Manual Cost tranfer to copa segment ?

I want to know is it possible to transfer the cost from one cost center to COPA Segment
without Allocation cycle (KEU5) ?
Thanks
Nilesh

Hi,
It is not possible
Siva

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Dear Experts,
Our client's requirement is to take profitability branch wise, department wise.
Can we use Cost Center or we can enable account segmentation. Which is the best way.
As per SAP notes, it is stated that account segmentation is used for branch wise, region wise, department wise arriving balance sheet, profitability.
Which will be the appropriate way. What is the advantage and disadvantages if we cost center or account segmentation.
Thank You,
Sundaram R

Hi Senthil, this is what I have experienced.
Segmentation may be mandatory in USA, for other countries they are optional.
For some who are playing the role of accountant in the company, they find it hard to comprehend the segmentation rule. In which case it is best to convert their current single segment profit center oriented chart of account to map into SAP B1.
Segmentation may be too complicated for smaller companies and one or two ware houses, mainly because to best use the segmentation, the accounts in G/L determination and warehouse determination and item determination need to be configured properly for segmented chart of account. At times the customer will have to choose a segment for manual JE, and it is not that simple if they are not used to the idea of segments.
There will be situations when certain segments do not make sense and yet you need to have them as zeros or something common while implementing it. You may end up creating too many segments or too few at the beginning. If too many it is not a good sight with useless accounts, if too few, they creating new accounts needs planning.
I would leave the option to customer and as consultant it also depends upon your own experience.
Hope that helps.

Inter company COGS and Cost Components in COPA

Looked at so many threads but couldn't find a proper answer.
Scenario: Company B in Canada books a sales order, delivering from a Plant in Company A in US. US bills Canada at Cost + Mark up.
In US:
On Goods issue COGS is booked based on std in US (say $10)
On Inter company billing - (Cost + 20% mark up) Inter company receivable is $12, this triggers a payable on Canada side.
In Canada:
We can have $12 booked as COGS when Payable entry is created in Canada through IDOC. so Accounting is OK.
How can I have this COGS of $12 posted in COPA ? Somewhere I read to use two condition types for VPRS, but unfortunately we cant do that as we have revenue recognition activated. only VPRS condition values comes through revenue recognition lines.
Since Delivering plant in US has a Standard cost of $10, VPRS is $10 in sales order and COPA gets the cost components from US plant, which is not correct. How can I have the mark up of $2 reflected in Cost components in COPA ?.
Assuming that I create a standard Cost estimate in a virtual Plant in Canada for $12 with two cost components for $10 and $2. Is it possible to manipulate VPRS on sales order to point to standard cost from this virtual plant and create a costing key to bring the cost split from this virtual plant into COPA. Has anybody tried this ?
Thanks in advance.
Krishna

Hi Krishna
1. Does this material always necessitates a supply from US company??
If yes, then your task is easy.. Create a Costing Key and assign to such materials in KE4H... In this Costing Key, do not tick the radio button "Use Line Item Plant as Cost estimate Plant".... Instead, You can specify the default PLANT to be used for reading the Cost Estimates in the field "Specify Cost estimate PLant"
You can use the above solution in case you go with Virtual Plant also
2. Are you saying that the VPRS in Sales order punched in Canadian comp code is 10 USD because the Delivery Plant is in US comp code?
I dont know how does Revenue recog behave in your case and when does VPRS (COGS) flow to COPA.... As you said, VPRS gets the feed from RR, so will manually manipulating the VPRS in sales order help you??
Anyways, the 2nd solution is as below... Few companies have used it
There is an output type in SD called RD04... I may not be fully right here, you can take it as RD0*... Ask your SD guy to identify the right output type
Using this, When you do the PGI in Canadian Comp code,
................. All this happens in background automatically...............
you can create a Virtual STO on USA Comp code....
USA does PGI and the stock virtually comes in Canadian Comp code
Then PGI happens from Canadian Comp code
................. All this happens in background automatically...............
This is a change in your process... The delivery plant for all practical purposes becomes Canadian Plant (only on paper)... Your Physical process can continnue as Delivery from USA...
This solution was adopted when both the companies were in same country.... Check with your business how far is it possibie for you
3. Last option would be to use valuation exit COPA0002.... I dont know how you would use it considering you have RR in place....
Be very careful in doing this
br // Ajay M

Allocation of Costs from Cost center to COPA

Hi
We are booking costs to a Cost Center with reference to a Primary Cost Element. However, in month end, the same cost has to be transferred to COPA. One of the Characteristics in COPA is also Profit Center.
The issue is that we can allocate costs from Cost centers to COPA through Assesement Rule, system requirement is for Assesement Cost Element, which is a secondary Cost element. In such a case, the PCA Balances, after execution of Assesement cycle are shown with the Secondary Cost Elements.
In a case, I have booked costs of INR 100000 in a cost center 103007 against a Primary Cost Element 423101. Since Profit Center 103007 is assigned in Cost Center 103007, the Profit Center Line Items will show a balance of INR 100000 against cost element 423101 for Profit Center 103007.
After this at month end, we need to allocate costs from Cost Center to COPA. But the requirement is that after allocation also, the balances should be shown against Cost Element 423101 for Profit Center 103007
Regards
Sanil

Hi Sanil
That is not possible.. There is no "Distribution cycle" available for COPA.. In COPA you can have either an Assessment Cycle or an Indirect Act Allocation or a Template Allocation...
I dont know about template allocation as I have never used that, but gut feel says even that wont serve the purpose...
One work around is you allocate from Cost Center to an Internal Order using Distribution cycle... Then Allocate from IO to COPA using assessment... In order to use IO as sender in allocation cycle, use note 605281
At best, what you can do is to use an Allocation Structure instead of one single assessment cost element per Segment... Using an Alloc Str, you can map, say, GL Accounts for Basic Salary, DA, HRA to one Secondary cost element... This way, create logical groupings of GL accounts and map to multiple secondary cost elements
But bear in mind, The more you use Secondary cost elements, the more will be the line items in CE1XXXX table...
Regards
Ajay M

FIDCC2, filling COPA segment?

Hello,
I am working on a FIDCC2 interface from a SAP system to another. The account document is send to another SAP system when releasing the invoice. The interface works perfect and bookings are made in the other system.
But in the receiving system also a COPA segment must be filled (The sending doesn't use COPA). This is not filled with FIDCC2.
How can I fill the COPA segment in the receiving system? Using a user-exit from the FIDCC2-message type or a user-exit in FB01? And if yes how? Is there a function module to fill the COPA segment?
With regards,
Frank Roels

Hi,
No, I was referring more to the whole section titled "Data should be sent to all applications". I have had a similar problem to you - using FIDCC2 and requiring posting of a Profit Center Doc and a Controlling Document. And I've finally made it work!!
Basically, you need to implement user exit EXIT_SAPLF050_008 and set both 'I_COMP' and 'I_COMP_CHECK' to blank. I don't know what version of SAP you're on, but this will apparently work for versions less than 4.7 (I can't confirm this).
For versions 4.7 onwards (I'm doing this on ECC 6.0) it gets a little more complicated. For a start, you will need to make sure note 892366 is implemented in your system. This adds changing parameter 'I_SUBSET' to the user exit.
Then, in the user exit, set 'I_COMP' and 'I_COMP_CHECK' to blank as before, and set value of 'I_SUBSET' to 'COPA' (this may need to be something different for you depending on what you're trying to achieve). In addition, I have set field 'RESERVE' in IDoc segment E1FIKPF to the same value 'COPA' (although it appears to work without this). I fill field KOSTL (cost centre) in segment E1FISEG and now I get both Profit Centre Doc. and Controlling Document generated. Yay!!
(you might also need to fill PRCTR in the segment... might depend on config).
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Is there any way how we can transfer the split valuation material cost estimate into COPA?
I checked the actual line items, there is no "valuation type / batch" characteristics there.
Is this the main cause?
Please kindly suggest on the best way to solve this issue
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Hi, Ajay
Does this mean that, even though i manage to create the valuation type as characteristic in COPA, i won't be able to get 2 different cost estimate based on valuation type into COPA?
Hm, then, are there any solutions which can be done to solve this issue?
The client needs a COPA report which can show the breakdown of the sold materials cost estimates
As usual, thank you very much for your help
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SAP_BASIS     700     0012
SAP_ABA     700     0012
PI_BASIS     2006_1_700     0002
ST-PI     2005_1_700     0005
SAP_BW     700     0012
SAP_AP     700     0008
SAP_HR     600     0007
SAP_APPL     600     0008
EA-IPPE     400     0006
EA-APPL     600     0006
EA-DFPS     600     0006
EA-HR     600     0007
EA-FINSERV     600     0006
FINBASIS     600     0006
EA-PS     600     0006
EA-RETAIL     600     0006
EA-GLTRADE     600     0006
ECC-DIMP     600     0006
ERECRUIT     600     0006
FI-CA     600     0006
FI-CAX     600     0006
INSURANCE     600     0006
IS-CWM     600     0006
IS-H     600     0006
IS-M     600     0006
IS-OIL     600     0006
IS-PS-CA     600     0006
IS-UT     600     0006
SEM-BW     600     0006
P3A     V600     0003
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Msg. error BK048 for manual cost allocation

Hi,
we got a warning message for manual cost allocation (KB15N), when posting this allocation just with a quantity and without an amount. We would like to post this allocation without amount and therefore need to change the message type from warning (W) to information (I), to do this posting.
When using transaction OBA5, there is just a fixed and not adjustable value for Standard with "W". Do you know any workarounds or how we can change this message type to do this posting?
Regards
Florian

Hi Florian,
HAve you assigned users in OBA5?.
Go to OBMSG, for this particular Message number in the allowed message types, specify IWE etc. In the standard column specify I. Also you could check on check box "Switch Off" if you want to have the option of not seeing the message at all.
Now goto OBA5, against the message number, in the "Online" column , specify I or - (Switch Off) and do the same in the BAtchl column also.
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Susan

Transferring results of material cost estimates to COPA

Hi,
I heard that it is possible to transfer the standard prices of materials estimated in material cost estimate to COPA.
Which transation is used for this purpose?
Regards,
Karol

Karol,
Incase of made to stock scenario, there is no specific transcation code to transfer the stanadrad price of a material to COPA it gets automatically transferred to COPA when the billing document are released to accounts.
The variance in the production order if any will be transferred to COPA when theproducion order is finally settled.

Material cost estimation in COPA

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I have question regarding how details of cost Estimate will flow to COPA Report.
Variance of Product cost will flow in COPA through PA Transfer Structure and its flowing on my report. However, I want to flow COGM (break up of the cost components) on COPA reports.
I have done below steps but itu2019s not flowing.
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Hi Srinu,
By activating Material Ledger without knowing about it and without knowing it's relevancy to the client's business process....YOU DID A BLUNDER MISTAKE
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I don't really know how to describe my problem, so I will instead describe my situation of what I need to do.
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I hope this will work out for your problem
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I am a bit confused . . .
Regards,
Ravi Kumar

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Dear Vignesh,
From where I check that the SLA is enabled? because I am new and not the part of implementation.
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