
"COMPLETE/INCOMPLETE" for 100% slide views
PASS/FAIL OPTIONS:
OPTION I CAN PURSUE?
SO WHAT CAN I DO? YES, I CAN TELL THE LMS...to COMPARE THE SCORE RECEIVED DURING A "COMPLETE" status...and then change the grade in the LMS based on the SCORE IN THE LMS...BUT THAT WOULD MEAN THE LMS COULD REPORT ONE GRADE and the COURSE COULD REPORT A DIFFERENT GRADE....and that would not be good.
ALL OF OUR COURSES SHOW THE STUDENT THE FINAL SCORE WITHIN EACH COURSE..
QUESTION TO ADOBE?
SO ADOBE when are you going to differentiate these two reporting options so that the PASS/FAIL OPTIONS ARE ACCURATELY REPORTED WHEN USING COMPLETE/INCOMPLETE?
MORE INFORMATION
HERE IS THE SCORM.COM "Satisfaction" adjustment (very last line) to accomodate inconsistent reporting in CAPTIVATE 5.
Thanks,
DOUG LUBEY OF LOUISIANA
www.douglubey.com
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Hi,
Here's something I found in a similar situation... hope this helps!
After publishing your CP5 project as a SCORM 2004 zip file, unzip the file so you can get into the separate files. Open the imsmanifest.xml file with a text editor; I like using Notepad++. Search for the line starting with <imsss:minNormalizedMeasure>. The complete line will probably look like <imss:minNormalizedMeasure></imss:minNormalizedMeasure>, this is the line that is supposed to contain your passing score (at least for our LMS). So, if your passing score is supposed to be 80%, edit this line to be: <imsss:minNormalizedMeasure>0.80</imsss:minNormalizedMeasure> and save the file. Then select all the files and re-zip them, I use 7-zip for that.
I found one other weird thing that doesn't happen 100% of the time, so test it. In the example above, try to get a score of exactly 80% (or whatever passing grade you are using) and see if you get the correct status reported. I found I sometimes have to re-edit that line in the manifest file to be 0.79 so it correctly includes an exact 80% score. No idea why and you have to watch the number of questions in your quiz to make sure that works for you mathematically.
If this works or not, I'd recommend posting your results so others can get some ideas. Good Luck!!

LSO - Course follow up

Hi,
In LSO_PV15 there are two fields namely 1) Participation confirmed (field = CONFIRMED) and 2) Course Passed (field= PASSED). I suppose the field 'Participation confirmed' refers to learners attended the course and the 'course passed' refers to the course test results (=Passed, failed or Not rated). In our organisation, for delivery method 'Classroom training' we do have test results so course pass/fail is not applicable. In the follow up screen the 'Rate participation' step is mandatory whithout which the course cannot be followed up. If I select the course pass as 'Not Rated' the follow up screen rasies an error message 'Unevaluated participant cannot be followed up'. Any ideas as to how to work around this?
The IMG documention says
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Pass/Fail issue with Quiz and Click Buttons

Got a complicated one for ya!
I have a project that has about 100 quiz questions. I want to add slides with an image for backgrownd, a voice over and a "Click Button" to be used like a Simulation. If the "Click Button" is not clicked on, I want the slide to act like a Quiz and be marked as wrong.
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I am trying to track pass/fail on a Captivate project and I
am having difficulties with the LMS. It is tracking as completed
after just the first slide, before even taking the quiz. I have my
quiz settings set to report "Quiz results only", Pass/Fail, Report
to LMS as Percent, Reporting level is "Report Score", the Pass/Fail
options are set to 75%.
NOTE: I have allowed the user 2 attempts to pass. Could this
be what's giving me trouble?

Look at the Project > Advanced Interaction panel and see
if you have
score values setup throughout your lesson as you should.
It sounds like perhaps you have a low number of scored
interactions and
that 75% is being met as soon as they answer the first
question
correctly? Compare the Advanced Interaction results to your
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BriarPatch1 wrote:
> I am trying to track pass/fail on a Captivate project
and I am having
> difficulties with the LMS. It is tracking as completed
after just the first
> slide, before even taking the quiz. I have my quiz
settings set to report
> "Quiz results only", Pass/Fail, Report to LMS as
Percent, Reporting level is
> "Report Score", the Pass/Fail options are set to 75%.
>
> NOTE: I have allowed the user 2 attempts to pass. Could
this be what's giving
> me trouble?
>
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I am using Labview 6.1 and Test Stand 2.0
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I'm using the COM adapter to talk TestComplete application.
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http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/tut/p/id/4302
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I'm looking for the most obvious and simple way to, from Labview :
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http://zone.ni.com/reference/en-XX/help/370052N-01/tsexamples/infotopics/executing_sequences_using_api_labview/
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I tried to work from this example :
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NI TestStand 4.2 Release Notes: Using Expressions to Customize Report File Paths
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After firmly booking the course, follow-up screen is in display mode. I am not able to select pass/fail/reason for fail on the follow-up screen. Also, qualifications are not getting transferred to the participants (IT0024), after follow-up is done.

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Classroom Training     Back End     D     Follow Up Participation (with Proficiency Change)
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Is is possible to restrict courses in a course catalog according to Organizational unit. In the system we can restrict users to specific courses through structural authorization, but is it possible to maintain authorizations on Organizational units for LSO Courses or course types.
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Disappering is the right behavior. On delivery method WBT participant type 'O' cannot be booked because WBT can be only accessed using Learning portal and Learning portal cannot be logged in using Org. Unit. So this is not possible for this release.
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