MacBook, Logic Pro 8 & MOTU 828mkII (FW400): int or ext 7200rpm drive?

Hi,
I think I'm finally ready to solidify my setup.
My question is:
Since the MacBook only has one FW400 jack, is it better to run and Logic's Content on an internal 2.5 7200 drive OR on the external firewire drive, which is daisychained through the MOTU 828mkII. Also, since the internal is 7200, would it be a good idea to record to it also?
The reason that I'm asking this is because I'm scared about latency between the ext drive and the interface.
Does anyone have a similar setup or knowledge on this type of situation? I'm wondering is updating my internal drive to a seagate 7200 160GB will be worth it.
Thanks in Adavance. Geoff

You're absolutely right. I have the same Saffire Pro and the same problems on all my Intel Macs.
Daisy chaining worked flawless on my older Powerbooks with the Same interface. Even copying a stupid file from a hard-drive while playing a stupid MP3 would let the Saffire go ape ;-(
I tried opening a support ticket but Focusrite said it was a normal issue because of the contention on the Firewire bus. I guess they apply double standards when it comes to Intel Macs, since there were no problems on PowerPC macs. There's something different about the Firewire chip on the Intel Macs, that's for sure.
I bought a RME Fireface 400 and this interface does not have the same problems.
See this article if you want to know more about Firewire audio chips:
http://www.rme-audio.de/ensupport_techinfo.php?page=content/support/en_support_techinfofirewire

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Build Info:      Logic-17005700~1
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Report Version: 9
Interval Since Last Report:          56937 sec
Crashes Since Last Report:           2
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Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   1
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6   com.apple.Foundation                    0x00007fff8e82674e -[NSThread main] + 68
7   com.apple.Foundation                    0x00007fff8e8266c6 __NSThread__main__ + 1575
8   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
9   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 3:: com.apple.CFSocket.private
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5afdf2 __select + 10
1   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x00007fff891efcdb __CFSocketManager + 1355
2   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
3   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 4:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5afbca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce69274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
2   com.apple.music.apps.MAAudioEngine          0x0000000103122140 CAudioFileBlockManager::GetBlock(MDFile const*, long, int) + 2064
3   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
4   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 5:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5ae67a mach_msg_trap + 10
1   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5add71 mach_msg + 73
2   com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI           0x00000001016d95be XServerMachPort::ReceiveMessage(int&, void*, int&) + 96
3   com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI           0x00000001016fa653 MIDIProcess::RunMIDIInThread() + 207
4   com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI           0x00000001016da96a XThread::RunHelper(void*) + 10
5   com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI           0x00000001016da396 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 98
6   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
7   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 6:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5afbca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce692a6 _pthread_cond_wait + 890
2   com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore          0x00007fff8ae7e2a8 TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 157
3   com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore          0x00007fff8ae7e07f TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 358
4   com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore          0x00007fff8aed382c TimerThread + 332
5   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
6   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 7:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5afe42 __semwait_signal + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce1bdea nanosleep + 164
2   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce1bbb5 usleep + 53
3   com.Synthogy.Ivory                      0x0000000122059dbf 0x122000000 + 368063
4   com.Synthogy.Ivory                      0x00000001220779f1 0x122000000 + 489969
5   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
6   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 8:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5ae67a mach_msg_trap + 10
1   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5add71 mach_msg + 73
2   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x00007fff8919e6fc __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 188
3   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x00007fff891a6e64 __CFRunLoopRun + 1204
4   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x00007fff891a6676 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 230
5   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x00007fff891b638f CFRunLoopRun + 95
6   com.Synthogy.Ivory                      0x0000000122134217 IvoryAUViewEntry + 351519
7   com.Synthogy.Ivory                      0x0000000122134bce IvoryAUViewEntry + 354006
8   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
9   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 9:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5afe42 __semwait_signal + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce1bdea nanosleep + 164
2   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce1bbb5 usleep + 53
3   com.Synthogy.Ivory                      0x0000000122134dde IvoryAUViewEntry + 354534
4   com.Synthogy.Ivory                      0x0000000122134bce IvoryAUViewEntry + 354006
5   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
6   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 10:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5ae67a mach_msg_trap + 10
1   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5add71 mach_msg + 73
2   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x00007fff8919e6fc __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 188
3   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x00007fff891a6e64 __CFRunLoopRun + 1204
4   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x00007fff891a6676 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 230
5   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x00007fff891b638f CFRunLoopRun + 95
6   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015e971e45 std::vector<char*, std::allocator<char*> >::_M_insert_aux(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<char**, std::vector<char*, std::allocator<char*> > >, char* const&) + 4267
7   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
8   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 11:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5afbca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce69274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
2   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea474b8 non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 146560
3   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea466cf non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 142999
4   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
5   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 12:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5afbca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce69274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
2   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea474b8 non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 146560
3   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea466cf non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 142999
4   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
5   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 13:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5afbca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce69274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
2   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea474b8 non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 146560
3   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea466cf non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 142999
4   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
5   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 14:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5afbca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce69274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
2   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea474b8 non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 146560
3   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea466cf non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 142999
4   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
5   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 15:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5afbca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce69274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
2   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea474b8 non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 146560
3   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea466cf non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 142999
4   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
5   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 16:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5afbca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce69274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
2   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea474b8 non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 146560
3   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea466cf non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 142999
4   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
5   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 17:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5afbca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce69274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
2   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea474b8 non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 146560
3   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea466cf non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 142999
4   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
5   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 18:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5afbca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce69274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
2   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea474b8 non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 146560
3   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea466cf non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 142999
4   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
5   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 19:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5afbca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce69274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
2   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea474b8 non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 146560
3   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea466cf non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 142999
4   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
5   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 20:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5afbca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce69274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
2   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea474b8 non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 146560
3   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea466cf non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 142999
4   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
5   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 21:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5afbca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce69274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
2   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea474b8 non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 146560
3   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea478c5 non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 147597
4   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
5   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 22:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5afbca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce69274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
2   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea474b8 non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 146560
3   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea478c5 non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 147597
4   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
5   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 23:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5afbca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce69274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
2   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea474b8 non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 146560
3   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea478c5 non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 147597
4   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
5   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 24:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5afbca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce69274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
2   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea474b8 non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 146560
3   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea478c5 non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 147597
4   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
5   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 25:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5afbca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce69274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
2   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea474b8 non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 146560
3   com.spectrasonics.Ruby                  0x000000015ea478c5 non-virtual thunk to GOTextList::~GOTextList() + 147597
4   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
5   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 26:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5ae67a mach_msg_trap + 10
1   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5add71 mach_msg + 73
2   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x00007fff8919e6fc __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 188
3   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x00007fff891a6e64 __CFRunLoopRun + 1204
4   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x00007fff891a6676 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 230
5   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x00007fff891b638f CFRunLoopRun + 95
6   com.apple.DiscRecording                 0x00007fff8b159ebb DRWorkLoop::WorkLoop() + 231
7   com.apple.DiscRecording                 0x00007fff8b159dc1 DRWorkLoop::WorkLoopEntry(DRWorkLoop*) + 9
8   com.apple.DiscRecording                 0x00007fff8b159aa0 DRThreadObject::StartRoutine(DRThreadObject*) + 128
9   com.apple.DiscRecording                 0x00007fff8b159935 DRThreadObject::SymbolRoutine(DRThreadObject*) + 9
10 libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
11 libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 27:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5b0192 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce67594 _pthread_wqthread + 758
2   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b85 start_wqthread + 13
Thread 28:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5b0192 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce67594 _pthread_wqthread + 758
2   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b85 start_wqthread + 13
Thread 29:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5b0192 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce67594 _pthread_wqthread + 758
2   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b85 start_wqthread + 13
Thread 30:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5b0192 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce67594 _pthread_wqthread + 758
2   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b85 start_wqthread + 13
Thread 31:: com.apple.appkit-heartbeat
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5afe42 __semwait_signal + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce1bdea nanosleep + 164
2   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce1bbb5 usleep + 53
3   com.apple.AppKit                        0x00007fff8804dc73 -[NSUIHeartBeat _heartBeatThread:] + 1727
4   com.apple.Foundation                    0x00007fff8e82674e -[NSThread main] + 68
5   com.apple.Foundation                    0x00007fff8e8266c6 __NSThread__main__ + 1575
6   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
7   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 32:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8c5afe42 __semwait_signal + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce1bdea nanosleep + 164
2   com.apple.Foundation                    0x00007fff8e8627be +[NSThread sleepForTimeInterval:] + 146
3   com.apple.logic.pro                     0x0000000100828db6 std::vector<MidiRegion, std::allocator<MidiRegion> >::_M_insert_aux(__gnu_cxx::__normal_iterator<MidiRegion*, std::vector<MidiRegion, std::allocator<MidiRegion> > >, MidiRegion const&) + 381302
4   com.apple.Foundation                    0x00007fff8e82674e -[NSThread main] + 68
5   com.apple.Foundation                    0x00007fff8e8266c6 __NSThread__main__ + 1575
6   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce658bf _pthread_start + 335
7   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff8ce68b75 thread_start + 13
Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
rax: 0x0000000000000000 rbx: 0x0000000000000006 rcx: 0x00007fff5fbfd9e8 rdx: 0x0000000000000000
rdi: 0x0000000000001c03 rsi: 0x0000000000000006 rbp: 0x00007fff5fbfda10 rsp: 0x00007fff5fbfd9e8
   r8: 0x00007fff73b89fb8   r9: 0x000000011ad11980 r10: 0x00007fff8c5afd0a r11: 0x0000000000000246
r12: 0x00007fff5fbfdadf r13: 0x00007fff5fbfda60 r14: 0x00007fff73b8c960 r15: 0x000000011ad1b510
rip: 0x00007fff8c5afce2 rfl: 0x0000000000000246 cr2: 0x000000007ad9a090
Logical CPU: 0

Hi
cecile239 wrote:
Hello,
I am looking for some help with Logic Pro (9.1.7). It keeps crashing when I open any sequence, kind of randomly. I then have to relaunch Logic and can open the sequence without a problem.
It often happens if I close one sequence and open another one right after (or even a few minutses after).
I see that you are running Ivory and Spectrasonics plugs?
The symptoms sound like you have run out of RAM, or the RAM is not being properly released when you close one Project, then open another.
Use Utilities:Activity Monitor to check what is happening with the RAM.
CCT

Logic Pro 10, Garage Band.

Hey guys.
I just did a fresh OSX install on my Macbook.
I have not added the additional content (ie, Garage Band, etc.)
I have yet to re-download logic pro X.
Do I have to have Garage Band installed to use Logic Pro X?
Trying to keep my hard drive clean as possible.
I want to use this machine for multi tracking, nothing else.
Thanks.

Giovanni5000 wrote:
Do I have to have Garage Band installed to use Logic Pro X?
No.

Will Logic Pro X run on the latest MBA with i5 and 8GB RAM?

Hi,
want to buy the new Logic Pro X but I´m not sure if it will rum smoothly on my MBA 2013 with i5 and 8GB Ram.
I saw some very promising posts on the i-net regarding Logic Pro 9 which seems to run nice. But does the latest version of Logic require more hardware power?
Can anybody share any experience on this?
thanks!

Logic Pro X has got some system requirements, and your MacBook meets all of these requirements > https://www.apple.com/logic-pro/specs/
Have a look at the Logic forum and read experiences. Also, there are reviews over the Internet, but if Logic Pro 9 works properly in that MacBook, Logic Pro X will also run properly

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