Mail Migration - Folders Subscriptions & Unread Mail

Hello,
I'm currently testing a migration from MS 5.2 to 6.2. Sorry for all
the verbage here - I'll try to shorten as much as possible.
iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.09 (built Nov 18 2005)
libimta.so 5.2 HotFix 2.09 (built 10:35:58, Nov 18 2005)
The Sun Java system is
Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)
libimta.so 6.2-3.04 (built 01:43:03, Jul 15 2005)
I have issues with read messages showing up unread and folder subscriptions gone. I'm looking at the folder subscription issue right now.
The portal migration first has us 'migrate' the email data. After that is done, a rename of the email account is done to match the 'immutable id'. So user/joeuser/INBOX is going to become user/83899111100/INBOX. What I have found is that if joeuser had a store.sub file, it is now gone after the rename. If I copy the original store.sub file and edit the contents to match the new acct, joeuser can then see the folders.
Is that normal behavior for the store.sub file to disappear if you are completely renaming an account?
Regarding the unread mail issue. I copy the mboxlist info from the 5.2 system to the 6.2 system, run the upgrade scripts, and start stored. The default log for stored statup that say "Removing database environment" and to run reconstruct -m.
--- default log ----
General Information: Log created (1197408587)
Store Warning: stored: Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server STORE 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005) starting up
Store Debug: Removing database environment
Store Debug: Removing database environment
Store Information: stored mboxlist_init: Printing Stored Database Startup Information:
Store Information: mboxlist_init: mboxlist db path = :/opt/luminis/products/mail/data/store/mboxlist/:
Store Information: mboxlist_init: mboxlist db state data: exists = 0xf nfiles = 4, nfiles_u = 0 logs = 0 0 - 0 cache = 1 0xf
Store Information: stored: mboxlist db cache path = :/tmp/msg-mailstore:
Store Information: mboxlist_init: mboxlist db cache state data: exists = 0x0 nfiles = 0, nfiles_u = 0 logs = 0 0 - 0
Store Information: stored: Last event id = 0x4758c395
Store Information: mboxlist_init: Best mboxlist db snapshot taken at 0x475dadce found in
:/opt/luminis/products/mail/data/store/dbdata/snapshots/: :003: n = 3
Store Information: mboxlist_init: DB initial state = 3
General Critical: Recovering database from snapshot. Run reconstruct -m soon after startup to resync redundant data
Previous version of store database moved for analysis to: /opt/luminis/products/mail/data/store/mboxlist/removed
Store Information: stored mboxlist_init: mboxlist database startup successful
I run the reconstruct -m, which works and results in a new database. I would assume that this is why all the mail shows up as 'unread'. Is this a correct assumption? Where is read/unread info kept?
I've opened up a problem with the portal vendor. For the subscribed issue, that seems related to the rename of the account itself. For the unread issue, that would seem related to the 'newly initialized' database.
Since the 6.2 system doesn't like something about the migrated database and to avoid 'losing' the old database, I am being told to the the following on the current 5.2 system prior to migration to ensure a clean database:
1. reconstruct -m
2. And one step 1 is complete, reconstruct -r -f
Does this seem like the right thing to do?
Thanks for reading all of this and whatever info you can provide.
Keith
[email protected]

kmrnm10 wrote:
The portal migration first has us 'migrate' the email data. After that is done, a rename of the email account is done to match the 'immutable id'. So user/joeuser/INBOX is going to become user/83899111100/INBOX. What I have found is that if joeuser had a store.sub file, it is now gone after the rename. If I copy the original store.sub file and edit the contents to match the new acct, joeuser can then see the folders.
Is that normal behavior for the store.sub file to disappear if you are completely renaming an account?Yes it is 'normal' with the version you are running - bug #6410419 - "mboxutil -r loses peruser/subscr info and store.usr/store.sub files" fixed in 118207-63 (6.2) and MS6.3.
Regarding the unread mail issue. I copy the mboxlist info from the 5.2 system to the 6.2 system, run the upgrade scripts, and start stored. The default log for stored statup that say "Removing database environment" and to run reconstruct -m. Before going any further - performing the upgrade with a non-patched version of 6.2 is going to cause problems period -- regardless of whether this is 'necessary' due to some kind of portal support requirement.
--- default log ----
General Information: Log created (1197408587)
Store Warning: stored: Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server STORE 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005) starting up
Store Debug: Removing database environment
Store Debug: Removing database environment
Store Information: stored mboxlist_init: Printing Stored Database Startup Information:
Store Information: mboxlist_init: mboxlist db path = :/opt/luminis/products/mail/data/store/mboxlist/:
Store Information: mboxlist_init: mboxlist db state data: exists = 0xf nfiles = 4, nfiles_u = 0 logs = 0 0 - 0 cache = 1 0xf
Store Information: stored: mboxlist db cache path = :/tmp/msg-mailstore:
Store Information: mboxlist_init: mboxlist db cache state data: exists = 0x0 nfiles = 0, nfiles_u = 0 logs = 0 0 - 0
Store Information: stored: Last event id = 0x4758c395
Store Information: mboxlist_init: Best mboxlist db snapshot taken at 0x475dadce found in
:/opt/luminis/products/mail/data/store/dbdata/snapshots/: :003: n = 3
Store Information: mboxlist_init: DB initial state = 3
General Critical: Recovering database from snapshot. Run reconstruct -m soon after startup to resync redundant data
Previous version of store database moved for analysis to: /opt/luminis/products/mail/data/store/mboxlist/removed
Store Information: stored mboxlist_init: mboxlist database startup successful
I run the reconstruct -m, which works and results in a new database. I would assume that this is why all the mail shows up as 'unread'. Is this a correct assumption? Where is read/unread info kept?read/unread information is kept in two locations -- the mboxlist database that wasn't successfully migrated (hence the "General Critical: Recovering database from snapshot") and and older 'backup' snapshot version which resides on disk ... store.usr.
I've opened up a problem with the portal vendor. For the subscribed issue, that seems related to the rename of the account itself. For the unread issue, that would seem related to the 'newly initialized' database.I suggest you upgrade to 118207-63 prior to performing the migration and see if either/both issues persist.
Since the 6.2 system doesn't like something about the migrated database and to avoid 'losing' the old database, I am being told to the the following on the current 5.2 system prior to migration to ensure a clean database:
1. reconstruct -m
2. And one step 1 is complete, reconstruct -r -f
Does this seem like the right thing to do? I would run "reconstruct -r" which will quickly detect and resolve simple errors, but running (1) and (2) seems un-necessary since this is unlikely to be the cause of the behaviour you mentioned.
There are known issues with upgrading from 5.2->6.2 e.g. bug #6460035 - "make_mboxlistdb_changes.sh script does not copy the log files" which will lead to the same error -- once again this is fixed in 118207-63.
Regards,
Shane.

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    They say keep the T-key down until you see the firewire (then let go I suppose. As I said I don't see what's going on on the desktop of my old computer so I kept the T-key for a few minutes. I also tried another time to let go after 1-2 min. No difference.
    I shut down the new comp. and the old computer screen appears automatically (both are connected to the monitor; the old with analog port, the new with digital port) and sure enough the firewire icon is moving on the screen.
    I go back to the new computer and put the old 40 GIG Mac HD in the trash. Actually, when it touched the trash, I just saw an eject icon and the drive disappear. Did not go in the trash which is empty. So I guess I ejected, not sure what's the difference but I looked for it to see if it's anywhere in the computer. Could not find it. Not in the HD, not in the desktop. Good, I don't want it there. Is it hidden somewhere ?
    So I tried again but wondering perhaps the old computer should RESTART not turn on (it was off) so now I wait until it's on, then push restart. I hear the gong when it shuts off but that's it, no other gong when it comes back. I keep the T-key. But nothing happened. Just see the message "waiting for your other computer to restart"
    PS: BTW Target mode (which seems to me similar to Migrating with "Migration Assistant") will not work for me because it must be SATA, mine is ATA.
    I didn't try but read that it has to be SATA.
    Is it the same ? In migrating they say hold down the T-key (T for target)
    And how come that my 40GB HD which is ATA did migrate (not that I wanted too but still).
    Also, this drive ("Current Work") that I want to migrate to the new computer is in my external drive. Can't I just drag it ? If it has only personal data, files and folders I know I can, but It has system (OS X) and applications. It's the one I use and boot on, in my old G4 but I want to transfer Files and folders and settings, so the new computer will know what are my Safari preferences, Automatic fill-in, and perhaps it will move my iTunes music Library too ?
    Basically everything except applications. Although I would like my Nikon scanner to be in the new computer as well as the LaCie DVD recorder but I guess I can do that later, separately ?
    What are the settings or info I need ? Because if it's just Safari preferences, automatic fill-in and other such small thing, it might be better to just do it again in the new comp and forget about the hassle of migrating.

    Try getting into Windows and then plugging in the Superdrive. The drive will only be attached to one OS or the other, not both.

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