MDT 2013 won't capture 8.1 image, does not boot to PE to capture

Question

I am doing this with Server 2012 R2 and MDT 2013, and the reference machines are VMs
I initially created a deployment share for creating windows 7 and windows 8.1 reference images and capturing and deployment worked ok. After getting into some more details i customized the deployment share customsettings  to make things easier and created
a separate capture share for capturing new reference images. I updated permissions on the share so my service account has access to it. 
In this share i imported the windows 8.1 os files and copied the sysprep and capture task sequence i used to capture my first reference image [from the original deployment share], but when running the task sequence it reboots and just goes back into windows,
instead of windows PE to capture the image. 
I copied a windows 7 capture sequence to the capture share, imported the windows 7 files and updated the task, and it rebooted into PE without a problem and copied an image. so I don't believe I have any permissions/customsettings problems with the new share.
Im not seeing any errors jump out at me in the bdd.log but I'm new-ish to going over the logs and using MDT to start with so I may be missing the obvious. I am using SMS trace and dont see any red/yellow highlites either. 
In windows 7 i did have the vm in audit mode when i mapped the share as an admin and started the task sequence. In windows 8.1 i am not in audit mode [after doing some research and learning more about using MDT it did not seem necessary]
After comparing a run of the windows 7 task to windows 8 i see the boot.wim copied to the win 7 vm, but i dont see it on the win 8 vm. There is a partition created, i cant see data in it when i show hidden files. 
rules for the capture share
[Settings]
Priority=Default
Properties=MyCustomProperty
[Default]
OSInstall=Y
SkipAppsOnUpgrade=YES
SkipCapture=NO
SkipAdminPassword=YES
SkipProductKey=YES
Heres the last part of bdd.log. New here so I can't post a link yet, didnt know if i should post the whole thing here or not to start with. 
<![LOG[LTI initiating task sequence-requested reboot.]LOG]!><time="08:29:38.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Property PHASE is now = CUSTOM]LOG]!><time="08:29:38.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Microsoft Deployment Toolkit version: 6.2.5019.0]LOG]!><time="08:29:43.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LTICopyScripts" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LTICopyScripts">
<![LOG[--------- Script Start ---------]LOG]!><time="08:29:43.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LTICopyScripts" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LTICopyScripts">
<![LOG[LTICopyScripts processing completed successfully.]LOG]!><time="08:29:43.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LTICopyScripts" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LTICopyScripts">
<![LOG[Creating startup folder item to run LiteTouch.wsf once the shell is loaded.]LOG]!><time="08:29:43.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Shortcut "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\LiteTouch.lnk" created.]LOG]!><time="08:29:43.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Property BootPE is now = ]LOG]!><time="08:29:43.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Microsoft Deployment Toolkit version: 6.2.5019.0]LOG]!><time="08:32:24.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[ZTIUtility!GetAllFixedDrives (False)]LOG]!><time="08:32:25.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[New ZTIDiskPartition : \\WIN81-REF\root\cimv2:Win32_DiskPartition.DeviceID="Disk #0, Partition #0" \\WIN81-REF\root\cimv2:Win32_LogicalDisk.DeviceID="E:"]LOG]!><time="08:32:25.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[New ZTIDisk : \\WIN81-REF\root\cimv2:Win32_DiskDrive.DeviceID="\\\\.\\PHYSICALDRIVE0"]LOG]!><time="08:32:25.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[New ZTIDiskPartition : \\WIN81-REF\root\cimv2:Win32_DiskPartition.DeviceID="Disk #0, Partition #1" \\WIN81-REF\root\cimv2:Win32_LogicalDisk.DeviceID="C:"]LOG]!><time="08:32:25.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[New ZTIDisk : \\WIN81-REF\root\cimv2:Win32_DiskDrive.DeviceID="\\\\.\\PHYSICALDRIVE0"]LOG]!><time="08:32:25.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[ZTIUtility!GetAllFixedDrives = E: C:]LOG]!><time="08:32:25.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[No task sequence is in progress.]LOG]!><time="08:32:25.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Not running within WinPE.]LOG]!><time="08:32:25.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[DeploymentMethod = UNC]LOG]!><time="08:32:26.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Validating connection to \\2012R2_TEST\CaptureShare$]LOG]!><time="08:32:26.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Mapping server share: \\2012R2_TEST\CaptureShare$]LOG]!><time="08:32:26.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Mapped Network UNC Path Z: = \\2012R2_TEST\CaptureShare$]LOG]!><time="08:32:26.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Found Existing UNC Path Z: = \\2012R2_TEST\CaptureShare$]LOG]!><time="08:32:26.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Successfully established connection using supplied credentials.]LOG]!><time="08:32:26.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[DeployRoot = \\2012R2_TEST\CaptureShare$]LOG]!><time="08:32:26.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Property DeployDrive is now = Z:]LOG]!><time="08:32:26.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[DeployDrive = Z:]LOG]!><time="08:32:26.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Phase = CUSTOM]LOG]!><time="08:32:26.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Validating connection to \\2012R2_TEST\CaptureShare$]LOG]!><time="08:32:26.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Mapping server share: \\2012R2_TEST\CaptureShare$]LOG]!><time="08:32:26.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Found Existing UNC Path Z: = \\2012R2_TEST\CaptureShare$]LOG]!><time="08:32:26.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Found Existing UNC Path Z: = \\2012R2_TEST\CaptureShare$]LOG]!><time="08:32:26.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Successfully established connection using supplied credentials.]LOG]!><time="08:32:26.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Property DeployDrive is now = Z:]LOG]!><time="08:32:26.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[DeployDrive = Z:]LOG]!><time="08:32:26.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Validating connection to \\2012R2_TEST\CaptureShare$]LOG]!><time="08:32:26.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Mapping server share: \\2012R2_TEST\CaptureShare$]LOG]!><time="08:32:26.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Found Existing UNC Path Z: = \\2012R2_TEST\CaptureShare$]LOG]!><time="08:32:27.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Found Existing UNC Path Z: = \\2012R2_TEST\CaptureShare$]LOG]!><time="08:32:27.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Successfully established connection using supplied credentials.]LOG]!><time="08:32:27.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[DeploymentType = CUSTOM]LOG]!><time="08:32:27.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[ResourceRoot = \\2012R2_TEST\CaptureShare$]LOG]!><time="08:32:27.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[Property ResourceDrive is now = Z:]LOG]!><time="08:32:27.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[ResourceDrive = Z:]LOG]!><time="08:32:27.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">
<![LOG[SMS Task Sequencer already found on C:\MININT\Tools\X64]LOG]!><time="08:32:27.000+000" date="03-19-2014" component="LiteTouch" context="" type="1" thread="" file="LiteTouch">

Answer 1

Thanks for your reply. 
The pc is not in the domain when i run litetouch. It was joined after install, then i run some local gpos/scripts against it, install all of the shared printers from servers, then i put it back in a workgroup, login as the local administrator, delete the
domain profiles and guids in the registry, briefly connected back to a domain server [not with a mapped drive] to copy a couple of files, rebooted into the local admin account an ran litetouch. 
After running litetouch.wsf the first time in the windows 8.1 pro vm [no changes, but manual connection] it rebooted without sysprepping or taking an image
I deleted the task sequence and created another one with "sysprep and capture" as the sequence.  i made no changes to the task sequence. did all of the above, ran litetouch, and it just reboots. sysprep does not run and windows pe does not load. 
if i run sysprep and boot into audit mode [as a test, since my windows 7 vm snapshot was in audit mode when it runs litetouch.wsf], then run litetouch, sysprep works, then it DID capture an image, but after that image was capture and the VM rebooted, i got
this error when loading windows 8
"windows could not complete the installation. To install windows on this computer, restart the installation" and if i hit ok it will reboot and error out again. 
Haven't had any issues with that VM until now. 
I reverted to my snapshot and just ran sysprep oobe w/ generalize to see how it would react
it failed, setuperr.log shows SYSPRP failed to remove apps for the current user. some searching gives me information on that and makes me think its related to adding/deleting user profiles? i dont actually use or update the apps at all, i have a deploy task
that removed most of them and customizes the start screen and those seem to work without issue. 
found this as my reference: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2769827/en-nz
Sysprep has an additional provider that is added in Windows 8 to clean appx packages and generalize the image. The provider will only work if the Appx package is a per-user package or an all-user provisioned package.
and
Resolution
The correct way of removing the package is to remove the package for the user running sysprep and also remove the provisioning. This can be done using the following Powershell cmdlets:
Import-Module Appx
Import-Module Dism
Get-AppxPackage -AllUser | Where PublisherId -eq 8wekyb3d8bbwe | Format-List -Property PackageFullName,PackageUserInformation
if i run that i get a lot of 
[unknown user]: installed
Do I just need to revise my process and start from scratch? or at least just never actually join the domain and user other profiles? thats a convenience thing so its not a big deal, really.
I have an image made in a similar way that works, but doesnt have quite all the updates/changes i wanted. It captured [at the time] fine and installs without issue
Heres an overview of what I do [i am open to some revisions on this]
-deploy windows 8 base install from MDT
-join domain, login with service account [just makes getting to some things easier]
-install office 2010 pro plus w/ sp2 [i do understand that these can be set as an MDT app but the install takes a while and i dont like waiting on it if i dont have to]
-install windows updates [no WSUs server currently, on my future to-do list, not my decision right now and i do understand the benefits of having one]
-connect to servers and install all network printers [we have so many that i dont want to wait on the drivers when we do a big roll out soon]
-install oracle software [i can get it to automate in windows 7, not 8, so i dont want to manually deal with it post-install]
-install adobe reader/java [i do understand that these can be set as an MDT app]
-leave domain, reboot, login as local admin
-clean domain profiles/registry guids
-make some local gpoedits [we dont have 8.1 enterprise and just want the start screen locked down]
-install our AV network agent
-lite touch. 
any advice is appreciated