Mailman Domain Problem... read many solutions... none work.

basically i have a subdomain that Mailman should be running off of as mail for the main domain is hosted on another machine (that the list can not be hosted on).
so (for example) this machine has : domain.tld and list.domain.tld
and a list called LIST.
i can send mail to [email protected] ... goes through fine and i receive the posting.
however... the "To:" header is listed as "[email protected]" and not the correct "[email protected]" this means when you "Reply All" you reply to the INCORRECT and nonexistent address.
i have run the :
+sudo /usr/share/mailman/bin/withlist -l -r fix_url LIST --urlhost=list.domain.tld+
a billion times it seems... and the problem remains. every possible setting says "list.domain.tld" and it never changes in the received mail at any point ever.
SA open. SA closed. service stopped. service started. at no point does that command make a difference for me.
from ALL the dozens of posts about what seems to be my exact problem... that command is given as the solution but i swear it isn't solutionizing it for me.
any suggestions as to where i am going wrong?
in addition... looking at the raw headers on the received mail... i see the correct list.domain.tld all over the place... but in addition to the bad "To:" i also have an incorrect "-bounces" address going to domain.tld instead of list.domain.tld.
thanks.
zeb.

Also tried typing this in the Terminal:
sudo kextunload /System/Library/Extensions/AppleHDA.kext
sudo kextload /System/Library/Extensions/AppleHDA.kext

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