Mid-Month Calculations

I am bringing a fixed asset system online in SAP and during the legacy conversion it was realized that the test system is not calculating the depreciation using a mid month convention. That being said looking at the configuration the company code was setup in 2005 and is in production and is productive (since 2005). So it appears that this setting is global and SAP will not allow me to change these settings to allow mid month calculations. Is this correct? anyone ran across the same issue.

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Hi All,
We are in middle of AA implementation .How can we configure mid month in year dependent fiscal year .System doesn't allow to put mid month date for year dependent fiscal year.
If we copy co.code from best practice co.code BP01 system updates date this table in back round.
But we are not copying from BP01.
Any one has configure this for year dependent please input.
Thanks,

Hi,
this function is not possible, you have to use a fiscal year variant with 24 real periods instead.
Check the IMG documentation concerning "Use of Half Months in the Company Code":
- When you specify the use of half periods in the definition of an asset company code, half periods are automatically specified in all other company codes that use this fiscal year version.
- You cannot use half periods with non-calendar fiscal months.
- You cannot take back the use of half periods once the specification has been made. It is noted internally by the system in the asset master records.
Regards,
Markus

Asset Accounting - Mid month Convention

Hi,
I have a problem in Asset Accouting for configuring a mid-month convention (and mid-quarter), settings. I activated the use of half-month in my company code (value 15), and defined Calender assignment for my Fiscal year variant, for Period control 03. The depreciation start date is correctly calculated for the tax depreciation area (period control 03). But, for my book and group depreciation area (period control 01 - 1st of acquisition month), the system also calculating 15/mm.
For Book Depreciation area I need to calculate depreciation for the entire period in which Asset is acquired (period Control 01) Currently If I acuire the asset before 15th of month its calculating depreciation for entire month and If I acquire the asset after 15th of month its calculating only for half month.
Is there a way to have mid-month calculation only applying to specific depreciation area ? Did i miss something in the customizing or do I have to change the period control 01 to force the start date at the first of the current month ?
If you require any futher info to provide input on this issue, Please let me know.
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As long as the depreciation keys are different between the depreciation areas you should be able to have one calculating at mid-month and the other at full month, respectively.
Just a thought: Go into transaction "OAVH" and make sure that the periods are assigned correctly for your Period Control "1". It should have one line item with a "0" in the month and day field and the period field should be 'blank'.
If the Period Control is correct, you should try creating a custom Period Control that defines each period as the last day of the month.
Hope this helps,
Chad

New FSV for Mid month Dep Key

Hi guys,
I am trying to define new fiscal year version with 24 periods which is required for mid month convention cuz we are using a FSV which starts Dec-Nov and is year dependent.I need little help on how to divided these periods into 24, cuz each time i am getting some errors ,like there are gaps in FSV.The details of our accounting periods are as uder.
FOR 2009 FSV (DEC-NOV)
MONTH          DAY              PERIOD         SHIFT
1     31     2     0
2     28     3     0
3     28     4     0
5     2     5     0
5     30     6     0
6     27     7     0
8     1     8     0
8     29     9     0
9     26     10     0
10     31     11     0
11     30     12     0
12     26     1     1 (1 SHOWS 1,2 PERIOD IN 2010)
12     31     2     +1
FOR 2010
MONTH          DAY              PERIOD         SHIFT
1     30     2     0
2     27     3     0
3     27     4     0
4     29     5     0
5     29     6     0
6     26     7     0
7     31     8     0
8     28     9     0
9     25     10     0
10     30     11     0
11     30     12     0
12     25     1     1(1 SHOWS YEAR 2011)
12     31     2     +1
So how do I divide these into 24 periods for mid month calculation.if ANyone could help especially PAULkr or Nathen, I be grateful.
Thanks
Shaun

If your fiscal year starting in Dec, I think you can do the following settings for your 24 period fiscal year
Month Day   Period
1           15       3
1            31      4
2            15       5
2            28        6
Continue like this until
11         15         23
11         30         24
12         15         1          +1
12         31         2          +1
Paul

ST.Line Mid month dep Key

Guys,
I need to configure a st.line mid month depreciation key for our 39 year building asset for area AMT & ACE, The standard key ACM is not producing the correct calculation.If I assign this key the following calculation is coming up ,
APC=26.171.89 Life:39 years, Acq date:12/10/2009( as per our FSV its our 2010-period 1)
dep is caculated as $335.54, which is half of the year's dep which should be $671.08, where as we want to have $671.08
for first year. What do I need to chnage in that key??.
Regards
Shaun

Paul,
we are using fiscal year variant from DEC-NOV and as of 11.30.2010 is our period 12,the last period of the year.and our fiscal periods doesnt correspondence to calender year.so now standrad key ACM with period control 06(03/03/03/03) calculating just st line in first year , which is $ 671.08, not $ 6433.11 which is mid month calculation .but its not happening ,any other idea in period control that could give me that mid month convention to work.but thanks for your helpo ,u been a great help to me ,I assigned full points to you.
Regards
Shaun

Mid month period not being calculated in pay slip

Hi Experts,
Mid month period given in 0008 is not being calculated.
e.g. if i hire some one on 16.01.09, then 0008 data should be calculated for those days only (e.g. 16 days) in pay slip. But in my case it is taking full amount of 0008.
Can any one kindly help, pl.
thanks
Balu

Dear Sikindar,
thanks for the replay.
PCL 1 and PCL10 are having 3 and 1 respectively.
checked the control record and the pay roll area of that employee and generation of pay roll periods are available in V_T549Q.
please guide me further
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PF- Mid month employees

Hi all,
I am facing some issue in the provident fund for the Mid month joined employees. As per the client requirement, SAP is not calculating. I need your help in this.
For all the employees we are maintaining the IT 0587 has whichever is less.
I go through some of the threads, still now I am not able to put condition in the PCR.
Ex: Employee hired in the month of april 15.04.2014 his Basic salary is 10,000 rps. When I run the payroll basic salary is prorated with the amount 5333.33 for 16 days in the april month. But, PF should calculate based on the amount 5333.33 but in the output it is showing as 416.
Actually, PF should deduct 640 rps but it is showing 416 rps. 224 rps different amount is coming. How to resolve this one.
Regards,
Vijay Kumar

Hi,
When employee joins in the middle of the month The provident fund will prorate on Rs 6500 according to PF Act and standard rule that was defined in SAP as per act. You cannot change the rule that has defined in standard. The user exist cannot be the right solution for this. The user exist which are there it will not override the standard functionality. The best way is to go according to Act that was defined in SAP.
Incase if you want Rs 780 to be deducted for the first month for mid month joinee employees This can be done by manually inputting the data in additional payment wage type There are several ways to adjust the amount. You can either create a PF Adjustment wage type in additional payment for mid joinee employees to adjust the amount.

Income tax issue for mid month joinees

Issue 2:
For New (mid month) joinee at the first month gross salary is calculated based on the earned salary amount *12 months (or no. of remaining months for financial yr end), but in my client income tax deducted based on the actual salary (not earned salary) from the first month onwards.
For example :
Employee X,
Joined date 15.08.2011,
Actual salary = 1,00,000 INR. Earned salary for 15 days = 50,000 INR.
While Start Payroll for the period 5th (August) 2011. The WT /416 Gross salary = 4,00,000 (50000*8). Based on this gross salary income tax calculated, But I want to calculated the gross at first month (august 2011) based on follows,
Gross salary : August month earned salary = 50,000 + Actual salary per month =1,00,000*7 =7,00,000.
Gross salary = 7,50,000 INR.
Please give me some solution
Thanks and regards
Mohan .V

Hi Param Dayal,
New issues rise Now....
For New (mid month) joinee at the first month Exemption U/S 10 is calculated based on the Conveyance Allowance amount *12 months (or no. of remaining months for financial yr end), but in my client income tax Exemption U/S 10 based on the actual salary (not earned salary) from the first month onwards.
For example :
Employee X,
Joined date 15.08.2011,
Conveyance Allowance = 800 INR. Earned Conveyance Allowance for 15 days = 400 INR.
While Start Payroll for the period 5th (August) 2011. The WT /130 Exemption U/S 10 = 3,200 (400*8). Based on this Conveyance Allowance The Exemption U/S 10 calculated, But I want to calculated the Exemption U/S 10 at first month (august 2011) based on follows,
August month earned Conveyance Allowance = 400 INR + Actual Conveyance Allowance per month =800*7 =5,600.
Exemption U/S 10 = 6,000 INR.
Please give me some solution
Thanks and regards
Mohan .V
Edited by: mohantamilan on Sep 26, 2011 2:52 PM

Mid month joiners PF Projection Issue

Hi Team,
We have an issue with respect to PF Projection for the employees who joined in mid month. We are on actual basis as an income tax projection.
Employee joined on 16.04.2014 and his basic is 20,000 rupees. Since he joined in mid month his PF will be deducted as 1200. Now the system is projecting under Aggregate chapter VI as 1200+2400*11 = 27600 which is incorrect. It should do as 1200+1200*11 = 14400
We are not sure why system Is behaving weird. If anybody come across this situation, please let us know.
Thanks and Regards,
Siva.

Hello,
Please note that proration in case of mid month termination and joining
will be applicable to PF eligible pay alongwith EPF basis.
This is the standard behaviour of the system.
Please go through the below explanation on the proration of PF
PF will be prorated if there is a mid month joinee or mid month
termination. In Case of LOP the Eligible Pay is not prorated.
If the pension basis is eligible pay which is maintained in T511P in the
constant PFBAS and currently having the value as 6500 then, in the case
of mid month joining 6500 gets prorated for the number of days employee
was in the trust.
In the case of mid month joining/leaving or transfer scenarios, the PF
Basis will be correspondingly prorated and so the contribution
calculated will also be prorated.
If the customer doesn't want this pension basis to be prorated then a
User Exit: Override Employer Pension Basis has been provided in payroll
function INEPF. The name of the exit is EXIT_HINCALC0_002. This exit is
in the enhancement HRINCEPF. We request you to go through the
documentation of this user exit at
Payroll India > Statutory Social Contribution > Provident Fund >
User Exit: Override Employer Pension Basis
With Regards,
Chetan

Pension and mid-month hiring

Dear Experts,
A person was hired in mid-month, the 15th.
Payable earnings is 4480
The schema is referencing the correct wage type /103
in payroll the amount for the pension of 2480.85 x 6.9% = 171.18. But it should be 309.12
a pcr was created for special cumulations into/103 that reads as follows;
- 3
    - /103 PF APPL. EARNINGS
          WPALL FRST
          ADDWT *
There's no other wage type that has that amount. anks
How do we get teh calculation for the 309.12 to result?
Many thanks,
M

I must forewarn you that I am not familiar with IT0150.
In your initial post, you had mentioned a pcr as
- 3      - /103 PF APPL. EARNINGS
          WPALL FRST
          ADDWT *
This implies that if WT /103 exists in more than one "split", then only it's values (RTE/NUM/AMT) for the first split will be kept in the Input Table, that is if that are all options for the pcr.
Regarding pcr ZVA1, you should first look into the Input Table that is read by the pcr to check the values of /103 and of /809 (Constant GENAU should have a value of 100,000.00). As mentioned by Frances, this is a Custom pcr that will prorate the amount paid. It was created to respond to a requirement, but if I understand you correctly, you would like the payment not to be prorated when the employee is hired in the current month.
Do you have a WT or a temporary variable that indicates that the employee has been hired in the current month?

PF calulation wrong in mid month joiners

Dear Experts
As per the client requirement PF Contribution on "Eligible pay or PF basis which ever is less" i.e Basic 6500 and Contribution 780/- only.
But in case of any one joined in Mid month with basic salary 9000 in this case PF calculation showing wrong (calculating on working days)
I want to deduct 780/- as PF Contribution for mid month joiners also.

Hi Mallikarjuna,
With "Eligibility pay or PF Basis whichever is less" option selected, PF contribution is the minimum of below 2 components
1. Actual basic salary of the employee
2. Eligible pay of the employee (eligible pay is INR 6500 and is maintained in constant PFBAS)
SAP by default pro-rates both these components for mid month joinees. Lets take an employee with DOJ 11.04.2014 and basic pay 12,000.
1. Pro-rated basic salary = 8,000 (12,000/30*20)
2. Pro-rated eligible pay = 4,333.33 (6,500/30*20)
PF calculated by SAP in this case is 12% of 4,333.33 = 520
Solution:
I understand that you do not want the eligible pay to be prorated. i.e. the PF contribution in above case should be 12% of 6,500 = 780
To achieve this, you will need to implement the user exit EXIT_HINCALC0_002 (Override Employer Pension Basis) in the Enhancement HRINCEPF. Replace the pro-rated eligible pay with the actual value of constant PFBAS in this. Refer the documentation in the below node of SPRO
Payroll>>Payroll:India>>Statutory Social Contribution>>Provident Fund>>User Exit: Override Employer Pension Basis
Regards
Ravi Patni

Plan Changes Mid-Month

I changed my plan from 1400 min to 2000 min mid-month. If I would not have changed my plan, I would have been charged 32 minutes overage. Because I increased my plan by 600 minutes, I was charged 162 minutes overage. This absolutely makes no sense! Customer service simply says it was explained on the web site as being pro-rated. I did not understand that and the explanation on the web site may only make sense to a trained service representative with a calculator! II feel this is the biggest bait and switch ever.

When you change your plan in a billing period, if you do not backdate the change, what happens is the bill is prorated for each plan.
For example. Lets say you changed on the 15th day of a 30 day billing period. You would be allotted only 700 minutes the first 15 days before overages occur. Then 1000 minutes the last 15 days before overages occur.
Actually online, it is spelled out very clearly. It states if you choose today, the change may result in overages due to proration. And explains why backdating is best,

Mid Month Close - Financial Close

Hello
I would like to ask the experts on the activities we need to perform for a mid-month close during a fiscal year (A month which is not a normal fiscal month end) . For example, if a company is being sold in the middle of the month and they need to generate the financial statements as of that date (sales, expenses, margins etc) what all do we need to do. What are the limitations ?
Please share your experiences. List of activities and steps that need to be done would be really appreciated.
Thank you for your time.

Hello Rahul,
I thought of sharing some inputs on this scenario, from an old friend.
Some aspects/limitations which could be highlighted:
1. Splitting the period into two periods.
2. Depreciation Posting would be calculated for the entire month. 15 days depreciation will have to be adjusted manually.
3. How the Business manages the balance carry forward for the respective month, is another challenge.
4. Google for sap msg fgv618
Hope this is helpful.
Regards,
Avinash

Mid month convention - Period Control method

Hi
My client wants to calculate depreciation for mid month. i.e, Asset acquired after 15th of a month should be considered for next month depreciation calculation.
A new dep key and period control have been asked to create.
In this case, what are the steps that needs to be done?
Pl help me out.
Thanx..
Prasad

Copy a key and start it with Z.For period control use the second one, which is called "pro rata upto mid-period per period start date. What this method does is if the asset is put in service upto the middle of the period(month-generally) the depreciation starts beginning of the period, if it is after the middle of the period the start date is the beginning of the next period(month).
Please assign points for this correct answer.

How to prorate mid month emp termination

hey all,
i have some employees that are being terminated as of 15th Jan 2009 some as of 20th Jan 2009. How can one handle such situations in the basic salary calculation formulas in payroll.
all your comments are welcomed!

There was no proration logic.
So i went thru the R12 Help and i came across a sample formula that has given me some idea now this formula is working only when the employees join in the mid-month and it doesn't work for mid-month termination.
Please note the salary is not hourly its daily computation but payroll is callander month.
We have International HRMS (i.e. XX_LEGISLATION)
Following is the formula:
ALias ASG_GRADE as Emp_Grade
ALIAS BASIC_PAY_IN_USD_AMOUNT_IN_USD_ENTRY_VALUE AS BASIC_US
ALIAS EXCHANGE_RATE_USD_PAY_VALUE_ENTRY_VALUE AS EXCHANGE_RATE1
default for BASIC_US IS 0
default for Emp_Grade is 'A'
default for actual_salary is 0.0
default for EXCHANGE_RATE1 is 0
default for prorate_end is '01-JAN-1900' (date)
default for prorate_start is '01-JAN-1900' (date)
default for PAY_PROC_PERIOD_END_DATE IS '01-JAN-1950' (date)
default for PAY_PROC_PERIOD_START_DATE IS '01-JAN-1950' (date)
inputs are Pay_amt(number),Pay_amt_TZS(number),Pay_amt_USD(number),prorate_start (date), prorate_end (date), actual_salary (number),day_in_Month(number)
if (Emp_Grade='S1' OR Emp_Grade='S2' OR Emp_Grade='S3' OR Emp_Grade='S4' OR Emp_Grade='SA' OR Emp_Grade='SB' OR
Emp_Grade='SC' OR Emp_Grade='SD' OR Emp_Grade='SE' OR Emp_Grade='SS') then
if not(BASIC_US was defaulted) then
actual_salary =(BASIC_US)
l_amount = (BASIC_US)
message = 'Proration Start Date ' || TO_CHAR(prorate_start, 'DD-MON-YYYY')
IF (prorate_start was defaulted) then
prorate_start date is defaulted when no pro ration occurs. Therefore we
should just return Salary.
l_amount = l_amount
     Pay_amt=(l_amount)
     Pay_amt_USD=(l_amount)
     Pay_amt_TZS=(l_amount*EXCHANGE_RATE1)
else
l_days = days_between(prorate_end , prorate_start)+1
day_in_Month=days_between(PAY_PROC_PERIOD_END_DATE,PAY_PROC_PERIOD_START_DATE)+1
l_amount = (l_amount * l_days) / day_in_Month
     Pay_amt=(l_amount)
     Pay_amt_USD=(l_amount)
     Pay_amt_TZS=(l_amount*EXCHANGE_RATE1)
return l_amount, message,Pay_amt,Pay_amt_TZS,Pay_amt_USD
Appreciate all your responses/help/assistance!

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