Make to Order- Avoid creating Firmed Planned Orders

Hi Gurus,
I am using strategy 50 for one of my materials and when i create sales order agains that material a firmed planned order is created automatically. As this is firmed planned order in case i stock in material for that sales order and fullfill its requirement and run MD50 MRP against sales order. The planned order still exists as it is firmed where as i need it to be deleted after running MD50, because required quantity has been fullfilled using transfer posting from another stock. Please suggest how can i achieve it. Is there any configuration available to create unfirmed planned orders instead of firmed planned orders against sales orders? as unfirmed planned orders get deleted after executing MD50 in such a scenario.
Best Regards,
Shah

Dear,
What is your MRP type for these material? Use PD and check
Check the planning time fence field for those materials. If the requirements are within the planning time fence, then it will create firmed planned orders.
Go to OPP1Master Data- > Check MRP Types--- here, on "Control parameters" tab you can find the desired field called "Firming type". Make it bank then system will not create the Firmed planned order.
Also refer this link,
Re: firmed planned orders
Regards,
R.Brahmankar

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My requirement is I want to make all planned order created from planning run will be automatically firmed. I tried several option :
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Dear Arman,
Use T.Code MD19 for firming the planned orders,also check MDBA for firming the planned order.
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we had following system behavior the other day (actually a few months ago) that we weren't able to explain.
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Hi Rupesh,
first of all: thanks for joining!
here are the answers to your questions:
1.) lot-size = EX (i.e. not periodic)
2.) no overlaps defined for EX in OMI4
3.) no time fence and the rescheduling horizon is set to 100 days
Looking at the rescheduling horizon and what is described in the OSS-note, I think I found it. The system actually works as designed. What we failed to do was to update the factory calendar with the downtime over x-mas back then. If we had done so, the demand would have been pulled forward, which means that the firmed order would have been consumed, instead the demand was distributed over the following for weeks.
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Thx for your help!
Points will be awarded for pointing in the right direction...
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Bobby

"CLOSED": HOW TO LOAD FIRM PLANNED ORDERS OF ANOTHER PLAN INTO ASCP PLAN?

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Customer uses a separate planning for order intake. During order intake the requested due date is validated based on ASCP Gantt Chart. Bottlenecks are resolved. For make items firm discrete jobs are created, if adjusted suggested due dates are manually changed. For buy items firm planned orders are created for manually changed suggested due dates.
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Since you need to run a data collection to load the new discrete job, I suggest you to add a custom step in the data collection.
This custom step will
1) select all firmed planned order in plan 2
2) put the firm planned order into a new schedule through staging tables (MST_ST_SUPPLIES) .
3) collect the data
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Planned orders are created when Production order is open

Hi Everyone
We have Make order and Make to stock scenarios in the system for various products. When Production order is still open ( Fully confirmed with C015 and partially delivered), system assuming that order is completed and created a new planned order for the undelivered quantity against Sales order.
As per my knowledge MRP shouldn't create new planned orders when old production order is still incomplete. The old production order has status REL, PDLV and CNF.
Any help is appreciate and it is our production issue
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Prasad

Hi,
is the order marked as completely delivered on the Warehouse view? Have you reached the under delivery tolerance for this order with your partial delivery from production? If yes, this would be the reason why the system thinks that a new order is required
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How to make default account assignment category in planned order?

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1. Sales order for a configurable parent item is created in ERP & order BOM is changed & transferred to APO. In APO MRP run takes place for that parent item, which creates a planned order with account assignment category "M" (M:Individual Customer w/o KD-CO.
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1. Can anybody help me how i can make default account assignment as "F" (F:Order) in the planned order of parent item?
2. PR created for child item also has default account assignment category as "M". we wish to change that to "F".
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The account assignment category maintained in the requirement class for parent item is 'M'.
No account assignment category maintained has been maintained in the requirement class Semi-finished component (this component is sent for subcontracting).
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I am looking for a BAPI to create SNP planned order based on the order start date. There is BAPI BAPI_MOSRVAPS_CREATESNPORDER which can be used to create SNP planned order based on the end date but not based on the start date.
Also would be great if some one can share how do they create SNP Planned orders using BAPI BAPI_MOSRVAPS_CREATESNPORDER in case if GR processing time is defined in the product master and workdays for GR to be respected according to the calendar.
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Hello Mr.Venkat,
Hope you recognize me.
Please check out the BAdi below.
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In this method parameter IT_ORDER_HEAD contains Order start date input option.
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After firming planned order, new planned order is generating in MRP run

Hi Experts,
I am using SAP AFS. Planning strategy is 21- MTO with Project settlement. MRP type is PD. Lte size is EX. Procurement type is X.
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In sap AFS T.Code for MRP run is /n/afs/md02. After receiving the Sales order, MD04 screen gets updated accordingly and I am running the MRP.Planned orders are generated accordingly. I am firming the planned order manually through MD04. The satr mark is also appearing.
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Thanks all for your feedback..
@ Vishal
1. Yes, Both Old firmed planned order and newly generated planned order have the same grid value
2. For both the planned orders :
Special Stock is E u2013 Orders on hand,
Consumption is V,
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3. First planned order is not in the assigned tab of MD04. This means that has been allocated to some object. u2013 I didu2019nt got this point. Can u please elaborate?
@ Nikhil
1. Quantity of sales order is not reducing after firming the sales order
2. Account assignment category for both the planned orders is u201CZu201D - Indiv.cust./project
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From MD04 , keep the cursor on corresponding planned order
& click on upward arrow ( available on bottom side of the report).
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Planned dates: 04.07.2010
MRP element No. 3100001185 (Sales Order No.)
MRP element item 100
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MRP element data- 3100001185/000100/0001
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P.O / Order Type u2013 ZX
Rec/reqd Quantity 10
MRP element u2013 Order
For new planned order generated, I am going to Screen *u201CProcurement without Requirementsu201D
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Planned date 03.07.2010
MRP element No. 0000123522 (Planned order No. of the newly generated after MRP Run)
MRP element Ind. u2013 PA
MRP element data 0000123522/SO
MRP element item 1
Scheduling No. 1
MRP segment 20
Plng segment u2013 3100001185000100000
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P.O/Order type- KD
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Firmed planned order and purchase requisition

Hi gurus,
could anyone explain firmed planned order and firmed purchase requisition, please based on the following detail questions.
1.when planned order was converted into PR, we call it firmed PR, right?
2.when manually change a PR and save it, we call it firmed PR, right?
3.are these the only 2 ways to firm PR? if not, what else?
4. how to firm planned order?
5. in MRP, the on-order stock is defined as "composed of fixed and firm receipt elements (PO, firm planned orders, firm purchase requisitions), while in MD04, we always see all the PR created by MRP running, are these newly created PR firmed automatically?
Thanks,
cookie

HI,
Check the link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_45B/helpdata/en/f4/7d2ca444af11d182b40000e829fbfe/frameset.htm
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Since your planning bucket start date is in the future, so this is normal that the system is trying to satisfy the demand in jan2012 bucket by creating a receipt on Dec23, 2011.
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Change firmed planned order to Unfirm Planned order

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if we change firmed planned order to unfirm planned order ,is there any effect on WIP and routing changes?
please respond with an answer.
Regards
Rekha
Edited by: REKHA MAHAJAN on Mar 31, 2008 1:34 PM

Hi Rekha ,
planned order Unfirmed -
will allow automatic changes with respect to requirement
planned order firmed -
Any manual change in the planned order is called firmed
and will not allow any automatic changes with respect to requirement
Planned order is just the requirement only there will no change in the WIP .
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if any doubt come back
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Vimalbalaji.J

REM Back flush using firmed planned orders

Dear Gurus,
We are using REM manufacturing process in SAP , we are doing backflush for stage wise confirmation and final confirmation.while doing this we are not referring any planned orders as reference.
if we update new part numbers in BOM the system asking for the availbilty of that particular new part numbers but physically we are having old materials .
we want to consume that old materials how it possible in the MFBF t.code.
if any one please help me , if I firmed a planned order with quatity or date then sytem will ask the old materials instead of new one.
pls explain what is planned orders and their impact on MRP ?
how we can firmed that planned, if i firmed what is the impact duirng backflushing?.
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Hi
please compare the process when you create the production order manually in Co01 instead of creating the production order by converting the planned order.
Here you are carrying out back flush with out refering the planned order.
It is like creating the production order manually.
In such case system will always look the BOM as of now.
It will not refer any of the planned order & the components there in.
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In this case you are back flushing with out reference to planned orders.System will not ask for old components at all whether planned order is firmed or not.
Once if planned order is firmed a star (*) mark will appear in MD04 near the planned order number.
Once if the planned order is firmed, it will not be changed in subsequent MRP Run.
Hope it is clear.
Pl. award if it is clear else pl. update.
Regards
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In the MF50-planning table firmed (as customized in REM-profile with parameter "Allways Firm")
planned orders are created manually also in the past/backlogs.
The MRP/program RMMRP000 is updating the production dates of these FIRMED orders to the actual date/today. Because of this the planned order is shown on the actual date in the MF50 instead of the original planned production date in the past..
Usually the MRP doesn't consider firmed orders regarding their quantities and basic-/production-dates. In our case the MRP is changing production dates what is not expected.
Do you have ideas about this ?!
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markus

Hi,
MRP-type is customized with firming-type '2-Automatic firming and order proposals rescheduled out'.
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Edited by: Markus Krauss on Aug 5, 2010 8:55 AM
Edited by: Markus Krauss on Aug 5, 2010 9:37 AM

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Withing our 30 days planning time Fence, MD04 is showing * mark against the planned order, but when we drill inside the planned order, Firming indicator is missing.
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