Managing filesize of images

Hello
Recently I was working on an A1 size sheet and exported it from Indesign as a jpg file. The settings were as follows
Output as CMYK
Resolution - 300dpi
The final image was huge! - a staggering 73 mb file.
On the other hand if I would have done the same work on photoshop with same resolution, then the image would have come at maximum of 20mb filesize.
What am I doing wrong while exporting the files?
I know settings for pdf exports, but for jpg exports, the settings are too less [as far as I have observed]. So, what is the solution to keep filesize minimum with best quality [in my case 300dpi]

Peter Spier wrote:
You'll get better results by exporting to PDF and rasterizing that in Photoshop.
I tried your method, it's not completely helpful. I want CMYK file. 300 dpi set on photoshop. 46 mb filesize is coming now. Can you give some other suggestions? If I send the pdf [exported from Indesign] to a guy at print shop. He'd be able to print it perfectly right? No font problems, nothing? pdf is coming of single a1 sheet as 24.3 mb

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