Measuring points & counters......................,

hi everyone,
could you tell me indetail about measuring points and counters....
what is difference b/w measuring point and counter ....?
and what is the use with the measuring position and target value...
and what is the effect if we select the measpoint is counter text box at initial screen..(t.code: ik01)
plz share any information which u have..... if u dont mind
thanks in advance.....
regards,
gunnu

Hi,
Measuring Point & Counters are used to capture the Important Parameters which should be captured on periodical basis.
Measuring Position => This is Number or Description which is used to describe the Measuring Point.
Target Value => Ideal or recommended Value for that measuring point
Measuring Point is Counter => If you want to define ODO meter reading, that kind will be counter.
Please go through some of the links.
reg: measuring point creation and measuring point counter creation
Re: Counters ans measuring points
Re: Meas point & counter
Regards,
Maheswaran.
Edited by: Maheswaran.K on May 5, 2011 10:41 AM

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