Managing iTunes Match iCloud Uploads

I have a lot of songs that are not in iTunes Store (e.g. mixtapes, remixes). Can I select which of these non-iTunes Store songs get uploaded to iCloud and which do not? Will it just upload songs at random until my allocated iCloud space is filled up?

Jim,
Thanks for this, appreciate it.
Of the previous ITL files, the latest is back at the start of June so reverting back to this isnt really an option as there have been mutiple changes and numerous cd's added to the library since then.
As i say, the music does appear to be in the cloud as i can access from other devices. Its just the icloud staus field is now blank int he library.
If i leave as is, i take it no mjaor issue or must i take corrective action to resolve?
Im concerned that with those files with a blank status field i select get info and it says "not yet processed by itunes match" however it does appear to be in the cloud after being uploaded previously.
Sorry for the hassle Jim.....
S.

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I have one album where the first track was uploaded, and the other eleven tracks are all tagged as "Duplicates." These tracks were not uploaded to the iCloud. How can I force iTunes Match to upload these eleven tracks erroneously tagged as Duplicates?

I'm adding my 2¢ because I just "discovered" iTunes Match yesterday and decided to subscribe thinking there was no downside (doh!).
Well, firstly, there's the enormous downside of Apple's structure not being able to keep up with (what they should have known would be) enormous interest... my iTunes has been matching for >20-hours and has yet to reach half-way up my library. BTW: I thought I read the iTunes Match info fairly thoroughly prior to subscribing and did not see anything about it being for songs vrs full library.
And secondly, and even more important to me, is that Apple's method of determining duplicate songs is not robust enough, especially for classical music and audio books (e.g., LoTR). I have >12000 "songs" in my library, and Match has determined a boatload are duplicates. They are not of course and even if Apple's duplicate-determining algorithm just looked at disc & track numbers it would "know" that. Anyway, there's a fairly good chance I will not have one complete album upload/match out of >500 albums. That's nae Scottish, in anybody's book.
Gotta say, using Garage Band to individually alter >2000 "songs" on the off-chance that may assist Apple's duplicate algorithm to be correct is not gonna happen. If, after the matching/uploading is complete, I still have >even 100-not-duplicate-songs listed as duplicates, I'm getting my $29.95 subscription back.
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I am having 2 big problems with itunes match / icloud - i welcome any advice!

So I finally have all my music itunes match / icloud and for the most part I am satisfied but I have 2 huge glaring problems I can't seem to fix. I emailed Apple and awaiting a reply but not holding out much hope there...
1. Compliation don't work right via itunes match / icloud - I have a few large compilations albums & they display correct on my local itunes library. I have the tags set right, I have normalized the album artists, made sure my genre's are clean, etc. but when I let this match / upload to itunes match / icloud - my compilations are repeated via icloud many times. I have a large compilations called "singles" & it displays perfect on my local itunes. But via icloud it's listed 5 times. I have tripled checked my tags and reset them again and again. No matter what I do, I can't get my compliation abums to show up just a single time in my icloud list.
Th problem is now that I am allowing my iphone and ipad's music to be managed by itunes match / icloud, these compliations are showing up on those devices 3-5 times for each. So my album list is one huge jumble of repeated Albums.
Any advice??
2. Album artwork missing - On my local itunes, I have good album artwork for all albums, but when I let these match and upload via itunes match / icloud, several albums lose their artwork when displaying or downloading to my IOS devices. So I end up with a lot of blank songs / albums. Also very annoying.
So, on the whole I like the itunes match / icloud service, but I really wish I could figure out how to solve these two problems. Any advice?

Stephen Banks wrote:
1. Compliation don't work right via itunes match / icloud...
If you have not already done so, I suggest set an Album Artist of "Various Artists" and make sure the "part of a compilation" option is selected in the metadata for the album. See if that helps the display.
Stephen Banks wrote:
2. Album artwork missing - On my local itunes, I have good album artwork for all albums, but when I let these match and upload via itunes match / icloud, several albums lose their artwork when displaying or downloading to my IOS devices. So I end up with a lot of blank songs / albums. Also very annoying.
Do a search on the forum. There are already several threads discussing this issue.

ITunes Match/iCloud issue.

I have itunes match and uploaded my libaray. There are songs that are not showing up on my phone which say are matched, aac, and 256 in itunes/cloud.

Hi,
I don't think that you have a similar issue to OP.
Mettelin wrote:
That means that iTunes Match is stripping out the Sample Rate when it uploads some tracks (even variable within albums) and then it gets stuck when you try to play the track.
Apple needs to fix this.
Match does not strip out the Sample Rate. If tracks are matched, it shows the standard sample rate of 44,100 but unknown when tracks are uploaded (probably because Apple does not capture this on such tracks). If you have an iCloud status of "Waiting" and a blank sample rate, this suggests that the match / upload process was not completed.
If you have not already solved your problem, I suggest that you delete those tracks and then read them to your iTunes library. Once you have matched or uploaded them, you can delete from your hard drive but not the cloud.
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Will iTunes Match re-upload songs replaced in Library at higher bitrate?

In my iTunes Library (18,000+ tracks, mainly ripped from my own CDs), I have tracks ripped at different bitrates, from 128, 160, 256, 320 kbps, as well as Apple Lossless. Given how cheap storage has become since I first ripped many of my CDs, I am going through my CD collection one last time and re-ripping everything into Apple Lossless (ALAC) format. I am starting with the tracks that are in the Library now at 128 & 160 kbps. Many of these songs have been matched by iTunes Match, so they are available to me from iTunes at 256 kbps, but I will still create ALAC versions.
My question is about the tracks that iTunes Match has uploaded to Apple. When I replace the tracks in my Library recorded at low bitrates with the ALAC version, I would like for iTunes Match to notice and re-upload the new file. I understand that iTunes Match will convert ALAC files and upload them at a max of 256 kbps, but right now it seems that iTunes Match does not recognize changes in the underlying file on my computer. For example, if a track was originally uploaded as 128 kbps and then I replace it in my Library with an ALAC version, the 128 kbps version stays on Apple's servers instead of being replaced by a 256 kbps version. I have tested this by downloading tracks from the cloud on other machines connected to my account and they come down at 128 kbps, even though an ALAC file is in the "master" Library.
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Hippogreen,
I chose not to follow your Item 4, ie, I am ripping new ALAC tracks directly over the lower bitrate tracks in my existing Library. I just did not want all the extra labor involved in recreating playlists when I reimport, and I did not want to lose the metadata of playcounts, date original imported to library, etc.
If you do as I am doing and want the new ALAC track to directly replace the existing ones in your Library, your Item 1 is relevant:
1) If I have heavily corrected the metadata of a track and it is substantially different from the info provided by iTunes (when I re-rip the CD into ALAC format), how will iTunes know that it is a duplicate? I assume I will have to manually de-duplicate in such a situation. I am thinking of uploaded rather than matched tracks.
Like you, I had heavily corrected and personalized metadata, including my preferred capitalizations (often very different from Gracenote and the automated data from iTunes!), track performers, etc. I wanted to preserve all of that, but if your tracks' metadata differs from that which is automatically supplied when you insert a CD, then iTunes will not offer to replace the existing tracks. The solution for me was an AppleScript I found at the fantastic website Doug's AppleScripts for iTunes (dougscripts.com). Get the script "Copy Track Info to CD Tracks v1.3". The URL is:
http://dougscripts.com/itunes/scripts/ss.php?sp=trackinfotocdtracks
This script copies all of your personailzed metadata to the CD tracks so that your own metadata is preserved while iTunes recognizes that the CD is already in your library and replaces the tracks. You can read the complete instructions at dougscripts.com and in the included documentation. It has been a lifesaver, and is truly the only way I have been able to move forward quickly re-ripping my CDs into ALAC.
Note also that when iTunes "replaces" the existing tracks with the new ALAC versions, it does not actually delete the original files. They remain in the same folder where originally stored, but they just become unlinked from the iTunes Library entries. The new files are linked to the iTunes entries, but you are not in danger of losing your original files. You have to go in and delete them manually if you want, or keep them.

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I wanted to let everyone know that after months of living with incorrect matches (mainly The Beatles in Mono), I've finally found a semi-easy workaround to force uploads. I haven't found this anywhere else, but if someone else has documented it, I apologize. I posted this onto one of the many threads regarding the issue quite some time ago (~ 6 months), but I wanted to make sure it was seen by as many as possible. (Sorry for the long post—skip anything you're not interested in! )
MY THEORY
The basis of this was noticing that there seemed to be discrete steps to the matching process (when adding via already-ripped FILES and not CD at least):
You add the files to iTunes
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iTunes scans the new files
iTunes reports that it is sending the file data to Apple
iTunes waits for a "Matched" or "No Match" response from Apple
If the response is "No Match," then iTunes triggers the upload
After observing this for some time, I concluded that if (edited) files could be imported that would give a definite "No Match" result, there may be time in-between steps 4 and 6 to replace the files with the real ones (which had been triggering a false match in the past). To my delight, this worked. Here's what I did:
STEP-BY-STEP:
Deleted existing files from iTunes/iCloud, but kept the files on the computer. I then moved these to a different folder.
Took existing files and converted them with dBpoweramp. This will cost money but is well worth it if you are looking for a way to force an upload to iTunes Match. I converted them using the same AAC settings (this doesn't matter), but added the "reverse" DSP, which reverses the audio. This has been enough to foil iTunes into not matching the track, while ensuring that each file will contain unique audio data. This will be quick and painless, at least for the first time. I did it this way because it will retain all of the tags AND length of the file. iCloud will get the file length from this step, and will not change it afterward...so you probably want to use files of the same length as the real ones.
Now I have a copy of the files with audio gibberish but still having correct metadata, etc. I then put these files in my "Automatically Add to iTunes" folder.
Right-clicked on these files and selected "Add to iCloud." If you use "Sort Album" like I do, you can change it before this step and it will upload into iCloud with the correct sort information. If done afterward, it doesn't usually sort correctly on my iPhone.
After iTunes displayed the message "Sending information to Apple" (don't remember the exact message), I pasted the original (correct) files and replaced my audio gibberish files. It is important to note that the filenames must be the same, e.g. "01 Come Together.m4a" if a single-disc, or "1-01 Back in the USSR.m4a" if multidisc. iTunes will also truncate the file name at 36 characters (I believe) so this will all need to be done beforehand. I use various MP3tag actions that I'd be happy to share if anyone wants them. If you are starting with a file that has already existed in your iTunes library, this will already be done (provided iTunes is managing the library).
When Apple returns a "No Match" signal back to iTunes, it then begins to upload the files which I have just pasted.
This has worked for me 100% if doing the upload one time. In some rare cases, I may decide to EQ a file and then re-upload, or otherwise edit the file. Or perhaps I have more than one version (original/remastered, or original mix/remix) that I want to coexist in my library. In those cases, I have again utilized the dBpoweramp "VST Plug-in" DSP, where I use something like Freq Show to garble the audio. It is necessary for the garbled audio to be unique each time for this to work.
A FEW THINGS I HAVE LEARNED
If you delete a file and wish to re-upload it, you can use the same files from step 2 (provided you still have them) and iTunes will recognize them as the files previously uploaded. I am not sure how long this works, but your uploaded music remains in iCloud, though invisible, for some time — even if you selected "Delete from iCloud."
iTunes/iCloud evidently does use metadata (at least Album) to help determine if you've already uploaded a song within the same album. I ran into this when trying to test an EQ/level change I had made, and even though the audio content was completely different, iTunes would not upload or would flag as duplicate. If I altered the Album field in any way it would proceed. Other tags can be kept the same.
If you do have mono content, it is trivial to use the dBpoweramp "Channel Mapper" DSP to remove one channel during the conversion from lossless to AAC. The nice thing is, I encode with Nero AAC quality 0.65 (~250 kbps VBR) and this will reduce the file size significantly. There is no real advantage to keeping both channels, since you're doing a lossy conversion anyway. Sometimes the encoders (even very good ones) don't see the file as being mono, due to different artifacts and noise in the left and right channels. Or perhaps the mono tape was transfered with a stereo tape deck, etc. Try it yourself and see if it makes a difference. Also, iTunes will report the file as "mono" when you do "Get Info." I keep the FLAC disc image/tracks in stereo so it will exactly match the CD, but only encode one channel to lossy. If you know the source is mono for sure then there is no possible advantage to keeping both channels of a lossy conversion. (If you're not sure if the source is mono, use your favorite DAW, e.g. Audacity, to invert the phase of one channel before combining left and right. Once you do that, if all that is left is very low-level noise or other artifacts, then you know it is safe to encode as mono.)
IF YOU CARE ABOUT MASTERING
It is also worth noting that if you care about what mastering you have in your iTunes library, there is no other way I know of to guarantee you have the correct version in your iCloud library except to upload it. I found this out the hard way: I had a retail CD version of Paul McCartney's "RAM" album that was recently remastered. I put the CD in, added to my library, and iTunes Match quickly returned with "Matched" for all tracks. Some time later I was listening with headphones and noticed that some tracks had hardly any hiss at all, whereas others had a good amount of it. Since "RAM" is a rather hissy album, I investigated it against the CD and finally found that many of the tracks were being matched to other versions of the song (either from the earlier CD version or compilations with different mastering). So most of the tracks were hit with heavy noise reduction for the iCloud version. I had to follow this upload procedure to be sure that I got the right version. Purchasing the item(s) from the iTunes store would work also, but I had already paid $100 for the deluxe box set. This same problem occured with the Bob Dylan mono box. I was surprised to find that iTunes actually matched my mono versions to mono versions, and continued listening until one day the stereo version played on a certain track instead of the mono. So, even if the iTunes store has the mix/mastering that you are wanting to add to iCloud, the only sure way is to upload it (or purchase it from iTunes in the first place.) If given the choice going forward I would choose the latter, since I am not hung up on physical media and cannot tell a 256K iTunes store encode apart from a FLAC file in a double blind test (almost nobody can).
This has been bothering me for months. I'm really happy to be able to play my correct files on all my devices! For those of us who have unique versions or masterings of albums we prefer, this should be a workaround until Apple decides to give us a "force upload" option. I have tested this on Windows 7 primarily. Should work on any OS.
Hope everyone finds this useful!
Nick

I wanted to first thank you for this, as this is the only workaround literature that seems to be floating around out there. With that said, I know it is a big ask, but is there any way that you could create a video showing step by step how to do what you do? I have several tracks that are stuck in waiting mode, and if left in itunes, will never upload or match...they only cause the upload process to hang up and restart. I've tried leaving it for days...I've tried converting the files, signing in and out of itunes (and itunes match), updating itunes match, and I tried your technique...unfortunately to no avail. Perhaps I didn't do your technique correctly. I used audacity to reverse the audio.
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Windows right click iTunes Match iCloud option missing

Hi there
Running a PC on Windows 7
In itunes I've noticed that when I right click on a song that hasn't uploaded the iCloud options have gone
Anyone else got this issue and a fix for it?
Should I just reinstall iTunes? or is this a known bug with a fix on the way?
Many thanks

Andrewdoc74 wrote:
In itunes I've noticed that when I right click on a song that hasn't uploaded the iCloud options have gone
That's because the track is now available in the cloud. You need to enable the iCloud Status column to see then status of the song. Pull down View > View Options, select "icloud status" and click OK. After the initial scan, match and upload process has completed you will see one of two statuses on a track: "matched" or "uploaded." Neither of these will have the "add to icloud" option in the contextual menu. Andy songs that are "waiting" still need to be processed by iTunes Match.
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Force iTunes Match to Upload/Match Duplicates?

Is there a way to get iTunes Match to match/upload a track listed with the icloud status duplicate? Say you have an album of an artist and then a greatest hits from them too and you would not like a track to be missing when trying to play that album on another computer or device. Sometimes this doesn't happen and it uploads/matches anyways. It's nice that it find duplicates and but it would be nice to say, "hey, I want it to be there." I've tried to add it again and that rarely works.

Hi Bob,
I have posted a workaround for forcing uploads, and I did address the "Duplicate" message in my post. Please take a look at it and let me know if it answers your questions or gives you a starting point. I've been testing different things with Match and it sure has its quirks. In my experience, I would need to make a change to the metadata (often just changing the album to something slightly different) to get around the endless "Waiting" stage.
Here's my workaround to allow a 'forced upload': https://discussions.apple.com/message/20401295#20401295
Hope it helps!
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Both music libraries on the two macbooks are identical with all of the songs physically downloaded to both hard drives. I am in the process of turning one macbook into a strictly work computer without music to free up space. However, when I go to delete songs from that macbook, I am notified that the song will be deleted across all of my devices. I still want all of my music on the other macbook as well as my iPhone and iPad. How can I delete my music library from my "strictly work" macbook without losing it across all of my other devices?

Hi,
1. Yes, if you deleted the tracks from the cloud, they would no longer be available in Match on your IOS devices. However, you will still have the tracks on your first computer BUT the Icloud Status would be "Removed".
2. Yes you can turn off match then delete the tracks from the computer. This should not affect music in Match and I believe the message about removing tracks refers to devices that you sync with that computer. If in future you wish to stream music on your works computer, you can re-activate match.
PS You should as a matter of course back up your music on an external drive!
Jim

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I just got itunes match,
I let it do its thing for a few hours and it started to upload the music.
Then my interent crashed because the bell lines in my aera suck some times. and now I'm trying to get it to work again and it just stays at the point after
step 1 Sending to apple.
Now, I went out of the house and I went and did some shoping and I got this error when I got back
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I purchased Itune match it matched about 9432 songs and the remaining 1432 it did not got to step 3 of uploading and its been 3 days just keeps saying uploading 1 of 1432 . i have restarted itunes , tried on different ISPs etc no luck what gives , on top of that on my iphone since i turned on match my play lists dont show up . when i try to synch with match off still my play lists do not show up ?

Don't know what fantasy planet bigAl_25 lives on. It does not work consistently for anyone that has a substantial library period. If your lucky, you get 6 songs before it freezes up. Know countless people that have it. Don't know a single person that it works for consistently (on an Iphone) who has a substantial library. I have to run with my Nano because it doesn't work. I have had Apple products since 1984, I know how to trouble shoot issues. There is no current solution. Like other posters, I have tried every single possible fix, including all of those recommended here. It's just not ready for prime time. Until it is, it will continue to be be hit and miss, with the only temporary fixes being to go back to menu, select different mix, or playlist. If that doesn't work, quit app. If that doesn't work, restart the phone. One of these will probably solve your problem, but again only temporarily for about 6 songs, and the cycle repeats itself. You do get a little bit better results over WiFi and if you download all the songs to the iphone before you roll the playlist, but again inconsistent at best. Best idea, worst implementation. I'm sure Apple will eventually fix it. Until then it is hit and miss. I don't care about the $25 (but won't renew if not working when my year is up), just want it to work. GET WITH IT APPLE. Match is a home run, devote more resources to getting the bugs out.

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