MBP 3.1 late 2007 temperature issues

So I have a 3+ year old MBP running 10.6.0 (after several reinstalls thinking the issue was a 3.6.5 or 3.6.6 upgrade) I finally realized my machine was really hot all the time (when it would boot at all). Odd since I normally keep a third party fan controller leveraged against the MBP's ridiculous heat loads. I now suspect a dead fan, but I don't know how to tell if a fan is working or not. My fan controller shows both fans ramping up as temp rises into the 90+C range (and beyond) for the simplest processes (like installing the newest python package). I can HEAR at least 1 fan going to extremes and I can FEEL the temp rising on the bottom of the case, but I can't tell if something else is wrong or if only one fan is turning. Is there a way to tell if both the fans are spinning without taking the case apart while operating?
Thanks in advance for the help.
-Q
PS: temp while running one window of Chrome used to write this post and the fan controller / temp monitor results in a steady 45C / 114F temp.

Thanks for the link, a brody, I'll run the Apple Hardware Test momentarily.
The original symptoms were screen artifacts (in the form of blue vertical bars in all black areas), followed immediately by an all screen freeze (with a mouse I could move but not use), and a freakishly hot case (waaay hotter than normal in Mac OS X).
Originally thinking it was a GPU problem (either a driver from the recent updates, or a hardware failure) I went around and around trying to find a solution.
I noticed my MBP worked fine for about 30 minutes then the artifacts and system crash returned. The only fix is to leave it off for a while then turn it on. I have been able to keep it running by monitoring system temp and keeping it below 90C.
Thus I conclude my fans aren't cutting it, and the fan controller reports fan speed based off what speed the fans are being told to run at, not actual rpms.
I'll run AHT and report my findings.
Thanks
-Q

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