Magical People tags
After scanning in and editing a photo in PSE 11, I save it to Organizer and it appears with 6 or 8 image (People) tags "magically" applied. This happens every time and it's the same People tags each time. Where are these names being cached and how can I delete them so that they are not being automatically applied to newly saved photos? And, how do I ensure that that photos that contain legitimate tags with these names are not also deleted?
Below is the solution to get face tags from windows photo gallery to Lightroom for me. Be sure to backup your files.
*** Backup your files ***
Step 1: Mopve the people names and the rectangles for the people into a different field in the .jpg metadata
Download Exiftool
I ran the command below from the command prompt and in the folder with exiftool and the configuration file found from the link below:
exiftool.exe -config ExifTool_config_convert_regions "-regioninfo<myregion" "foldername" -m -r -overwrite_originals_in_place
"foldername" is the folder / path you want to make the change for. -m ignores minor errors, -r includes subfolders, -overwrite... means it will NOT create the otherwise default backup for each file changes (filename.jpg_original).
Copy Windows Photo Gallery face tags to Google Picasa
Step 2: Move people names to keywords for Lightroom. Do this if you're using lightroom, do not do it if you're using picassa. I haven't yet been able to check to see but I'm guessing I will have to "convert it to a person tag" in lightroom keywords since they show as descriptive tags but I have tested everything else.
Add the people names to the keywords
exiftool "-xmp:subject+<regionname" FolderName -overwrite_origional_in_place -m -r
Where FolderName is the folder / path the pictures you want to edit are in
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Migrating from WPG to Lightroom 6 - People Tags
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People Groups will give you a hierarchical organization of your people. You can see the same if you go to people view, and move the switcher (a toggle switch between People & Group) present on the top left corner of the media grid towards "group".
As for the second query, you can delete the Photo Stack corresponding to "Jane and Bill" in People View by selecting the same and hitting Delete key. This tag will be removed from all the files which have it. Also, a query like "Find all photos where Jane AND Bill are present" can be created easily using Advanced Search present under Find >> Using Advanced Search.
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People tags in Lightroom 6 and Windows Live Photo Gallery
I think I'm finally ready to make the switch to lightroom from WLPG for photos management. I've used LR for a long time to do the edits but people tags are huge and kept all of my photo management in WLPG. I have 100k organized photos and they are all people tagged in WLPG. I just started the LR6 trial and noticed it doesn't honor existing WLPG people tags. Is there a way to import them / avoid redoing people tags for 100k pictures? Which, simply won't happen.
Side question - people tags and coordinates export with jpg outputs from LR6 (assuming I don't intentionally turn them off at export), correct?Below is the solution to get face tags from windows photo gallery to Lightroom for me. Be sure to backup your files.
*** Backup your files ***
Step 1: Mopve the people names and the rectangles for the people into a different field in the .jpg metadata
Download Exiftool
I ran the command below from the command prompt and in the folder with exiftool and the configuration file found from the link below:
exiftool.exe -config ExifTool_config_convert_regions "-regioninfo<myregion" "foldername" -m -r -overwrite_originals_in_place
"foldername" is the folder / path you want to make the change for. -m ignores minor errors, -r includes subfolders, -overwrite... means it will NOT create the otherwise default backup for each file changes (filename.jpg_original).
Copy Windows Photo Gallery face tags to Google Picasa
Step 2: Move people names to keywords for Lightroom. Do this if you're using lightroom, do not do it if you're using picassa. I haven't yet been able to check to see but I'm guessing I will have to "convert it to a person tag" in lightroom keywords since they show as descriptive tags but I have tested everything else.
Add the people names to the keywords
exiftool "-xmp:subject+<regionname" FolderName -overwrite_origional_in_place -m -r
Where FolderName is the folder / path the pictures you want to edit are in
This came from:
Migrating from WPG to Lightroom 6 - People Tags -
PSE11 Add People not suggesting People tags
Hello,
PSE Organizer 11 is not finding any people. I have tried selecting one or all of my media and it never seems to suggest people. I have tried training the engine by manually typing in People tags (very slow process) and it has not helped. It always comes back with the message "No new people found in your selection".
Please suggest face ways to tag people with Marked faces. I used to be able to do this very face by dragging and dropping people tags onto the Mark Faces boxes. I also used "Family" and "Friends" as people tags (this is really important to me). All of this seems to be dropped in PSEO11!
RobHi Rob, try this suggestion. I found it on photoshop.com and it worked for me. I was so happy to find this.
http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/people_recognition_concern
As this solution has been tucked under other responses, I'm posting again:
Here is a suggestion that came down from our engineers:
1. Close Elements Organizer
2. Navigate to
--Windows XP: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Adobe\Elements Organizer\Catalogs\\BreezeData
--WinVista/7: C:\ProgramData\Adobe\Elements Organizer\Catalogs\\BreezeData
3. Rename "breezesession.dat" to "breezesession.old"
4. Retry People Recognition.
Erick
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