MBP 17' Core 2 Duo vs G5 Dual 2.5

Hi,
Time's come for me to upgrade my Powerbook. I am thinking of the top-of-the-line machine now for audio and video. Can someone, please, tell me how this MBP fares against PowerMac G5 Dual 2.5 (not dual core, but dual processor)? Any comments about speed comparison etc will be very much appreciated.

is that really true with respect to hard drive?
I can't say for audio although for video, it can make a substantial difference. The problem with video is that it require four things…
1) CPU performance
2) GPU performance
3) RAM
4) Hard drive performance
… to running optimally. Once you break that symbiotic relationship by having any one of these underperforming then the balance is disproportionately affected.
Hard drives are always going to be the weak link in this chain as a 10% variance in performance is a disproprtionate difference to say 10% CPU performance. If you look at Doug Lerner2's startup "test" by counting how many times the wheel goes around. This in actual fact a good test for your CPU/hard drive balance as booting is both CPU and drive heavy. My MBP does it usually in 9-10 rotations. My Mac Pro does it in 3. Granted I've got an extra processor and 3 drives extra (4 drive RAID) although booting off a single PATA drive drags it out to 5-6 rotations. There are degrees of "scary fast".
what other things are fundamentally different about a laptop architecture that actually put them in a different class, apart from bus speed?
Two things that cannot be gotten around… size and wattage. Both of which have strict controls for "how much" they can be. To give a comparison, look at the difference 1" extra in drive size gives yet you could never use a 3.5" drive in a laptop. Then consider that the ATi X1900 XT graphics card in my Mac Pro alone can consume 130W… that's more than your MBP in total! Additionally that's only 10% of the total wattage you can run through a Mac Pro. Then again, my MBP weigh 2.5kg where my MP weighs 25kg (which doesn't count the display or anything else) and is putting a hole in my floor as well as my electrical bill.
Don't get me wrong… the MBP is a fantastic portable package. No doubt about it and it does compete extremely well against many desktop system.

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