Lyric media Pan Zoom Pro

Anyone have experience with Lyric Media's Pan Zoom Pro plug-in? Thinking of ordering and wondering if you like it?

I believe they make good products.
I've used the company's draw tools, and they are excellent.
I try to do pan/zooms out of FCP using programs like PhotoToMovie and FotoMagico. But if you like working with the app, I believe this is a good product.
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best wishes
david

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Pan Zoom Pro experience

Anyone had experience with Lyric's Pan Zoom Pro? Good, bad, ugly, otherwise?

I have a tutorial on how to do it in FCP in a snap:
http://forums.creativecow.net/cgi-bin/pagewrapper.cgi?forumid=8&page=http://www.creativecow.net/articles/ross_shane/moveme nt_onstills/index.html
I also use After Effects if I am doing any funky moves or bluring out backgrounds.
I have tried Moving Image...and that is pretty slick with the Ease In and Ease out. I have also tried Lyrics PAN & ZOOM and felt it wasn't all that. I could do the same with FCP built in motion.
Shane

Pan & Zoom plug-in experience

Anyone have any experience or review of the Pan & Zoom plug-in from stagetools.com (moving pictures) versus lyric.com (pan zoom pro? There is a significant difference in price.

I did the "search thingy" and it wasn't helpful. That's why I axed the question. < </div>
"Helpful" or just too much information for you to bother with?
My search for your term "pan and zoom" returned about 2,000 posts. I qucily cruised through about fifty within two minutes that referred directly to specific products or that mentioned "I like this one" or "This one stinks."
Most of the posts, truthfully, were similar to yours, someone asking for advice on what plugin they should consider buying for what should be a simple and elegantly fun task within FCP.
Here's my advice: "Buy After Effects. You'll never need another plugin for FCP."
bogiesan

Pan & zoom for stills

Has anyone tried CoreMelt's ImageFlow Fx V2 in FCE? There are always a lot of questions about how best to handle slideshows in FCE without tedious keyframing. This plug-in looks like it would save a ton of time doing Ken Burns effects. US$129
http://www.coremelt.com/products/v2/imageflow-fx-v2.html
I also saw a free plug-in from Noise Industries - Fx Factory Freebie called Pan & Zoom 2.
http://www.noiseindustries.com/fxfactory/panandzoom/
Anyone have any experience with either of these options for photo slideshows?

Carolyn,
I use Lyric's Pan Zoom Pro. Works from within the FC Express Video Generator and is easy to use. Cost is $50. and worth every penny to me. You can download a demo version to try out.
http://www.lyric.com/fcp-plugins/index.htm#pzp
Michael

Which software for panning & zooming on artwork?

I need to insert some graphics of artwork into a project, and need to pan & zoom. I've tried MovingPicture from Stage Tools but I find I can't achieve a constant panning speed after a ramp, and I also get jaggy verticals. I believe After Effects will do the job, but I don't have it. Is Motion the software I should be using? Or is there another solution? I presently have FC Studio installed.
Many thanks
John
G4 Quicksilver 867, G4 Powerbook 1.67 Mac OS X (10.3.9)

I have just bought the Lyric Media Pan & Zoom software and it is FANTASTIC. ( ....as far as a plug-in goes).
The motion tool in FCP is horrendous for ease in / out, & adds a hiccup to the motion if you convert "center" to ease in / out. This plug-in ($49) allows for huge soft splines (beziers) and real nice movement to the footage or photo.
No idea how this compares to AE, but it gets you out of the woods fast!
Check it out: http://www.lyric.com/fcp-plugins/panzoompro/pzp.htm
Mas OSX G5 dual 2.3 / 4.5 gb ram Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Pan & Zoom multilayered PSDs. Help needed

Hi All,
I've got an edit I need to finish pronto then another one this coming monday and need to get some questions answered before then or in serious trouble!
Additional details: Running FCP 5
We have a client that wants to do an animatic (motion graphic add)
He want's to be able to import a multilayered photoshop image WHILST keeping the original image quality, if the dimensions are above 720x576 (I edit in UK therefore PAL pixel dimensions), so you can pan and zoom across the image while simultaneous fading up and down and moving certain layers.
I was originally going to edit it on an Avid Adrenalin but found out that you can do some but not all of these things without great difficulty. SO am therefore going to edit on my FCP suite.
I tried last night to import a multilayered photoshop image and made it double the normal 16x9 PAL pixel dimentions (which are 1204x576) making it 2048x1152.
Doing this I hoped it would let me try and achieve a pan & zoom effect, but I found that it distorted the aspect ratio of the clip.
Making it squashed, even though my new project that I had set up was Pal DV Anamorphic (16x9). It dispalayed the newly created large psd as eveen more anamorphic - more like cinema scope!!
I looked it the motion tap and the distort aspect ratio in the motion tab was zero.
I then did a test:
flattened the psd, changed the image size to 1024x576.
I then imported that and all was fine, it imported it at the correct ratio.
Also major question.
Is FCP able to handle these graphics easily.
When I import them and insert them into the new seq I can set that seq to Unlimited RT low playback to see the move easily.
But when I open the nest that has all the layers it wont let me set RT settings, it only displays a few options, none that allow me to view in low res.
The client wants to edit in DV not lower so cant do motion jpg offline res.
He also needs the large images, eg we pan across a models hair only to fade up a layer of a product appearing in her hand.
I don't know After Effects well enough to attempt the edit on that, and I don't know motion at all.
The photographer/ client says he's done all his previous edits in FCP.
Is there an article I could read or is there any advise anyone can give me about approaching this project?
Minimizing render time, work flow etc
Has anyone used Lyric Media's Pan Zoom Pro?? (Or was that used by people with FCP 4 and now FCHD can acheive Pan & Zooms really well???)
Thanks anyone for the help!!!!
d

Tom/ anyone else who can help,
(note: also posted on 2pop erlier, just incase Tom/anyone else read that one, saving you the trouble of reading twice!)
Sorry back again,
very nearly sorted after breakthrough last night.
Just need to clear up one more thing:
An FCP editor mate says he keeps the graphics he's given high res i.e. 300dpi, he says you can zoom in and keep the quality.
Can fcp handle bigger image resolutions? I know it can only go up to 4000 pixels squared but what dpi can it go up to. I always thought it would only work in 72 dpi.
Before finding about about fcp being able to handle higher than 72dpi, after numerous tests and conversations with you, I'd come to the conclusion that:
If designing in Photoshop for Final Cut Pro
If you don't use photoshop's PAL DV presets take this into consideration:
In graphics for 4:3 FCP projects:
768x576 convert to 720x576
1536x1152 convert to 1440x1152
always divide graphics width in photoshop by:
1.06666666667
In graphics for 16:9 FCP projects:
1024x576 convert to 720x576
2048x1152 convert to 1440x1152
always divide graphics width in photoshop by:
1.42222222222
I'm not sure of the actual size of the images the client is going to give me & I desperately don't want to get into the problem I had yesterday of distorted aspect ratios when importing to FCP.
The only question is
If he gives me a photo that's 300dpi I'm going to have a problem with knowing exactly what size the image will be in photoshop regarding rescaling etc.
When he gives me the graphics, I'll check the dimetions in photoshop.
I should check if it's a rectangular or suare pixel doc first correct?
My thinking is that it'll be square pixel coming from a digital camera, and we'll prob work in 4:3 (i've just been given video rushes to combine with the edit at 4:3 res)
Regarding the graphics,
Should I work in a high res and keep the pixel dimentions as high as I need up to 4000pix squared or should I keep it at 720x576 and keep the res high?
FCP works better with images at 720x576 they don't need rendering regardless of the dpi?? ANd also when you step into the PSD nest it gives you an option of Unlimited RT, it even has a dark green line in Safe RT.
Whereas when I work in images over 720x576, (say double that at 1440x1152) the PSD seq FCP creates when importing the multi-layered graphic has a red render line and won't let me work in Unlimited RT or Safe RT, it just gives the option of: 'use playback settings' or 'full quality'.
would it be good to create a photoshop template, so that I can drop the graphics I'm given into that, then manipulate it accordingly??
All advice welcome!!
Sorry finding if still finding it slightly confusing!
Almost there!!!!
thanks for reading
d

Please tell me you can use pan/zoom tool for photo slideshow with photos not cropped to screen?

I'm new to Mac and Premiere Elements (former PC/Sony Vegas Movie user), and am trying to do a Ken Burns type photo slideshow wherein my photos are left in their normal cropped state. Right now it seems all photos get cropped to fill the screen size (i.e. 16:9). I saw where you could uncheck the scale photo size to media (or something to that effect) under the general setting in preferences, but using the pan/zool tool still shows photos cropped to fill screen. I realize conflicting aspect ratio will result in black bars top/bottom or left/right of frame, and that's ok/what I want. I'm hoping this is doable? Thanks, Jim

jimdrought
The primary question that I have is what is the end product...DVD-VIDEO Standard on DVD disc, DVD-VIDEO Widescreen on DVD disc or other?
Let us assume for now DVD-VIDEO Widescreen on DVD disc. The next question that falls into line is the one relating to what you describe as an assortment of photos going into this project...what are the pixel dimensions (what range of...) and aspect ratio. For aspect ratio, are we talking 4:3 or 16:9. How many of these photos are landscape oriented or how many portrait oriented.
In generalities at this point, I would ask you to look at:
a. bringing your photos appropriately sized into a Premiere Elements project with an appropriate project preset.
b. leaving Edit Menu/Preferences/General with its Default Scale to Frame Size with a check mark.
c. in the workspace, scaling the photos to just fill the space in the Edit Mode Monitor
d. then one by one pan and zoom a photo with the Pan and Zoom Tool.
If you use this Tool, you should get good results. One consideration is that the process results in the Timeline photo having a much larger duration AFTER than BEFORE. If you see any pros in using this tool for your purposes, then you might want to explore the technique that I described for applying a pan and zoom effect from this Tool to more than one photo at a time.
http://www.atr935.blogspot.com/2013/05/pe11-pan-zoom-tool-more-than-one-photo.html
You also might want to explore fxEffects/Presets for horizontal and vertical pans or zoom. The catch in the presets is that you can apply a pan OR zoom, not a pan AND zoom to each photo.
Keyframing of Scale (for Zoom) and Position (for Pan) should be explored under Applied Effects/Applied Effects Palette/Motion Panel expanded/Scale and Position properties.
With more details from you, we could go step by step in any of the above.
We will be watching for your progress.
Thanks.
ATR

Ease in/Ease out is clunky for pan/zooms

I'm using FCP 5 with 10.5.6. When panning and zooming around in a still image (photo), I just can't get an easy landing or stop at the end of the motion, no matter how I adjust the ease in/ease out speed. After choosing Ease in/ Ease out on a keyframe, I shove the little blue speed-control bead toward or away from the keyframe along the motion path, but that distance is limited, and I see very little difference in the result. The motion still stops with a perceptible jerk or clunk.
I have used applications like Photo-to-Movie that have great control on the speed of pans and zooms, and the motion of a pan or zoom starts or stops very gently and almost imperceptibly. Photo-to-Movie costs only $25, so I can't see why an expensive professional program like Final Cut can't do the same thing. I can do smooth pan/zooms in PTM, export the result as a DV clip, and then drop the clip into Final Cut, but I can't adjust the motion within FCP. And working in an outside application to import the results is a real slow-down.
Assuming that the Ease in/Ease out control is all the control you have for smoothing pan/zooms in FCP, and it's inadequate, is there any plug-in for FCP 5 (free or at least inexpensive) that will produce gentle starts and stops?
Tom

Thanks for all the comments everyone, and thank you also Tom Wolsky for your great tutorial books and DVDs that have helped me to gain some competence with Final Cut. I recommend them highly to anyone learning the program.
To shed some light on the purpose of my original post, the project I'm working on contains both video footage and still images. In this video I'm demonstrating how to paint pictures, while using still images of historic paintings as examples of how the old-time painters did things, compared to what I'm doing now.
So in this video I alternate from live demonstrations of painting, to still images of old paintings, slowly panning and zooming around the old paintings and stopping to analyze portions of them.
I find that there is something comfortable and soothing about good pan/zooms as compared to the unsettling feelings and irritation caused by watching jerky starts and stops, with unnatural acceleration and deceleration between.
You have all made it clear to me (thanks again) that it is a matter of the mathematics involved in Final Cut's treatment of pan/zooms that makes it hard to get smooth movements of that type in FC. I still think it's odd that I can get wonderful pan/zooms from a cheapie little program like Photo-to-Movie but not a pro application like Final Cut, but at least PTM can get the job done for me, although it is a slowdown to have to use it. I first have to create the pan/zooms on still images in PTM and then export them as DV clips to drop into Final Cut. If a pan/zoom then needs adjustment, I have to throw the clip away, go back to PTM and modify the movement, and then export a fresh clip. Very slow.
By the way, I visited the Photo to Movie website, which I haven't done for a long time, and I see that the price of the program has now doubled to $50. The authors have apparently gotten big ideas and have added transitions, titles, and other kinds of editing besides just movement. On their demo webpage <http://tinyurl.com/yfej3j4> you can see sample pans and zooms created by the program. The third sample movie down from the top, with the zebras, shows some of the types of motion I'm after, such as the scene that zooms gently in on the turtle's head or the dog near the end of that movie. Note how smooth the starts/stops are.
In my own YouTube movie <http://tinyurl.com/yh8hl38>, which I created in Final Cut in 2008, the paintings that leap out at you with music at the beginning were also created in Photo to Movie and dropped into Final Cut. In that case the motion is almost violent, and no doubt I could have done it just as easily in Final Cut, but at that time I was new to keyframing in Final Cut and had gotten so accustomed to the ease of doing such things in PTM that I used it for that too. A few minutes further along in that video you can see the kind of gentle pan/zooming by PTM that I'm trying to create again now in a new video. My failed attempts to do it in Final Cut a couple days ago are what led me to ask for help here.
Maybe if I can gain a better grasp of Motion 2 I could do better with it than my first attempt yesterday, and I could also also round-trip between Motion and Final Cut to quickly adjust the movements, but I just don't know the program well enough yet to do that. I'll search for tutorials and demo movies on Motion. Someone above has also said that Motion 2 is inferior to version 3 in this respect, and I don't have 3, so I guess I'm stuck with Photo to Movie for the present to get smooth pan/zooms.
Thanks again everyone for all the enlightenment on this subject.
Tom B.

Imported Photo's from media pane within iMovie no longer centered?

Hi, I am using iMovie 6.0.3 to build a slideshow within iMovie. I am using the media pane within iMovie to access and import my photos from iPhoto. The photos are of various sizes, they have been cropped in iPhoto and work well as a slideshow in iPhoto. When i import them into iMovie the photos are no longer centered.... they are oriented to the left and up with asymetrical letterboxing and cut off heads. I need to bring in over 400 photo's and dont want to have to go and recenter/crop each photo from within iMove..... shouldn't they remain centered when i bring them in?
Thanks
Chuck

Welcome to the forum, Chuck.
It sounds like the Ken Burns Effect may need to be re-centered. By default, Ken Burns centers the image. But if Ken Burns has been set to crop a photo off-center, that's how future photos will arrive.
To re-center the start/end positions, turn ON the Ken Burns checkbox. Stop the preview. Click on the Start side of the Start/End thingy. Drag the Zoom slider—the top slider—a bit to the right, then all the way to the left. Repeat for the End side of the thingy. Now Import the image. New imports should now arrive centered, as you wish.
Karl

Cannot add Movie to Media Pane

I edited a project with Chapter markers in Final Cut Pro X and exported it to a .mov file on my external drive. I added the folder to the media movie pane however the movie does not show up in the movie media pane.

Hi
Not familiar with - FinalCut Pro-X - but the rest of them up to FCE 4.0.1 and FCP 6.0.6.
I added the folder to the media movie . . . . . . .
So this is bit of a mystery to me as I do in FinalCut
• Export as a QuickTime .mov file (NO QuickTime conversion AT ALL)
• this .mov file I drop into the iDVD Menu Pane and move it to a good location then rename it HERE to what's relevant
I too had a movie that did not work today
- going back to FinalCut and - Sequence - Render Only -> Mix-down Audio
- then Render All - Both
- Export as QT.movie again
THEN
- Starting a BRAND NEW iDVD Project (IMPORTANT - as it hinders the iDVD BUG especially bad when Chapters are used)
- and now the QT.movies needed was added nicely
Hopefully it makes any sense to You or others who knows FCP-X will fill in.
Yours Bengt W

Ken Burns pan/zoom tutorial?

I need to pan and zoom around smoothly on some still images of old paintings in my Final Cut project (I have Final Cut Pro 5 and Motion 2). I'm fairly competent with Final Cut, but new to Motion. Does anyone know of any tutorials, either written or video, in a book or on the Web, that might explain to me how to do smooth pan/zooms in Motion, i.e. Ken Burns type stuff? (The Apple manual for Motion that came with the Studio suite puts me to sleep, and I can't seem to find the info I want in it anyway).
Thanks for any help.
Tom

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&hs=rbC&rls=en&q=kenburns+apple+motiontutorial&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
-DH

Pan & Zoom Not Working in PP4

Using PP CS4 with 8 years experience with Premiere, am having trouble with this effect. Effect Controls > Motion > Position & Scale controls are all there but the resizing for keyframes is not having any visible effect in either Source or Program monitors. The clip remains exactly as it was imported at full, uncropped view. Please help. Thx

Just for clarification, are you using the Pan & Zoom for a SlideShow in Encore, or are you using the Fixed Effects>Motion>Scale & Motion>Position in PrPro?
If the latter, then I would post to the PrPro CS4 and Earlier Forum.
In the meantime, and in case you ARE encountering this issue in PrPro, let's go over the steps to do Pans & Zooms in the Effects Control Panel.
First, in your Timeline, Select your Still Image (or Video Clip).
If not in focus, get Effects Control Panel open and in front in its Pane.
Place the CTI (Current Time Indicator) /Playhead at the first Frame of that Still/Clip.
Look at the Fixed Effects list in Effects Control Panel, and for Motion, twirl that Open, to reveal both Scale and Position. Twirl those Open, to reveal their sliders.
For a Zoom, click the little Stopwatch icon next to it, to toggle Keyframe animation ON, and place a Keyframe on that First Frame.
At this point, that Keyframe will have a value of 100%, or original size. If one needs to adjust that, say for a Zoom Out to full Scale, but needs to start Zoomed In, set it to where you wish to start.
Move to the time (on the Timeline, or on the mini-timeline in Effects Control Panel - the CTS's are linked), where you want the Zoom Out to end, and click the New Keyframe button, the filled circle in the ◄●► icon. A new Keyframe is added at that spot. Now, adjust the Scale to what is desired there.
One can adjust the Interpolation between those Keyframes, if desired, but that is something that one will be better off, if they read the full section on Keyframe Interpolation in the Help Files.
If one wishes to add a Pan, then the same process is repeated, but for the Fixed Effect>Motion>Position.
Good luck, and hope that helps,
Hunt

Mouse cursor dissapears in The Pan|Zoom component

When using the Pan|Zoom component found at http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/samples/fig_panzoom/ inside a mx:Window in my AIR application, the custom mouse cursors (draghandOpen, draghandClosed) are not shown. The mouse cursor just dissapears when rolling over the ImageViewer.
From the Pan|Zoom code:
                case "mouseOver":
                    // cursors
                    if (_client.viewRect.containsRect(_reciever))
                        CursorManager.removeAllCursors();
                    } else
                        CursorManager.removeAllCursors();
                        cursorID = CursorManager.setCursor(_iconHandOpen);
This works fine when running the source at http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/samples/fig_panzoom/ as an AIR application. Why won't it work in a mx:window?

I found the solution here: http://butterfliesandbugs.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/how-to-get-a-custom-cursor-in-an-air-wi ndow/
The problem was fixed by changing CursorManager.setBusyCursor() to myAIRWindow.cursorManager.setBusyCursor();

I can't change the pan / zoom duration in Premiere Elements 13

Ok I'm getting really frustrated especially after I just watched a video tutorial which clearly shows how to do this in Premiere Elements 10 and I have JUST purchased version 13!
What I'm not able to adjust is the speed or duration between focus frames in a pan / zoom; after it's set up.
You are supposed to be able to go into the PAN TOOL, and either click on the pan duration, or in the In the Pan Time dialog, scrub the time duration to the desired value, or enter a value in the dialog box, OR simply adjust / drag the focus frame markers in the timeline (like in the video tutorial I watched...) to change the pan duration. In my software at least NONE of these work. (All these from: Adobe Premiere Elements Help | Pan and zoom to create video-like effect)
I can't click on the pan duration, well if I do nothing happens, I can't even get a Pan Time Dialog box; so I can't do it that way; and lastly I can't click and adjust the focus frame markers in the timeline....none of it works and I can hardly believe that this is correct...the only way that I can adjust the pan time, is to delete the effect completely and start it over...this can't be correct can it??
Any help would be appreciated!!!

Ok yep you are great, so I'm sorry I'm attempting to do it on video clips, not stills.
I was aware that the last versions of PE had similar Pan and Zoom workspaces, that's why I knew or thought I knew that my situation could be solved.
The first link that you recommend is exactly where I got the third paragraph of my question, so I had already reviewed that and to me when you read the directive it still makes it sound like you can adjust the focus frame markers....? (very confusing)
The second link you sent might have helped me realize that the tool doesn't work the same way for Stills and it does for Video clips; (I really think like on the Adobe web site this difference should be markedly more clear to help with confusion; but in their defense maybe it's me being slow to understand)
I was able to figure out some of the difference through perseverance last night, and did figure out (like your last link explains) that you can move the CTI and then add a new focus frame...BUT I still have my original question...how can you adjust the pan duration on a video clip after it's been made and you have left the pan and zoom tool like if you want to edit that timing... I think the answer is that you can't lol, I think it has to be deleted or a new focus frame added and the other deleted to adjust the timing...am I correct?
This quote is taken from the Adobe web site one of the links you shared
You can work with focus frames in videos the same way that you work with focus frames for images. However, only those options that are relevant to movie clips appear in the pan and zoom tool.
I think maybe the last sentence is attempting to explain that but it's just so ambiguous...
Just trying to figure it out! I do appreciate your help!

What's the best webcam for Mac with tilt/pan/zoom?

I am trying to find a good quality webcam to use for videoconferencing with my Mac (MacBook Air actually). The camera is to be positioned on the 60-inch screen on the wall in our boardroom so the built-in Facetime camera doesn't do the job. It needs to have tilt/pan/zoom (in software). When I started on this search I had no idea such a thing was going to be so hard to find. There is no shortage of such products for Windows but I can't find a single one for the Mac.
There are a lot of webcams that claim to support Mac but on closer investigation not a single one of them (that I've found so far anyhow) provides any conrol features like tilt/pan/zoom - nor even brightness and contrast control for that matter. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places because it's hard to believe the Mac world really is lacking such products. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Would be much appreciated.

You're most welcome, Julie.
dreamdoc wrote: ... I don't have a cam corder, but that's a great solution ...
If you are still shopping, you might be able to find a compatible used camcorder at a local store that sells used cameras or electronics. One with a failed tape mechanism that otherwise works would likely be very low priced. The same store may also have compact tripods.
Because your MBA is so portable, it is easy to take with you so you can test any camcorder before you buy to be certain it meets your needs.
dreamdoc wrote:... I also appreciate the reminder to close out my inquiry...
Per the Respond to answers tutorial page, you decide when to mark an answer that "solves your question."
I certainly did not intend any reminder. As a user like you, I have not authority to remind or otherwise instruct you about your participation in Discussions. As explained in ¶ 1.11 of Apple Support Communities - Terms of Use, the Apple Hosts would be the ones who would address any concerns with you if necessary.
Have fun shopping!
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