MBP fan controle?

hi all...
In a topic of today we where talking about the fan-control option, but I lookt for it in my folders but, cant find it any where, so mabey some one can tel me where i can find this tool becaus my system is getten hot... lets say to hot for my standard... in this contorle it is posibel to ajust your fan-speed. so this option i like.
grtz scereb

It is an option you may like, but it is potentially hazardous. See my User Tip:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=3697752&#3697752
Before attempting to venture into such utilities.

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MBP overheating, fan control apps not working

Hi, everyone.
I know there are tons of threads out there about MBPs overheating. I've read most of them, but I couldn't find one with my specific problem, so I'm posting.
I have a 13" unibody MBP I got in late 2009, running OSX 10.6.8. It has been reaching high temperatures (70+ degrees celsius) for about half a year. I installed smcFanControl and have been running my fan at high speed (6000+ rpm) consistently. It's noisy but it keeps my laptop cool, so I don't mind.
A couple of days ago my fan started making awful whining noises. I figured something was obstructing the blades, since my laptop does get pretty dusty in the places I use it. I'm planning to open it up and clean it out (with compressed air) once I get the time, because I figure it must be pretty dirty inside.
Now I have another problem, though. smcFanControl has stopped working: even though I set the fans to run at 6000+ rpm as usual, they are only running at at most 2000 rpm. I tried another app (Fan Control) and it doesn't work either. It's like the fan system management has stopped responding to the apps, or to the temperature of the laptop.
This means my laptop is getting frighteningly hot. It's reached 93 degrees celsius about fifteen minutes ago. Right now I'm not doing anything but typing this, I don't have any programs but Chrome and a word editor open in the background, and it's at 78.2 degrees celsius…but the fan is still running at only 811 rpm. I can't get it to go any higher with my fan control apps. I can barely feel the exhaust coming out of the back. Here's a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/5nTBq.png
Is it possible this problem could be caused by a dusty fan, something obstructing the fan, obstructing the cooling passages in the laptop, etc? If so, will cleaning the laptop fix it? I don't know what else to do.
Thanks in advance for any advice.

The Apple Store genius bar will clean it for free. Since you got it in late 2009, it's about that time to get your fan checked out.

Does using a program like fan control damage my mbp?

I heard good things about this program so I downloaded it and it cools off the machine wonderfully. However, I was wondering if it caused damage to the machine as the fans are running at about 3 times what they ran before? Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks.

I would hazard a guess that if it did have anything to do with the failure of the hardware in any way, the manufacturer would void your warranty. Any repair needed would be chargeable.
Mac OS X, Boot Camp and the EFI firmware all have system settings created by the manufacturer. Using a program which alters their recommended settings or changes the behaviour of hardware devices within the machine, goes against the terms of the warranty.
I would ask Apple about Fan Control and get them to confirm that any damage which may be caused (or may not be caused) by a third party program willl not void your warranty.
In some respects, it's like overclocking a PC. Whilst it may be more beneficial to the system and provide better performance, the maufacturer of the computer can not be expected to repair something which has been damaged by the end user 'tweaking' settings to get better performance.
In the case of Fan Control, I have not used it so can not refer to the licence terms, the liability of possible damage done to the machine by using this program will either be at the end users own responsibility or the manufacturer of the software. This should be checked prior to installing and using the program.
I would suggest any program which alters the running of the machine will invalidate your warranty in the event of hardware failure.

Is MBP Fans always on?

well, I have notice while the room is empty and quit that the MBP Fans working so I got curious
I closed every application and Fans still working...
I restarted the OS and no application is running, still Fans working at 1999-2000 rpm
is that normal the Fans always working in no matter what condition the MBP is in?

The fans are on continuously to cool the Intel microprocessor and other components. If they weren't always "on", your machine would burn up by the heat created from the Intel chip. There are thermal detectors in your machine monitoring the components and controlling the speed of the fans. Therefore, on a hot day you'll probably notice the fan noise more; and on a cool day, less so.

Extended fan control v.1.2

Can anyone tell me why this version of fan control does not detect sensors on the GPU despite having an apparent facility to do so? The temp for the GPU always reads zero degrees, which suggests it's not picking it up. As my macbook pro overheats when the capture window is open and working, I presume a lot of the heat is being generated by the GPU, so it would be useful to monitor and fan-control it.
Nick

Not all MBP models are supported. You'd better check with the maker of EFC:
http://www.derman.com/Download/Special/MBpFanControl.html
But he'll probably tell you to get the source code and do the necessary modifications yourself.

Fan Control Software

I am trying to install the new version of SMC Fancontrol on my Intel Santa Rosa MBP. When i try installing it tells me that there can be no other fan control software running. My question is how do I turn off the existing software, and/or what am I doing wrong. I want to be able to turn up the fans whenever I need to do model and image rendering.
Thanks a lot.

It should do that automatically depending on how hot it gets.
If it doesn't do this run a hardware test to see if there are fan or sensor problems.
As for the SMC fancontrol problem, no clue, maybe email the developer.

Fan control and PEACE

Hello, i recently erased by mistake tow folders from the startup items, fan control daemon and PEACE, i got the folders back but when the mac starts up i get this window telling me that there's a problem with those folders, how can i solve this?

If the SMC reset does not help, install istat menus:
http://bjango.com/mac/istatmenus/
Run an Apple hardware Test:
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1509
When your MBP gets hot, post results.
I suspect your MBP has a faulty fan, among other issue(s).
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Fan Control and Leopard

While I am happy with Leopard, it killed my Fan Control - now I face a roasting each time I use my MBP. Anyone know if this little gem will be updated for 10.5? Fan speeds of 1500rpm just don't cut it with a Core Duo.

Same here. Fan control from preferences quit working. I'd set it and when I open it back up again, it would be reset to 0. Also I don't know how I could get a -14360 rpm reading on both of my fans. Didn't know a fan could generate negative rpms...
My fix.. get the SMCfan Control and set you minimum speed for your fans... It also will give you the temperature of your computer. Works for now... I'd rather have the fan control feature back...

How to use fan control?

I just downloaded fan control because it sounds like a good idea to keep this puppy cool. What is a good setting that isn't going to be overkill. I don't want to compromise battery life too much. Anyone good with this program? This is for my MBP 15"

From the "standard warranty" exclusions on Apple's MacBook Pro support page:
"EXCLUSIONS AND LIMITATIONS
This Limited Warranty applies only to hardware products manufactured by or for Apple that can be identified by the "Apple" trademark, trade name, or logo affixed to them. The Limited Warranty does not apply to any non-Apple hardware products or any software, even if packaged or sold with Apple hardware. Manufacturers, suppliers, or publishers, other than Apple, may provide their own warranties to the end user purchaser, but Apple, in so far as permitted by law, provides their products "as is". Software distributed by Apple with or without the Apple brand name (including, but not limited to system software) is not covered under this Limited Warranty. Refer to the licensing agreement accompanying the software for details of your rights with respect to its use.
This warranty does not apply: (a) to damage caused by use with non-Apple products; (b) to damage caused by accident, abuse, misuse, flood, fire, earthquake or other external causes; (c) to damage caused by operating the product outside the permitted or intended uses described by Apple; (d) to damage caused by service (including upgrades and expansions) performed by anyone who is not a representative of Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider; (e) to a product or part that has been modified to significantly alter functionality or capability without the written permission of Apple; (f) to consumable parts, such as batteries, unless damage has occurred due to a defect in materials or workmanship; or (g) if any Apple serial number has been removed or defaced."
I see nothing there about "firmware" specifically. "...non-Apple products" could refer to any third-party software.
Some might argue that (e) applies, but these fan utilities don't "significantly alter functionality or capability". None allows settings below Apple's default 1000 rpm setting. Nor do they defeat the default Auto fan mode, which increases fan rpms as the temperature increases.
Most of the people passing on warranty scares are well meaning, but the facts don't support their contention.
These fan utilities in no way resemble the thermal paste mods that were kicking around these forums a few months back. Remember? And even then, some here maintained that mod (where you actually open the machine) did NOT void the warranty as long as there was no damage done.
Heck, Apple doesn't even warrant their own software!
Here's the link to the full warranty info:
http://www.apple.com/legal/warranty/hardware.html
Best,
Bucky
iMac G4 20-inch flat panel Mac OS X (10.4.8) MBP 15" 2.0gHz. Wife's 15" PB 1.67gHz. Wife's 5G 30GB iPod. 5G 60GB iPod.

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http://sourceforge.net/projects/macfan/
Has worked flawlessly for me on a 15" MBP unibody(i5/330m)

Is it bad to use Fan Control?

So I was looking into running Boinc (donating CPU time to run science projects aka grid computing) on my computer and installed Fan Control so I turn up my fans to keep to comp cooler. I have hence been convinced that it isn't the best idea to run your CPU so high on an MBP since I didn't want to wear out the fan and/or damage any hardware near the CPU. I still have Fan Control installed. Is this okay? I have heard mixed things about manually controlling fan speeds? Should I go to the trouble of uninstalling, or can I just leave it on low settings? What settings should I put it on?
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There really is no need for third-party fan controls. The OS is already configured to increase fan speeds in response to higher operating temperatures. So uninstalling the software is appropriate. However, you need to return the fan configuration to its original setting(s) which is an idle speed of 2000 RPM for each fan (if your model has more than one.) Once you do that you can then uninstall the software using the uninstaller, if it has one. Otherwise, see the following:
Uninstalling Software: The Basics
Most OS X applications are completely self-contained "packages" that can be uninstalled by simply dragging the application to the Trash. Applications may create preference files that are stored in the /Home/Library/Preferences/ folder. Although they do nothing once you delete the associated application, they do take up some disk space. If you want you can look for them in the above location and delete them, too.
Some applications may install an uninstaller program that can be used to remove the application. In some cases the uninstaller may be part of the application's installer, and is invoked by clicking on a Customize button that will appear during the install process.
Some applications may install components in the /Home/Library/Applications Support/ folder. You can also check there to see if the application has created a folder. You can also delete the folder that's in the Applications Support folder. Again, they don't do anything but take up disk space once the application is trashed.
Some applications may install a startupitem or a Log In item. Startupitems are usually installed in the /Library/StartupItems/ folder and less often in the /Home/Library/StartupItems/ folder. Log In Items are set in the Accounts preferences. Open System Preferences, click on the Accounts icon, then click on the LogIn Items tab. Locate the item in the list for the application you want to remove and click on the "-" button to delete it from the list.
Some software use startup daemons or agents that are a new feature of the OS. Look for them in /Library/LaunchAgents/ and /Library/LaunchDaemons/ or in /Home/Library/LaunchAgents/.
If an application installs any other files the best way to track them down is to do a Finder search using the application name or the developer name as the search term. Unfortunately Spotlight will not look in certain folders by default. You can modify Spotlight's behavior or use a third-party search utility, Easy Find, instead. Download Easy Find at VersionTracker or MacUpdate.
Some applications install a receipt in the /Library/Receipts/ folder. Usually with the same name as the program or the developer. The item generally has a ".pkg" extension. Be sure you also delete this item as some programs use it to determine if it's already installed.
There are also several shareware utilities that can uninstall applications:
AppZapper
Automaton
Hazel
CleanApp
Yank
SuperPop
Uninstaller
Spring Cleaning
Look for them at VersionTracker or MacUpdate.
For more information visit The XLab FAQs and read the FAQ on removing software.

PowerBook fan control software?

I know of this software for controlling MacBook and MBP fan speed:
http://81.169.182.62/~eidac/software/page5/page5.html
but it is Intel specific. is there something similar for PowerBooks, specifically the second to last 17" model?

As far as I can tell, no, there isn't. I've searched and haven't found any.
Actually, if you keep your PB on a cooling platform.....I use this: http://roadtools.com/) whenever using it, your PB should virtually never overheat. I've been using Temperature Monitor: http://bresink.com/osx/TemperatureMonitor.html and, currently, Hardware Monitor: http://bresink.com/osx/HardwareMonitor.html for the past couple of years and have NEVER seen my PB go beyond 142 degrees F.
The left fan cuts in when the PB's temp reaches about 140 F and deactivates when the temp drops to around 130 F.
The right fan will activate only if the PB's temp reaches critically high levels, perhaps 160F, but it's never activated since my PB has never even come close to critical temp.
17" Powerbook - 1.5GHz - 1.5GB RAM - Mac OS X (10.3.9)
17" Powerbook - 1.5GHz - 1.5GB RAM - Mac OS X (10.3.9)

How do I uninstall Fan Control?

I installed fan control on my MBP w/ Retina and changed my mind on it. I read the other posts but when in the library folder I couldn't find such files. I deleted the support files that I found in my "all documents" folder. I still have the fan control panel in my settings app. Can anyone tell me how to uninstall it completely and if needed reset It to Apples settings. Thanks for your time!

Use Finder - Go menu - Go to Folder & type in /Library/PreferencePanes incuding the initial /
It's normal for the one in your Home folder to be empty.
>>just ctrl/right click on the item in System Preferences & choose Remove.
That should also remove it, without needing to use Finder.

Lobotomo Fan Control

Ok got my MBP 2 days ago.. installed Lobotomo's Fan Control. Read on the internet that once you install it, it messes with Apple's preset fan-adjusting option in the firmware?
On the download page for this software, it even says "For safety, it leaves the original automatic fan speed control intact."...
I followed the instructions on their page for uninstall.. how do I make sure that Apple's original thing is still intact? Should I just goahead and use smc Fan Control?
I'm freaking out a little here... new 2500$ laptop lol

I don't know about outsmarting the engineers, but I know these little facts:
1. my new iMac 24" 2.8 Ghz with default settings is running in excess of 70 degrees centigrade for power supply (like 78 at high load) - and default fan control does not do anything about it - fan speed stays at lowest setting.
2. When I raise the lowest default fan speed a little (from 1200 to 1500 or 2000 for CPU fan, which also cools the power supply) - I manage to keep my power supply within 60 degrees at all times.
3. I don't have factual knowledge of how long my power supply is going to last if operated at 70C and above, but my guess is that keeping it below 60 WILL PROLONG ITS LIFE!
also remember that smart engineers only care about 1 year warranty period, while I care a bit further into the future!

Fan Control, firmware restore

I recently installed Lobotomo Software's Fan Control 1.2, but have since read (and seen) that it apparently modifies firmware to disable SpeedStep - with the result that the MBP no longer modifies fan speed once I uninstall Fan Control, while CPU speed remains constant at 2.2 GHz even when the AC adapter is plugged out & 'energy saving' selected.
First I tried the uninstall procedure on www.lobotomo.com (delete files, reset SMC). No success. Then I tried the Fw Restore CD (1.6 and 1.7), but neither seems to work. I've followed the instructions on Apple's FW Restore page, but the MBP doesn't behave the way they say it would - the sleep LED blinks rapidly, followed by the long beep, but even with the Fw Restore CD inserted it just boots as normal.
The Fw version is MBP31.0070.B07. Was I just using the wrong Fw CD? Is there anything newer than 1.7 anyway? Is there another way to reset the Fw, or remove Fan Control's modifications?
Any help would be much appreciated.

Right. Gathered as much from researching the problem, but thanks, will keep this in mind for the future.
Anyway, to update the fan speed issue - apparently it did not mess with SpeedStep, at any rate not the part of it that controls CPU speed (checked via MiniStat). But fans still won't kick in without Fan Control (which I'd really hate to have to install again, seeing how miserably it seems to work).
I've been monitoring fan speed for the past hour or so, and installed SMC Fan Control as a stop-gap, but apparently when left at default (2000 rpm) fans won't kick in until CPU temp is in the high 70's C. I started a couple of CPU-intensive (Parallels, Photoshop) apps just to check, and got a growl note (presumably from SMC Fan Control) telling me the Mac was too hot and that I needed to close some apps), at which point I chickened out and used SMC to bring the fans to 4000 rpm...
Is such behaviour normal? I mean, does the system generally wait for the temperature to get that high before spinning the fans up? Have I screwed up my MPB beyond repair?

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