Master data loads vs attr change runs

Hi experts,
I need to load master data daily and want to know the difference between attribute change runs and process chains for master data. Please explain with steps. I know how to create process chains.

Attribute change run is nothing but adjusting the master data after its been loaded from time to time so that it can change or generate or adjust the sid's so that u may not have any problem when loading the trasaction data in to data targets.
Whenever master data attributes or hierarchy is loaded an attribute chnage run need to be performd due to the following reasons:
1. When a master data is changed/updated it gets loaded into the master data table as version "M"(modified). It is only after a attribute chnage run that the master data becomes activated i.e. version "A".
2. Master data attributes and hierachies are used in cube aggregates also. So to do update the latest master data attributes values in the aggregtes attribute change run need to be performed.
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There is any difference between master data activation and attribute change run

Hi,
Master data activation is activating the master data once you extract the data from source system the data will be in inactive state, so in order to make the data available we will activate the master data.
Attribute change run :Its used to update the newly changed master data records to the Hierachies and aggregates.
If you are already using the available master data in aggregates in InfoCubes, you cannot activate the master data individually. In this case we will use attribute change run.
For attribute change run we have direct tcode: RSATTR or In the main menu, choose the path Tools Hierarchy/Attribute Change.
regards
KP

Attr change run cannot preceed Data Load?

Hi, all
I need to make attr change run before loading data, because these active MD should be used in data loading routines. When checking this chain BW shows message " A type "Attribute Change Run" process cannot precede process "Execute InfoPackage" var. ZPAK_E5NXARYHE6BXRST2FD3YZAN7B in the ch".
Why? Is that because change run only activated and chain doesnt wait for change run end and starts next process?
Or I can suppress this warning?

2 Gopikrishna eriki 
Why? I think it isn't for no particular reason.
2AHP
normaly attribute/hierarchy change run is performed after all data loading finished, it should put after the infopackage process.

But here I need to schedule another load after this change run. And I want to use results of this change run in this load.
BTW, when running this chain I have dump on this infopackage load with OPEN_DATASET_NO_AUTHORITY on lines
OPEN DATASET L_PFILENAME FOR INPUT IN TEXT MODE
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Attr Change Run Master Data Infoobject PChain

In the master data process chain process type Attribute Change Run which is usually at the end of the chain updates the changes in the master data infoobjects.
The Chain is usually designed with full infopacks and say if it is scheduled every night , isn't it loading the master data again ( duplicating ) and again even though considering the process type Attribute Change Run at the end.
Is it like just the attribute change run is executed for updates ?If thats the case why do we need a process chain for Masterdata...if its only one time full ..that can be done manually right?
Am I missing something here ...?

If you look at the detail in the Monitor for a Master Data load, it will tell you how many recordssent from R/3 and how many records were updated and inserted.
As far as static master data that deos not regularly have new records or changes - you're right you don't need to load those objects daily, they could be loaded perhaps monthly.
You might consider balancing how fancy you try to get with breaking up master data into different groups, loading some daily, and other sweekly, others monthly, etc. In our case we use to have a fairly elaborate master data load schedule, loading someobjects 1st Tuesday of the month, others 2nd, Tues, others 3rd etc, and then we had weekly loads and dailys. When I began to review the run times involved, it was apparent that the various monthly loads, in total, ran less than 10 minutes, so I just consolidated the 4 differently monthly maser data loads and the weekly loads all into a single process chain. While much of the this master data doesn't change much, it was much easier to just schdule mastr data either daily or weekly, rather than getting too elaborate.
Now if run time of master data loads or change runs sarts to become an issue, then you might have to adopt a more elaborate schedule. It really depends on your environment.

Attr change run

Hi guys;
Is there a program to run the att change run. I have several att and hier loading via process chain and I want to execute the program if we have any to execute the attr change run at the end of the process chain. I came accross with RSDDS_AGGREGATES_MAINTAIN, is this the correct one?
thank you.

Hi,
yes, its the right one.
To avoid activating all pending infoobjects and rollup in aggregates, which can take hours if you have many and big aggregates, create a variant where you select the infoobjects and hierarchies from your process chains. You can trigger an event after successfull loading and laoding with failures. You can select this variant in the process step.
Othwerwise you may risk that another load process may abort because the locks for master data cannot be set because of the change run.
Kind regards,
Juergen

Master Data Loads

Hello,
Some of my master data loads failed. It gives me following error:
Lock NOT set for: Loading master data attributes
Attributes for characteristic " " are locked by a terminated change run
what is this lock? how to rectify the same? what can be cause of this problem.
Regards,

Hi Abhijit,
You can go to RS12 and see the status of the locks of the master data. You can even delete the locks there though not advisable. The chances are that attr/hier change might have been running for some info-obj which was causing the problem.
You could now try 2 things:
1. Try the load again. OR
2. Delete the locks and then try the load.
Bye
Dinesh.

Error in Setting lock for Master Data Load

Hi Team,
I encounter the following error while uploading the Masterdata
"Lock NOT set for: Loading master data attributes
Attributes of characteristic 0BPARTNER are locked by terminated change run 465451241"
I Performed the following steps
1) Checked if any active jobs (change run jobs) running in the system. But no jobs running.
2) RSATTR->infoobject list-> no infoobject found
3)Tried after sometime ,but load continue to fail
Could anyone help to solve the problem
thanks
Bala

Hi Bala,
Check in SM12 if there are any locks exist with the change run number?
First check if there are any Master data loads running related to it?
Check in the Attribute change run screen if there are any change run steps are running?
Once after checking the above if no locks exist and no master data is running then check the below steps
1. Run RSA1 transaction
2. Tools -> Apply Hierarchy/Attibutes Change(or direct transaction RSATTR)... menu option
3. Click at "Monitor and Start terminated Change Runs" button (at the bottom of the screen)
4. Click "Reset Status" button at Run ID 465451241
NOTE: this is not recommended, to unlock the locks better to wait till the locks get relased.
If still the error message persists then we can use a FM in se37 in serious cases which was not recommended by SAP...
Use RSDDS_AGGR_MOD_CLOSE in se37 and execute--->there give ur failed change run no(465451241) beside I_CNSID and execute...
It releases all the locks by that change run....and continue with your further work/jobs...
Regards
KP

Master Data Loaded but not able to see.

Loaded master data successfully. Able to see it in P and M table, but not able to see when going thru Manage - Contents at InfoProvider level.
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Hi Sarabjit,
Welcome to SDN!!
You need to load the transaction data into the Info-provider to see the contents and not just the master data.
In case you have done the transaction load then you need to do the "apply hier/attr change" for the master data loaded. Goto RSA1 -> Tools(menu) -> apply hier/attr change -> Seelect your info-object and execute.
Bye
Dinesh

Attr change run in Process chain!

Hi,
For uploading Master data, we do have different process chains ( Eight to Nine ) for each client and for each source system!
Now the requireement is such that there must be only two Two process chains one for daily uploads and another for weekly uploads!
i coule create a Meta chain which shall be calling all the daily upload Process chains in series!
But what about the attribute change runs?
i had actually included this Attr change run process for each client comibing the other process chains ( Attr, Texts and Hierarchy )
Now since the modelling has been changed for the daily and weekly process chains, i am puzzled about the attribute change run processes!
Because we have lot of infoobjects which are existing in both the clients
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Raj

Hi Raj,
You can solve your problem in 2 ways :
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The source system for my current project is BW, but if you have done any automated master data loads from any other system or even from a "temp" table please post your solution or tips.
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Would like to chime in with some of the things I've learned about this process over 3-4 years I've spent with BPC/Outlooksoft:
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Master data loading in BPC NW 7.5

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I am trying to load master data from BW into BPC using the packages provided in BPC7.5.
Master data infoobject in Bw is compounded with 3 other objects.2 of them dont have any master data tables.All they have is a text table(T table).
When i run the package i get a warning saying compounded object1 is empty.
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Hi,
The document is for BPC when they didnt have the new process chains to load master data.Now they have 2 new process chains.One to load master data attributes and texts and the other one to load Hierarchy.And these 2 packages support compounded info objects too.
I was able to load profit center attr/texts/hierarchy into BPC although it was compounded to Controlling Area.This wasnt an issue because Controlling Area had master data defined. meaning it had P table and M table created.
But my issue is for this new master data load i am trying to do the compounded info object doesnt have master data tables.And thats causing an issue.It says Master data table for 0Division is empty.
I want to know if there is any workaround in BPC for this issue.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
KK

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Master Data Loading in Process Chain

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and Module dependence are there ?
Like First load SD then MM like please guide me
Regards,
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Hi.......
Welcome to SDN.........
It is also possible to load like this:
load attributes
change run load texts in parallel
because chnage run and texts don't disturb each other.
If you want also to load hierarchies the following order is recommended:
load attributes
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texts at last or in parallel with changerun.
And for loading diiffterent area...........first tell me which architecture you are using..........split or LSA........
as per ur update u didnt mentioned the type of architecture wheather it split,or,LSA or some other thing which u are useing,
if you use Split architecture the load ,GD,DP,FC from FC completion of master data COPA will start so Complusary load FC first ,,u can run simulateanously (GD,DP,FC)it will be no problemand have to cross check about configuration of ur server also ,later you can start pp,tp in case of HR it will be total independent so check when u want to load
IN Case of LSA (layerd Scaleable architecture) first laod Masterdata .. which will same for all the Process areas (like 0costcenetr,0employee) later start the Trancation data which you feel which is important as per my knowledege go for FC in turn COPA because usually reports morely based on FC and COPA
Hope this helps......
Thanks==Points as per SDN........;)
Regards,
Debjani..........
Edited by: Debjani Mukherjee on Oct 22, 2008 4:03 PM

Master Data Load - Number records not match

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& How r u ?
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I use to load master data for 0Customer_Attr though daily process chain, it was running successfully.
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Hi
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This time the load will fail with update mode R.
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So, now, the only thing you can do is to reinit the delta(as told in above posts) and then you can proceed. The earlier problem has nothing to do with update mode R.
example your fiorst delta failed with replication issue.
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One more thing I would like to add is.
If the the delat which failed with error the first time(not update mode R), then
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Regards
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