Macbook heating issues

I experienced where my macbook pro with retina get overally hot underneath and on the od occassions this sound of air gushing out occures as if it cooling it down, anyone else experienced this?
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sorry had 2 posts mix up which caused heading title to be wrong! (
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  • Fixing the macbook heat issue

    Hi,
    There is a fairly simple solution, to at least reduce the risk of damaging your macbook by letting it run at high temps. I bought my 2.0GHz macbook over the weekend, it was idling around 70 - 75 C. Thats a little high in my book.
    I put the macbook on the vantec lap2cool laptop cooler that I have for my AMD64 HP laptop. Within about 30 minutes of running, the macbook was running between 42 C (idle) and 60 C (being taxed). Now the vantec is pretty cool, but its a little bulky for the little macbook.
    I picked up a targus cooler for about $24 at the local walmart, its keeping it idle around 48 C, and under normal conditions (text mate, iTunes, Firefox, Thunderbird) its running around 54 C. The targus cooler is pretty quiet, slim, but a little cheap. They sell some high-powered solutions on newegg.com with better CFM and higher RPMs.
    Now I'm sure a lot of typical mac users are going to have a fit about using a laptop cooler that makes the macbook a little bulker, but its way better than the damage your going to do to the macbook by running it hot on a daily basis!!

    Intel processors (at least recent ones) are well known for having heat related issues. AMD processors offer better price/performance with reduced energy consumption and output. My HP zv5000z which is AMD64 based, has two large fans on the base, and kicks off a fair amount of heat exhaust. That however is heat thats NOT in my system. If I use it for games, then I'd be crazy not to have it hooked up to the Vantec Lap2Cool.
    Apple in my opinion are taking a bit of a gamble. They've had to trade-off heat issues, performance with keeping the system quiet. To me, kicking the fans in on the macbook is a last ditch attempt to keep the system from keeling over, hence the loud noise (high RPM fans). What Apple is likely gambling over is that most users will run the machines in a "cool place" and the average user won't tax the system. Your business, designer, etc types aren't going to be playing games on it. They are gambling that the system will hold up to the level of heat abuse until the warranty runs out, or you purchase AppleCare. Either way, I assume they don't lose money.
    In terms of melting, I seriously doubt you'll see physical melting of the system. What you are more likely to see is heat related damage to electric components (either the processors themselves) or surrounding components, resulting in system failure (or odd issues like display problems, random crashes etc). Lets just say its in the best interest of the health of your system to keep it cool.
    The fact that Apple has corrected this on the MacBook Pros with firmware / hardware changes, would suggest there is some teething issues with the move over to Intel, and perhaps a shift in the type of customers buying the macbook.
    With the market being so competitive, do you really think Apple is going to say -- "Hey these Macbooks look nice, but they overheat, you need to get Apple Care because they'll fail sooner than expected, and you should buy a laptop cooler to extend the life of the product". This adds what $300.00 to the price of the laptop, thats already slightly higher than lightweight options from vendors such as Dell, HP etc. When you go to the Apple Store and the person working there insists that you should buy Apple Care because the system is going to fail sooner rather than later, that tells you something right there.
    Now if a laptop cooler keeps the system running between 43 C and 60 C instead of 60 C and 90 C, then aside from your own comfort with the thing on your lap, keeping the system cool is a good idea. Unless you like to return things to the Apple store?

  • MacBook Heat Issues

    Today I received my MacBook (1.83 GHz).
    I have had it sitting on a flat stable surface, as Apple tell you to, for the last 5 hours.
    The hinge is hot to touch which is fair enough.
    However the left hand side where all the sockets are is also hot to touch.
    It feels like warm air coming up between the keys on the keyboard.
    Sitting typing this at my iMac I can feel the heat on my arm from the MacBook sitting beside me just as if I was sitting beside a fire.
    I think it would not be possible to use it for a whole day in the same way as all my other computers.
    I tried turning the Energy Saver settings down from performance as they suggest. This has made a slight improvement but I would expect to be able actually type at the keyboard in Normal setting instead of having to go to reduced power.
    Before anyone asks, yes I did check the vent for the plastic.
    Is this the same kind of experience others are having with the MacBook?
    I'm going to give it a full test of sitting on my desk powered up all day tomorrow and then see about sending it back.
    MacBook 1.83 GHz   Mac OS X (10.4.6)  

    I agree the MacBook get very very hot underneath in the upper left quadrant. It's not too hot to touch but I would venture to say that if this MacBook were to be on the bare skin of a child it will hurt them or cause them to shed/thro/drop the MacBook to the floor in a hurry at the very least.
    I've been running Front Row to view shared iTune's purchased TV Videos on my LR TV set for several hours. My iTunes server is my PowerMac G5. The base of the MacBook is very very hot during this playback and is certainly not comfortable residing on my lap.
    It's debatable whether Apple will do anything about this (if they even can) until someone clearly hurts themselves and it becomes public knowledge.
    This is a shame as the overall MacBook is a wonderful product IMO. However, this is one flaw that cannot be ignored.

  • MacBook Heat Issue

    Most of the time my MacBook runs at the normal 2000 RPM, but maybe once every month or two I'll notice it's running at the max of 6000 RPM. The unit is definitely warm, but the CPU usage is zilch, no processes are out of the ordinary and the same few apps are running that run on it every day, and actually none of them are in use.
    The only solution I've found is to turn it off and let it cool down for a couple of hours, then it's fine again for another month or two. What could be causing this? If something is causing it to get excessively hot, will the computer automatically shut down before doing any damage? I've configured iStat Pro to show me the various component temps it monitors, so maybe this will give me a clue in the future.
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    First, if you were using a program that causes high CPU/GPU usage, then the fans may have to run at higher speed to cool off the computer. However, after quitting such a program the fans may continue running until the computer has been adequately cooled.
    Now, if this is not the case then you may have a runaway process. When you note the high temperatures occurring open Activity Monitor. Select All Processes from the Processes drop down menu, then click twice on the CPU column to display in descending order. Any process uses a high amount of CPU time will appear at the top of the list. Note any process using a lot of CPU time, then select the process, click on the Quit icon in the AM toolbar, then click on the Force Quit button. When the process is killed you should note the computer's temperature should start falling and the fan slowing down.
    You will then need to determine what is causing this particular application to be a problem. It may be damaged, have a damaged preference or cache file, or be incompatible with Leopard. In any case you will need to track down the cause, and avoid using it until you do.

  • After several repairs, still having heating issue with MacBook Pro (mid '09)

    EDIT: this post got removed the first time for not being constructive enough. I've now edited the post.
    This is going to be a lengthy post, so bear with me.
    2 months ago, I suddenly noticed my MacBook Pro (medio 2009, 15", 4GB RAM, GeForce 9400M) heating up a lot harder than usual. I'm familiar with the heating issues these laptops have, but this wasn't normal. Looking at iStat Pro, I saw my fans almost taking off like an airplane at 5700 rpm, while watching only a livestream on my browser. I know Shockwave Flash takes up quite a chunk of your CPU, but I had never encountered this problem beforehand.
    The biggest problem wasn't just the heat or the fans, but the fact that my computer also started reacting rather slowly. Sometimes I'd even get beachballed, or the whole browser stopped responding for half a minute...
    So I tried to see if gaming was still an option. Of course not. I had been playing League of Legends for several months without any issues. Whilst playing, I'd kick up my fans manually to about 4000 rpm, and they'd stay there throughout the whole game. Now, when I start up the game, it plays smoothly for the first 2 minutes. After the temperatures rise to a critical level, the fans start spinning up to 5700 rpm, and the whole game plays like a powerpoint presentation.
    On a sidenote: it sort of 'lags' every 1-2 seconds, and sometimes, after a long period, the game acts somewhat normal again (20 mins). This game uses wine to run, which isn't the most optimal way. So I tried playing Team Fortress 2, too. Probably even worse results! (but again noticeable 1-2 second interval lags)
    Before anyone starts screaming: "Don't use your Mac for gaming!" etc., I wish to point out that these two games had been running perfectly for the past few months/years. Something's definitely wrong.
    After looking for some solutions myself, I decided to go to an authorized Apple Service in my city. A few days later, they told me my logic board was broken, and I had to pay almost 700 euros ($ 900-1000) to replace it. So I did. I got it back, but it wasn't fixed. Brought it back in. Got it back a week later: "Your new logic board we got from Apple was already broken, but we hadn't noticed. We put a new one in it. It's fixed." Again, same problem.
    We're almost 2 months later and 700 euros poorer, still no result. I've brought it in about 6-7 times now, here's a list of what they've tried so far:
    - In total 3 new logic boards
    - New MagSafe (because they discovered it was giving too much power too my laptop)
    - Fresh re-install
    - Replaced RAM
    - Checked fans etc. (they do this by default)
    - A few tests which proved that it was repaired (but I have my doubts with these tests...)
    They told me now that it's fixed, and they basically won't look into it anymore. I must contact Apple myself, if I wasn't satisfied. The tests they performed showed no signs of heating issues. (One of the tests was playing 4 1080p movies at the same time. When I watch a 1080p movie on Youtube, my laptop is taking off like a plane) They ran a stress test all night long, showing no temperatures above 98°C. I got it up to 105°C in a few minutes according to iStat Pro.
    They advised me to install Mountain Lion, which would make the issues with "high-performance sites" go away. I haven't seen much improvement, though.
    This whole experience has been quite frustrating, especially now that I'm gonna need my laptop for University again. Isn't there anything I can do? I've paid almost 700 euros and missed my laptop for 2 months, without any results.
    I've got more information regarding the issues if needed, ask away. I'm getting desperate.
    I've been browsing around the support communites, and found that a lot of people are having issues since they upgraded to OS X Lion. Could this be the case? Should I try downgrading to Snow Leopard?
    I've also found a few topics on refreshing the cooling pasta on the heatsink. Would they have noticed any problems with this after replacing the Logic Board several times? Or should I check it myself? I'm not too keen on opening up my laptop myself...
    Nick.

    Thought of buying Parallels? Fusion?
    Might want to see if this gets moved to the MacBook Pro forum.
    I'd think Windows 8.1 is smart enough (what I use 90% time since the Dev Preview came out couple yrs ago it seems like) to find the driver.

  • Macbook Pro 13-inch, mid 2009. Heat Issues

    Hi!
    What can i do?
    I have a macbook pro 13" from 2009.
    The fans are always on 1999 RPM, they never go faster, not even when the computer reaches a temperature of 80° Celcius.
    As soon as I go to youtube to watch a video, the temperature goes up alot, but the fans stays at 1999 RPM and they refuse to go up. So the computer just gets warmer and warmer.
    So I downloaded a program called smcFanControl, and when i watch usually any video on youtube, the temperature goes up to around 64° Celcius with the fans running at around 3500 RPM.
    I can forget about watching ANY HD 720p video on youtube, because then the computers temperature reaches at least 70° Celcius even with the fans running at 4000RPM.
    I am SO sick of this heat issue.
    What can i do?
    The room I am in, isnt even warm. My sisters Sony Vaio is at 40° Celcius when watching the same HD 720p video.
    And this problem doesnt only occur when I watch HD videos, i get it no matter what video I watch on youtube. Highly annoying.
    Why cant my macbook pro control the fans automaticly? Is there any program that i can use so it controls the fans automaticly? Because I am SO tired of controlling the fans all the time, i need to control them when I go to youtube, when i go to expressen.se (Swedish news online), I need to control them when using videocall via skype, yeah almost all the time!
    Does anyone have the same problem? Or any idea what to do? It doesnt even matter if I'm downstairs in the livingroom where its really cold, I cant watch videos on youtube without the temperature reaching sickingly 80°celcius, or 64°Celcius with the fan running faster, which I have to do manually by the way.
    I would just love for my macbook to control them automaticly, I hate that i have to do it.
    Please help.
    I run Mac Os X 10.6.3 (Snow leopard), I have a 2,26 Ghz Macbook Pro 13 inch from mid 2009.
    SMC-version 1.47f2
    Please help,
    Kind regards

    Hi again PatrikK,
    The temperature that SMCFanControl reports itself is the CPU A temperature diode one from what I can see. As a test I ran SMCFanControl alongside Marcel Bresink's excellent shareware program "Hardware Monitor" , which provides much more detailed information about temperatures , speeds, power demand, etc etc, than SMC is able to do, to test this and the CPU A temp diode was certainly the closest to the Hardware Monitor readings. On the video pages of the Swedish newspaper site it was generally about 10ºC hotter than the CPU core temperatures, which were generally in the 60'sC, while the CPU A diode was in the 70'sC.
    So, with your CPU Diode temp at 80ºC the CPU core temps were probably only at about 70C, which, as I said, is about where the fan speeds actually usually start to increase under normal MacOSX control. (The algorithms used to determine fan speed in Macs aren't actually based on CPU temperature alone, but depend on the readings from various temperature sensors, together with measurement of electrical current draw etc, so no single CPU temperature is responsible)
    All in all, when I look back at your earlier post as well, I think your MBP is probably simply operating normally in the situations you mention. It certainly won't be doing it any harm (the maximum CPU core temperatures allowable for the 13" model are either 90ºC or 100ºC, depending on the actual procesor fitted, and this equates to a CPU A temperature diode - the one your software is measuring - of over 100ºC.) At 80º CPU A temperature the fans should only just be starting to increase, and you will find that they cut in quite aggressively from then on in, making sure that the core temperatures are not exceeded.
    So I don't think you need to worry about this situation in terms of the computer itself, though you should certainly be able to reduce the temperatures somewhat if you follow the approaches I mentioned with respect to Flash etc in my earlier post.
    If your concern is mainly comfort when using the computer, all I can suggest is that you follow Apple's own instructions about these computers being "notebooks", not "laptops", and when using it in a comparatively "high demand" situation such as watching flash videos use it on a desk, or do what I do and simply stick it on a thin plastic or wooden board when it is resting on my knees. There are all sorts of fancy "laptop cooler" devices out there that you can spend money on if you wish, with everything from powered fans to chemically based cooling processes, but I've always found that a light weight $2 plastic chopping board from Ikea does the job perfectly well in such situations!
    Cheers
    Rod

  • Do latest macbook pro's still have the heat issue? (7/10/06)

    wondering if the latest revisions of macbook pro still have the heat issue.. i heard the issue of the fan going off/on causing that 'whine' is gone and now the last thing holding me back from making the 'switch' is this heat dealy.

    My week 12 MBP has never had heat issues. It's fast, stable and comfortable to use.
    The case bottom of my 5+ year old TiBook gets hotter than the MBP. I've used a tilt stand for PowerBooks for years, both to reduce heat and because I prefer the typing angle.
    People are not getting burned. Really. If I were to charge a battery at the same time I'm running processes that load up both CPUs, the metal strip behind the function keys would get quite warm. It might be uncomfortable to touch (but doesn't have to be touched to use the computer). But it will not result in a physical burn, unless one loves discomfort enough to keep touching it for a protracted period. Even then, not a serious burn. A cup of coffee or tea is far more dangerous than a MacBook Pro.
    I've encountered several hot-running MBPs owned by people that I know in my local area. In each case, the problem was caused by software that was loading up the processors at full blast. One case was a runaway process that was initiated by software that was incompatible with the Intel processors. Another was caused by a stalled startup item -- again, software incompatible with the Intel CPU. In both cases, Migration Assistant had been used and the applications had not been updated for Intel compatibility.
    And still another case was a large collection of Widgets, some of which are badly written and load up the processors. Deactivating all but 3 or 4 Widgets made that computer run cool and quickly.
    Complaints about heat on this forum dropped dramatically after the last firmware update.
    If you want the most powerful notebook computer Apple has ever designed, get a MacBook Pro. I'm delighted with mine. No fix necessary, thank you.

  • Heating Issues for MacBook Pro (early 2011)

    Hi
    Am facing heating issues and am looking for what should be the ideal fan speeds for CPU Temp range
    My Mac Details
    MacBook Pro (13-inch Late 2011), Mac OS X (10.7.3)
    Processor : 2.8 GHz Intel Core
    Memory : 16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
    Storage : 750 GB SATA Disk
    Graphics : Intel HD Graphics 3000 512 MB
    My standard use is Mac with one VM (Win7) running.
    What I have observed is the Fan speed is generall ~ 2000 rpm for CPU temp range of 55 - 70 Deg C.
    Should the fan be spinnig faster as the base of the machine does become too hot for comfort to be working on Lap.
    Are there any apps that can help me run some tests to montor performance?
    Please help.
    Thanks
    Brijesh

    A MBP should not be used on your lap since your body will act as an insulator that will inhibit heat dissapation.
    Heat generated will be a function of the stress placed on  the CPU/GPU by the number and type of applications you have open.   Skype, video, games, and the like can result in temperatures that  approach and exceed 100 c.  There are internal sensors that will shut  down the MBP if it starts to over heat.
    The temperatures that you have reported are not unusual and are well within acceptable parameters for the MBP.  The fans will start to speed up, when the heat increases, as required.  Some users install fan control software, but I am of the opinion that what the Apple engineers have installed is satisfactory and need not be altered.
    You may encounter a runaway application as described in the following link.  Usually a restart will solve the issue.
    http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1473
    Ciao.

  • I have heat issues into MacBook pro after installing windows 8. when boot from windows ha've overheating. how can I fix it??

    Have heat issues into MacBook pro when boot from windows partition how can I fix it??

    panarpan wrote:
    Have heat issues into MacBook pro when boot from windows partition how can I fix it??
    Are you saying you're running Windows in BootCamp or Windows as a Virtual Machine? You can increase the fan speed on the Mac using smcFanControl and use the software OGELTHORPE recommended to observe improvements.
    smcFanControl is a Mac application and doesn't work in Windows, but if you set a higher minimum fan speed (which is how smcFanControl works) while running OS X, when you reboot into a BootCamp partition, that minimum speed tends to be carried over.

  • MacBook Pro Retina Heat Issues Screen Discolored

    I've been having major heat issues while using the Mac, mostly it has been heating up while playing games.  I have been using an external monitor and had the lid closed and when I opened the lid i saw the screen was discolored by the heat that was coming from under the keyboard?   The fan seem to be running full throttle most of the time using the discreet graphics card.
    Do I need to contact apple care?
    thanks

    Yes, you should contact Apple.

  • Whats happening with the  2011 macbook pro heating issue?

    Hi guys,
    I have a 2011 mbp 15" 2.2ghz and i am wondering  if the heating issue is affecting me?
    I tried seeing what my max temperature was...
    I played taken in hd and bourne ultamatim trailer  at the same time with 2 youtube video playing while plying modern combat.. i had around 85 celcius mark
    Is this normal?
    Do i need to get the Thermal Paste changed? whats the deal with this?
    Also I heard that apple disabled turbo boost, is that correct or false?

    one of the benefits of a laptop
    Laptop is a misnomer often applied to notebook computers.
    have Apple say their computers should not be used on my lap
    Notebook computers violate all basics of ergonomics to facilitate portability. Many users require more comfort than is achieved when using a notebook, which is why stands, external keyboards and mice are all offered by third party vendors to enhance the user experience of their notebook computer.
    No human being that has reasonably good posture habits should consider using their lap as a top for a portable computer.
    It makes my neck hurt just thinking about it........
    I can't believe that OSHA, Workman's Comp Insurance, etc., doesn't have rules against the improper use of notebook computers.....
    is supposed to be the ability to not be at a desk.
    One of the benefits of these computers is portability. Whether or not that is involves a desk is up to conditions at hand.
    Misuse of this portability does not negate the positve attributes that abound.
    If you don't want red marks on your lap, use the machine properly....
    For "laptop" users:
    http://safety.unimelb.edu.au/topics/ergonomics/office/laptop.html
    http://leedschildcare.proceduresonline.com/chapters/g_portable_comp.html

  • Major heat issues with first gen Macbook Pro

    It sure seems like I should be able to find an easy answer for this, but I can't.
    I have (I believe) a first generation Macbook Pro. 2ghz processor, 2gb of RAM (maxed), running 10.5.8.
    When running streaming videos on it, the temperature gets absolutely out of control. 194-200 degrees (F) for the CPU, and over 120 degrees on the bottom case. This is WITH the fans going at almost 6,000 RPM, and the computer is elevated at the corners in order to allow for airflow underneath.
    There's a lot of separation between the top and bottom pieces near the bottom left of the computer (the corner near the Z key), if that means anything. What the heck is happening here, and can I do anything to fix this without spending hundreds of dollars at a repair shop?

    can I do anything to fix this without spending hundreds of dollars at a repair shop?
    User Tip: How to deal with MacBook Pro and MacBook heat?
    Apple Portables: Resetting the System Management Controller (SMC)
    Do-It-Yourself Laptop Repair
    FixYa
    Computers
    Check YouTube's "Macbook Pro Troubleshooting" and "How To" video tutorials.

  • April 2010 MacBook Pro Heat issues.

    My first post and first Mac, so please be patient....
    MCP 15" HiRes glossy, Intel i7, 500G 7200rpm HD, (you know the rest)
    I had bought my MBP in late April, the machine is great had no issues at all outperformed any comparable machine I put it up against. After having it a couple weeks I decided to push the video card a bit to see how it handled gaming. I reopened my World of Warcraft account and noticed a great deal of heat being put off by the machine(too hot to touch above function keys). For days I read forums on both Apple and World of Warcraft to see if the heat output is normal or not.
    Things unclear to me are what exactly is Apple, Nvidia, and Intel claiming to be normal operating heat levels? (Exact temps please, I monitor using istat)I am running World of Warcraft between 160 F and 170 F and occasionally in the 180's with the frame rate dummied down to 30 fps and some other settings reduced. I should not have to do that. Its used on a flat surface, no obstructions. I refuse to buy an extended warranty for a built in system killer such as heat(would rather return and pay less). Did a hardware test everything passed. Fans running normal between 2000 and 3000rpms during use. Like I said in the first sentence this is my first Mac and think this is a little too hot in my opinion, but I am no expert so if i am wrong please tell me. I love the notebook but am worried about the heat, and cannot afford to shell out another $2200 in a year or two for a notebook that over time failed from heat issues.
    I am coming from an HP ZD8000 with a 256mgb ATI video card that had only gotten a little bit luke warm at maximum settings and 60 fps in World of Warcraft, but that desktop replacement had 4 fans.
    Should I have Genius bar do a GPU test? or is this heat acceptable?

    Nate, welcome to Apple Discussions!
    In short, your temperatures are perfectly normal. In fact, they're a bit on the cool side. I assume you're reporting the CPU diode ("CPU") temperature using iStat? If so, the temps are completely and perfectly normal.
    170ºF is only 76ºC. The CPU is rated up to 105ºC (221ºF). If you've got the fans speeding up at that temperature then it is running perfectly normally. You've got a lot more room there before anything ever becomes damaged. And, rest assured, if the temperatures ever climbed to a point where damage is possible (I've never heard of that and I've been on these MBP forums for 2 years) then the machine will automatically shut itself off. There is no way that you could do damage to it with heat.
    Like I said in the first sentence this is my first Mac and think this is a little too hot in my opinion, but I am no expert so if i am wrong please tell me.
    You're wrong. It's perfectly normal. You don't need to be worried. They're designed to run warm under heavy load. People use these things for rendering and encoding video all day long. Yours will be just fine if you play Warcraft on it once in a while. Bump up the settings a bit too; I don't see why that would generate any more or less heat.
    I am coming from an HP ZD8000 with a 256mgb ATI video card that had only gotten a little bit luke warm at maximum settings and 60 fps in World of Warcraft, but that desktop replacement had 4 fans.
    Well, that's the problem. That thing was plastic, correct? And probably 2" thick? With huge fan vents on the back? The MBP is exactly the opposite of that. Metal conducts heat much better, and helps to cool the computer too. However, you also feel the heat more. The MBP is half the thickness of that thing, and doesn't have the vents either or the huge fans. All it means is it will heat up a bit more, but it's been designed just fine with that heat in mind.
    --Travis

  • Gaming issues and heat issues, running windows 8.1 pro via bootcamp

    I have a few problems, and I don't know what else to do, then to write for help here..
    I really hope someone out there can help me, because I have had this problem since I bought my laptop mid 2012, and I got smarter since then, so now I know that I actually shouldn't have these problems, it's not because my very expensive laptop is bad, or that it is a laptop or because it's a mac, regardless of what people say, I'm positively certain that it's a problem which shouldn't be there.
    I have pretty great specs, (trust me i checked them out, not the best in the world, but pretty good) yet I can't enjoy 1 single mmorpg game like, Tera, or the new Archeage (currently in open beta), or any other game, (swordsman online)... Even though people say Tera has bad coding, I have tried adjusting things for weeks if not months, NOTHING helps, i get a frame rate that is from 0-25 very unstable, usually around 7-12, and sure if I go the lowest settings in the games I can get very unstable framerates but i guess they can get up to around 35-72 but drops to like 7 or 3 sometimes as well, so even on the LOWEST settings in the games I can't enjoy the games fully... It lags and such because of the low fps ofc...
    Other than that it also have a heat issue, mostly when running windows 8.1 in bootcamp.
    It get's quite hot, just by opening a browser window, and yes i have tried reseting smc, and p-rams, many times.. nothing seems to help.
    And even if it helped the heat problem, the gaming problem is still there.
    Now to my specs: (I have the macbook pro retina, mid 2012, 15 inch)
    - Prosseser: 2.6GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 processor (Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz) with 6MB shared L3 cache. "Core i7" processor (3720QM)
    - Memory: 16GB 1600MHz DDR3L onboard memory
    - Storage: 256GB ssd flash storage. (Seperated into os x = 130GB, windows 8.1 pro = 120GB) Running games and such from my 1TB external harddisk.
    - Graphics and video support:
    Intel HD Graphics 4000
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1GB of GDDR5 memory and automatic graphics switching
    Dual display and video mirroring: Simultaneously supports full native resolution on the built-in display and up to 2560 by 1600 pixels on up to two external displays, at millions of colors.
    And here's a link to see what is inside it for yourself: http://http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/specs/macbook-pro-core- i7-2.6-15-mid-2012-retina-display-specs.html
    When that is said, apple's warranty has run out, and I didn't buy apple care, but I still have warranty from the store (humac) I bought it in, because in my country the law is warranty 2 years, no matter what, but if i can avoid it, I REALLY would like to avoid switching it out with a new one, since there could be problems all over again, and I would lose what I have on it right now, plus it's a hassle to get a new one, they will always try and fix it for a long long time before they give a new one, and probably can't find the problem...
    But if that's the only thing i can do about it, I will ofc, but just don't advise me to do that, unless there's no other solution to the problems.
    Please help me.
    ps: sorry if I posted it the wrong place, I wasn't allowed to post it the right place by apple...

    If the underlying hardware was exposed correctly by the CSM-BIOS when Windows was installed, your Device Manager should look like this.
    If the Windows installer did not see any devices as your screen indicates, Windows will use generic software-based drivers which will be very slow and painful.
    Rudegar ... I think the Windows installer did not see  any hardware, otherwise there should be HW with yellow triangles with exclamation marks.

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    My new MacBook runs continually at about 67-72 degrees temp while surfing and doing moderate work. When opening idvd it goes to 78-82 degrees. Is this too high? The bottom seems very warm. Thanks.

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    My notes: http://www.johnwaller.org/apple/macbook/

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