Migrating Papi heavy app to BPM 11g

Hi,
I have a BPM 10G app that uses external tasks a lot and the external UI makes heavy use of Papi. I don't mind rebuilding the process from scratch in 11G, but I'd like to keep my UI as is, or worst case scenario replace the Papi layer in it (thankfully nicely abstracted!). Is there anything like Papi in 11g, I have noticed that Human Workflow has an API, but I'm still trying to understand why this appears to go through BPEL to get to BPM, can I use this?
You may have guessed that I'm from a BEA/BPM background, not an Oracle/BPEL one! If anyone can provide a good and clear explanation as to how these components fit together, I'd be grateful - can't find a concise overview in Oracle docs at the moment.

Hi
1. This is possible and it should work. We can always change the backend soa schema instances from one db to another db. All we do is, modify the DataSources used on the Domain side to update with new db host, port, sid etc either in jdbc .xml files or from weblogic console.
2. I don't think, Oracle has any tools to move soa infra schemas from one db to another db. If we think logically, it more of DB Data Migration from One Env to another Env. So you need a good DB Tool to migrate all the schemas from one env to another.
3. Custom DB has nothing to do with the SOA Schemas. You may have some data refernces between these 2. But thats ok. You can retain or move custom db also, as far as you update those DataSources also on your SOA Domain side.
Proper DB tool, with good migration should work fine. We did the same a while back. Infact we did much more complex stuff. Originally we had all our soa schemas in single db instance and used this on BPM Domain. After a while, we decided to move back end soa into a Clustered Oracle RAC database with 2 nodes in totally different host, port etc. So we migrated all existing data into a 2 node rac database. Then On Weblogic BPM Domain side, since we used RAC, we had to create 2 normal data sources (for each node) and 1 multi data source to combine these 2. And it all worked fine. We first tested in dev and other ENV before moving to Prod though.
Bottom line, Oracle may not have tools to migrate. Use good DB Tools to migrate like db dump etc. Test in non prod Env and it should work fine.
Thanks
Ravi Jegga

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