Matrox Axio LE and DVCPRO HD

Is anyone editing DVCPRO HD with the Axio LE system. How do you like the video quality when you get it out to standard DVD?
Thanks,
Mark Voigt

I think Adobe has something going with Dolby. There isn't any reason we couldn't produce an MPEG2-ts with PCM audio multiplexed in, as you were once able to do so in CS2.
While this does not address any lack of PCM in MPEG, the "encoder" that you are talking about is the Minnetonka SurCode DD 5.1 SS encoder. It is licensed through Dolby labs, but the "deal" is with Minnetonka Audio. Actually, if one purchases that encoder for DD 5.1 SS, they get a better price by doing it from PrPro vs doing so from the Minnetonka Web site.
One should still be able to Export as AC3 (stereo) from PrPro without having to bother with the SurCode encoder. As I do not have CS3, I cannot confirm this, but the SurCode is just for DD 5.1 SS Audio.
Also, as most of my Projects are DD 5.1 SS (using the SurCode plug-in), I have not even tried to multiplex to PCM/WAV, so cannot comment on that end.
Good luck,
Hunt

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Certainly. I got it yesterday, and at least for now, I couldn't be happier. Perhaps I'm jinxing it by posting this, but hopefully it will help others without a giant budget to decide for a decent output card instead of a piece of junk like the Intensity Pro, especially since the Max version is $600 at B&H right now for a month or two.
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The BMI was even worse when scrubbing. While Premiere is pretty bad at scrubbing compared to Edius, the perfomance with the BMI was hillarious. I would go up and down the timeline and the monitor window in the GUI would get stuck sometimes, but the TV set with the signal from the BMI was like a guy in really bad shape trying to catch up to the cursor, and lagging several seconds behind. It was like "Hey dude, let me catch my breath, don't move that mouse so fast, I'm just a itty bitty card with a slow processor!" The MXO2 output signal moves along with my hand, again, with only the lag caused by the TV set.
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1) Audio scrubbing... audio cannot be heard on a per frame basis, usually audio is heard every three frames or so. Apparently this has not been fixed.
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http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/132/860478
http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/132/860397
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Thanks, everyone, for your input and helping me think through this...

Thanks X. Why not HQ? Too much disk space for no quality benefit?
Where do editors get to fire the director who didn't think through the post issues?
Seriously, I'm not complaining. This actually is not as bad as the one-hour show which was shot with five cameras: two XDCAM, one HDV, one three-chip DV and one one-chip DV...

Mixing HDV and DVCPRO HD footage in a timeline?

Can this be done in FCP 6?
Thanks.

But you would have to render one or the other depending what you sequence settings are.
Not with FCP 6 David. You can mix formats on the same timeline without rendering. That is the point of the mixed format timeline. BUT...he is right, eventually, before you output, you will have to render something. If your sequence settings are DVCPRO HD, then the HDV will have a light or dark green render bar above it. WOrkable for editing, but in the end you will have to render before you output.
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Dennis,
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