Midi physical input - Port Order FYI

An obscure tid-bit for those of you who have made custom environments or controller assignments, and then added a new midi device only to find that the port order is changed on the physical input object within Logic's environment, and you have to reassign everything.
After much playing about, I discovered that you can open the MIDI configuration file using TextEdit and use cut and paste to force the drivers into a particular order.
For some reason it doesn't seem to make a difference what order they appear to be in using AudioMIDI setup. Editing the .mcfg file is the only way to get it in the order you want.
Cheers,
Sam Burton

Some time ago there was discussion about this issue in Sonikmatter, here's the thread:
http://community.sonikmatter.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=28185
G5 Mac OS X (10.4.4)

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Anyone seen this before?
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I've also got a Novation Remote25SL which works as a control surface/controller with 3 out ports. It requires some special Environment cabling to work properly with Logic.
Everything was working fine until lately all my projects stopped responding to MIDI from my master keyboard...
I eventually discovered it was because Logic had some how changed the order of MIDI ports. It used to be "Midi Express 1.... 4" followed by "Remote25SL 1...3".
Now if I look at the "outputs & Ports" page in the Environment, it's reversed. "Remote25SL 1...3" followed by "Midi Express 1....4".
So what? Well, the dumb cables in the environment don't move when the ports do. So the cables that used to be connected to the Remote25SL are now connected to the Motu Midi Express, which wreaks havoc on my project.
Any ideas a) what causes this, and b) how to re-order the ports so it goes back the way it was before?
I've tried messing around in the AudioMidi setup tool but don't see any thing here that will help.
It points up, I think, a flaw in Logic's "logic". Environment cables should be tied to physical/logical ports, not just handed out on a 'first come, first serve' to whoever shows up on the midi bus first. The system apparently can "see" the difference between the Motu and the Novation. So why can't Logic?
Grrr. Time to start reading the Nuendo brochures again.

I HAVE A SOLUTION
and it works fine for me after a series of trial and error experiments.
Quit Logic (for now) and do the following.
1) Download the app MidiPipe from this site:
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/audio/midipipe.html
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I wish I could post screen shots here... I can show you that I have 6 'pipes' happening.
Why: I have these controllers (according to Logic) happening:
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-click the 'hijack' button.
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5) Create a new pipe, redo step 4 until you've created a new pipe for every controller you have.
Save this Midipipe file, and open it prior to any Logic session, before you open Logic.
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and you'll have to define any custom controller data (this may not be necessary for you). But I had to change the controller listening port for all nanoKONTROL assignments. You may not have to do anything here at all.
7) In the case of the folks trying to use two (or more) controllers, as in three keyboards at a time you still have to change one setting: and unfortunately this is not global for Logic, you'll have to change it every single project:
-Under File>Project Settings>Recording, you need to check the box that says
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-After you've assigned those MIDI Channe;s per track; now arm each track you wish to record onto (or play, trigger, etc) ---arm meaning 'click the R so it's red'
You should be good to go!
To boil it down to simply: download MidiPipe, figure it out, define controller data if necessary, check Demix by Channel in Project Settings, Set each track's Midi Channel, Arm each track, record two (or more) parts at once.
You'll spend 30 minutes or more figuring out MidiPipe for your setup (less if you're brilliant); anywheres up to an hour or more in Controller Assignments but you may not need to do anything here); and less than a minute for the rest. Do the heavy work once (and tweak it) -- after that, the checkboxes/Midi Channel assignments/track arming is like, 10 clicks every project.
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Works great for me with this setup:
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~Robb

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Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone else is annoyed with the way midi ports are addressed in Logic, in relation to Midi control of various commands in Logic.
A simple case in point for me is when I have my Virus TI turned on, I have one set up of logic_cs preferences and another for when my Virus TI is turned off. The only around this is to double up on the settings within the controller assignments window.
So you buy a new piece of external midi kit and all of a sudden all your previously setup controllers stop working..... So you have to re-enter them all again one by one.
Sometimes adding or removing a device, doesn't affect it at all... Just depends on the order of the ports on the physical input (in the environment).
If you could rename the ports in the Audio Midi Setup and change the order in which they appear, you might have some control over the random nature of the problem.
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Amin,
I've thought along these lines too, surmising that: items (or data) which were selected/highlighted in various windows at various times were somehow still subject to such actions as Delete, Cut, or Clear, despite the fact that those windows were currently closed. Now, I rarely (closer to "never") have need to visit the Clicks/Ports layer of the Environment, let alone tinker with the connection between phys input and seq input such that that cable might ever remain in a "selected" or "highlighted" state to begin with.
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