Mac SE FDHD fails to boot

I have a Mac SE I upgraded to a Mac SE FDHD with 4 MB of RAM. I installed a bunch of updates for Mac OS 7.1 and now it won't boot. First I installed System Update 3.0 and it still worked. Afterwards I installed the CFM-68K Runtime Enabler and it still worked. I then installed the thread manager and it still worked. It wasn't until I installed the Drag and Drop package that I started getting bomb errors at startup when attempting to start with extensions off. Here's the exact error message:
Sorry, a system error occurred.
"System"
bad F-Line instruction
To temporarily turn off extensions, startup and hold down the shift key. Which is what I was obviously already trying to do. There was also a restart button in the bomb error dialog box.

Craigwd_2000
The usual happenstance is that the FPU is needed, and called, and answereth not because it isn't there. System then grizzles that there is an error. What is the puzzle is whaffor is Drag and Drop calling upon the FPU? This is a startup error, and the FPU is not implicated in startup.
However, it isn't even that logical. 'No FPU' is sometimes a genuine assessment by the Mac, especially when PPC code is emulating a 68k (actually a 68LC040, ie with no FPU). It's also a frequent occurrence that the error in native 68k working is often simply that the Mac can think of no other excuse for falling over. On the principle of 'last in, first suspected', it may be worth your while to decode the Drag and Drop file again, or to download the Drag and Drop again. Drag and Drop does contain some native PPC code.
When you say that you upgraded from SE to SE FDHD, do you mean an 'official' upgrade involving logic board (and ROMs) as well as drive(s)? You did the necessary 'resizing' with the resistor or jumper when you added RAM?

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