People Tags In PSE 11

In PSE11 under people where I have all my people with picture thumbnails .............How can I change that thumbnail which PSE 11 automatically assigns to that person? Nothing I have tried seems to work. Your help is most appreciated.
Further to this..... some of the thumbnails are blank with just a name. How do I add a picture. when I click on it I only get Remove person or rename? Help please!

You can associate a people tag with say "Mary" with a photo using right click on the photo >> Add a person. Now you can move Mary's photo stack in People view to "Jones Family" group.
People Groups will give you a hierarchical organization of your people. You can see the same if you go to people view, and move the switcher (a toggle switch between People & Group) present on the top left corner of the media grid towards "group".
As for the second query, you can delete the Photo Stack corresponding to "Jane and Bill" in People View by selecting the same and hitting Delete key. This tag will be removed from all the files which have it. Also, a query like "Find all photos where Jane AND Bill are present" can be created easily using Advanced Search present under Find >> Using Advanced Search.
Hope this answers most of your questions.
Thanks
Andaleeb

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Thanks. That helped a little bit, but not with the merging of the identical imported tags and People tags. They seems to be separate systems? Other tags you can merge by selecting both and right click < Merge Key word tags.
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I know that very well, like you said it did not need much googling. But my question was, if someone has e.g. ready-made plugin for that. Of course I could e.g. let WLPG find the faces and then tag those manually with rather small effort. But it would be nice, if that was done automatically. Like your answer sais, the tagged information is stored to the file, but in non-standard way. It is not rocket science to extract that information and do standard tagging with some plugin. But my coding skills are not enough - not even close. So the original question is still valid.
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I've upgraded from PSE 6 to PSE 11. My people tags have carried over, but are not showing properly in the "People" view.
All my people tags are still present on the pictures and I can search using them by selecting "Advanced Search" in the media view. However, when I go to the People view, the only stacks I see are ones I have created in PSE 11 that were not tagged in my previous version. The names of all my previously tagged people only show when I click to view "Groups". Clicking on the name in "Groups" simply leads to the message "No people exist in this group" - even though the tag clearly shows on the images in the Media view.
Is there any way to convert the people listed as groups back to people tags that will be recognised by PSE? Even when I run the facial recognition software and tag people here, they still do not show up in the People view if they were previously tagged in PSE 6.
Thanks.

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jlovettjr wrote:
I would have no problem with using the new People tabs except for two things:
1) There are pictures of people that facial recognition cannot handle. An example would be a profile view. These have already been tagged with old people tags. The new People Tab is dependent on facial recognition and will not accept these.
I don't use facial recognition at all, sorry.
2) The mystery is that the conversion from old to new was not automatic during the upgrade. Hours on telephone with Adobe tech did not resolve how one reconciled the two different tags. It appears to be more than a problem of naming the tags.
As I explained, there was no conversion at all with my own categories, and I was too happy for that. From a number of other posts on that subject, I don't think that reconciling the two different kinds of tags is possible. I think I'll try a new conversion from an old PSE6 catalog so that I can play with the new scheme; that should work even without face tagging.

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The Who Is This box is part of the new face-tagging in PSE 8. When you invoke Find > Find People For Tagging, it will let you tag individual faces with People tags via the Who Is This box. When a face is tagged, that tag can still be used like the old People tags -- you can assign it other pics, you can search for all pics that have the tag, etc. But the Find People For Tagging command will also show the face associated with the tag.
For some people (including me), if you type the name of a pre-existing People tag exactly into the Who Is This Box, PSE will use it. But some others have reported that PSE makes a new, duplicate tag in this case. I don't know why. (But it is clear that Adobe didn't really think through the issues of people with existing catalogs.)
The Find People For Tagging command creates its tags immediately under the People category. You can merge the old tag with the new tag by selecting the old tag in the Keyword Tags pane, Edit > Select All, dragging the new tag (created by the Find People command) to those photos, and then deleting the old tag. In the Keyword Tags pane, you can drag the new tag anyhere you want in the tag heirarchy.

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Hello, I recently downloaded PSE 9 Trial Version and imported a PSE 8 Backup into PSE 9. It took quiet some time but it eventually converted the library to suit PSE 9. I have noticed a couple of small things that I find very irritating and that seem to be a step backwards. Firstly, when I am in people recognition mode, not all of the names auto complete when I type in the first 3 or 4 letters of the name like they used to in PSE 8, even though the people are in my people list. This might not seem like a huge problem, but I have 100's of people in my catalog and if I do not spell the name exactly as I typed it before, I will create a second instance of the same person. Secondly, when a bunch of faces come up in the "Name these people" Screen, I used to be able to hold down Shift or Ctrl key and select multiple people to name at once, PSE 9 wont let me do this, I have to name them one by one, even if they are the same person. I'm sure this is just a small issue that Adobe will get around to, but it is a huge turn off from PSE 9.

So it sounds like PsE is installed correctly if new people tags work correctly.
I have seen another issue that might be related. You can manually create a people tag by adding it to the people category. As long as this tag exist in the 'root' people category, people recognition seems to work correctly. You can also have people recognition create a tag during the people recognition process. These are two different tag types if you look inside the database. And they behave differently. For example, you can merge tags which have been manually created whereas this functionaliy is not possible for tags created through people recongition. (By the way, I would not recommend merging the manual tags because you will run into issues when PsE finds a face on a merged and deleted tag).
Once a face has been tagged to a manual people tag, the tag can be moved into a sub-category.
I don't know if tags created in PsE 8 are considered to be manual or not in PsE 9 but this may explain some things
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I can't help you beyond this -- you have exhausted my people recognition skills.

Reset "ignore" in people recognition in PSE 9

Hi all,
First, as I am no native speaker: please excuse my bad English, thanks.
Does anybody know how to reset the people recognition?
Problem: I did people recognition over my whole catalog. Doing this, I told PSE to ignore some people. Now, after a while, I would like to tag these people too (and not by using the "white rectangle" manually for some thousands of photos).
If I click on people recognition now, PSE tells me, that there are no people unrecognized any more.
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The only way I have found to reset the "ignore" option is to remove the media from the catalog and then re-import it. Export the tags before you do this. You will have to confirm faces again. I would try baby steps with a small test catalog to make sure you don't loose anything before you try this on your real catalog.
It would be great if Adobe could add an option (Under the Edit menu and with the right mouse click) "Run People Analysis" on photos which would allow you to start over with people recognition on a photo. This would add the bounding boxes which were removed with the "ignore" click.
This is what I think is happening...
Once a media item is added to the catalog, a flag is set on that media item telling it that People Analysis has not been executed yet.
If Media-Analysis/Analyze Photos for People Automatically is enabled, the People Analysis will run on newly imported photos. This will identify potential people with the bounding boxes and some data which helps identify the face. This creates the data in the BreezeData folder. I think the bounding box information is also duplicated in the catalog.pse9db file -- but face identification data.
If Media-Analysis/Analyze Photos for People Automatically is not enabled, People Analysis will run when you click on the "Start People Recognition".
The people tag information is also stored in the catalog.pse9db file when you 'confirm' a face to the bounding box.
Some flag must be set in the catalog.pse9db file after People Analysis is run on a photo to tell the system that People Analysis has run. This prevents it from running ever again on that particular media item. Running Auto-Analysis will not run People Analysis as it seems these are considered to be separate tasks.
You will also run into problems if you edit a photo using photoshop elements and save it as the same file name. Again, the Organizer will not make any recommendations on faces because people analysis was run once on the photo -- even though the content may have been changed. The "Run People Analysis" option would help with this scenario as well!

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Add me to the list. I have almost 70K in cataloged files. I've been using Elements since before it was Elements (I forget what it was in the 90's, but at some point they changed the naming convention....) I've skipped about every other release and just recently was very nicely gifted a copy of 12 for my birthday, and thought I might as well update from 10.
What a mistake....
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I LIKE that structure. I don't want to have to CHANGE that structure simply because Adobe thinks I should. If Adobe's structure is somehow better than mine, for me, I'm not seeing it.
My wife also uses our catalog, but is not nearly so intimately familiar with why things are the way they are. All she knows is if she wants a picture of our three daughters together she can click their name tags under People, click five stars to get the best ones, and see a list.
The entire process now is confusing - having a tag list on the right but not being able to use that tag list to select (include or exclude) photos with those tags, is stupid. Having to click the arrow to the right of the tag name to open up ANOTHER selection method in the top pane, then somehow navigate a confusing structure there, is also stupid.
Even if I wanted to live with that and just "learn it", I then have the same problem others have repeated above - I have tags that were imported and placed properly under the "People/Places/Events" structure, but I also have (for instance) a tag called "Detroit" - which is obviously a place but yet is now under "Imported Keyword Tags" - with no apparent way to move it.
If I could at LEAST move a tag from "imported" into the new structure (to put "Detroit" under Places) that would make it somewhat understandable (although I'd still grumble about being forced to do so by Adobe....) but I CAN'T DO THAT.
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Guaranteed disaster and confusion.
Adobe. Please. If you're going to do this, at least implement some method of letting us simply drag a keyword from the Keywords category over to one of your OWN categories, or allow us to remove your own categories from every visible menu or listing and simply use our own.
I do NOT want to have to recreate all my previous tags in your own categories, then go through the laborious process of selecting each one in my own keyword list individually and re-tagging them with YOUR version of the same tag, then having to "remove" my own keyword and save yours.
For 70K images? NO.
Seems pretty simple.

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Below is the solution to get face tags from windows photo gallery to Lightroom for me. Be sure to backup your files.
*** Backup your files ***
Step 1: Mopve the people names and the rectangles for the people into a different field in the .jpg metadata
Download Exiftool
I ran the command below from the command prompt and in the folder with exiftool and the configuration file found from the link below:
exiftool.exe -config ExifTool_config_convert_regions "-regioninfo<myregion" "foldername" -m -r -overwrite_originals_in_place
"foldername" is the folder / path you want to make the change for. -m ignores minor errors, -r includes subfolders, -overwrite... means it will NOT create the otherwise default backup for each file changes (filename.jpg_original).
Copy Windows Photo Gallery face tags to Google Picasa
Step 2: Move people names to keywords for Lightroom. Do this if you're using lightroom, do not do it if you're using picassa. I haven't yet been able to check to see but I'm guessing I will have to "convert it to a person tag" in lightroom keywords since they show as descriptive tags but I have tested everything else.
Add the people names to the keywords
exiftool "-xmp:subject+<regionname" FolderName -overwrite_origional_in_place -m -r
Where FolderName is the folder / path the pictures you want to edit are in
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Hello,
PSE Organizer 11 is not finding any people. I have tried selecting one or all of my media and it never seems to suggest people. I have tried training the engine by manually typing in People tags (very slow process) and it has not helped. It always comes back with the message "No new people found in your selection".
Please suggest face ways to tag people with Marked faces. I used to be able to do this very face by dragging and dropping people tags onto the Mark Faces boxes. I also used "Family" and "Friends" as people tags (this is really important to me). All of this seems to be dropped in PSEO11!
Rob

Hi Rob, try this suggestion. I found it on photoshop.com and it worked for me. I was so happy to find this.
http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/people_recognition_concern
As this solution has been tucked under other responses, I'm posting again:
Here is a suggestion that came down from our engineers:
1. Close Elements Organizer
2. Navigate to
--Windows XP: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Adobe\Elements Organizer\Catalogs\\BreezeData
--WinVista/7: C:\ProgramData\Adobe\Elements Organizer\Catalogs\\BreezeData
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