Making a business case to upgrade from PI7.1/nw2004s

Hi,
Can you help me to make good business case to goto PI7.0/nw2004s from XI3.0 SP19.
Regards
Raj

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***) 05.02.2009 - 12:34:33 CET - Reply by SAP
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