Migration from SRM 5.0 Classic to SRM 7.0 ECS Pricing & Taxation Strategy

Hello All,
We are Upgrading from SRM 5.0 Classic to SRM 7.0 Extended Classic Scenario now. In SRM 5.0 Classic scenario pricing and taxation taken care by R/3 system. Now as part of ECS migration taxation and pricing to be moved from R/3 to SRM as leading PO created in SRM system.
What are the best practises to migrate the Pricing and Taxation into SRM system. Please provide some pointers on this.
Thanks and Regards,
Ramesh

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Migrating from SRM 7.0 Classic to ECS - Seeking some clarifications

Hello Friends,
We are now planning to upgrade from SRM 5.0 to SRM 7.0 and then migrated to Classic to ECS. We have the below challenging points which I need clarification,
1) How do we go about the Taxation and Pricing Part, If we migrate from Classic to ECS
2) Presently we have R/3 contracts in place and the same is linked to MDM catalogue and now the client wants the contracts to
    be in SRM. In that case how do we go about the strategy.
3) Asset Procurement: Now all WBS element are converting into assets by running the Z-Program in between PR and PO in R/3
   system. But when we migrate to ECS PO gets created in SRM, so how do we go about the asset procurement in ECS scenario.
4) Confirmation and Invoice transferring to R/3 through Idoc distribution Model. Going forward in SRM 7.0 the same will continue or
    do we go with SOA. Please confirm.
Further to this can you please let me know, what are all the major challenges for upgrading the system to SRM 7.0 and migration from Classic to ECS.
I would appreciate for you quick response. Points will be awarded for appropriate answers.
Thanks and Regards,
Ram.

Ramesh,
Few inputs for this project
1. You need to clearly seperate out the upgrate (5.0 to 7.0) and Migration (Classic to ECS) in your project planning to derisk the project i.e. you should have seperate testing cycle time/ efforts for upgrade and then on migration so that functional/ teachnical team working out in the project can clearly identifies issues between upgrade and migration seperately and work on them.
2. You have to work with business to make a decision on conversion of old classic PO's (incomplete GR/IR still required) and PO in process (SC created under approval in SRM). I strongly suggest you should not involve into conversion and keep it out of this project.
3. SRM do have option to take care of your tax configuration. BTW most of the company use external software to calculate tax amount.
4. You need to build workflow for PO in SRM since now PO will be created in SRM.
5. You need to create smartform / output determination in SRM for the PO. Please note SAP has provided some consulting notes if you continue to handle document transmission in backend with ECS.
6. Yes a distribution model needs to be setup for confirmation and Invoice if you are not doing it now in classic scenario.
Asset procurement solution you mentioned looks specific to your Org business needs, you need to explore to fit into new environment.
All the best
Thanks, Sachin
Edited by: sachindubey on Apr 10, 2010 12:13 PM

Data Migration from existing legacy to SRM

Hello All ,
We are preparing for cutover of our SRM implementation.
Version in SRM 5.0 tech scenario - Classic.
The business scenario is Sourcing with Bid Invitation.
At our client's place existing legacy is working where they have many open Bid Invitations.
We are looking for a way to migrate these BI to SRM.
Has anyone done this or similar activity before?
I saw one thread
LSMW in SRM
but was not much helpful.
Hence new post.
BR
Dinesh

Dinesh, since bid invitations are quite a operational document type, i.e. usually the bid invitation has not the character of master data or of a document with a long validity -- contrary to e.g. contracts, long term POs etc., I would generally question this as a valid requirement -- effort/money/time vs. business value.
If you still have enough reasons -- you need to custom build something I suppose. I would start analyzing at creation of a bid invitation (out of sourcing) and look up what exactly is posted where -- via debugging + what's on the tables after creation (BBP_PD). Generally, I would say there is too much dependency on master data residing in SRM, i.e. to create valid bid invitations in SRM you have to create certain master data - now existing only in the legacy system -. As well the 'migrated' bid invitations should be for display only.
I would not touch this - only if there is really a biiiiiig reason to do so. For history/reporting purposes I would try to extract the legacy data into BI instead of moving these things around into the SRM landscape.
Richard

SRM 7.0 Central Contracts Migration from ECC existing contracts

Hi colleagues
We are facing the implementation of SRM 7.0 in a client who has ECC installed and we have a doubt with contract migration
We are considering using SRM Central Contracts in order to get them replicated on ECC
All the contracts "alive" that exist in ECC should be created on SRM as central Contracts. The problem is that when you create a SRM central contract the system will replicate it to ECC ... in that case we will have the same contract twice on ECC
Does anybody face this situation?
I figure out that if at the moment we are creating SRM central contracts we turn off XI/PI the system would not replicate the contract to ECC but I think it would return an error without creating the contract on SRM... and even if we managed to create the central contracts in SRM without replicating them to ECC we would have the problem that both contracts wouldn´t be linked
We can´t consider the solution to be creating those contracts on SRM as SRM local contracts because we need to follow contract cicle in SRM after migration
Could anybody help me out with these?
Thanks
Regards

Hello,
You can upload contracts from ECC to SRM using report BBP_CONTRACT_INITIAL_UPLOAD in SRM.
If you want take care of document type mappings/ Condition type mappings, use badi BBP_CTR_INIT_UP in SRM.
Thanks,
Sushil.

Migration from Classic to Extended Classic

Hi all,
I would be grateful if you could let me know what is technically involved in migrating from classic to extended classic. We are using SRM 4.
I would also like to know how long this would take and any cost information and an impact on any current master data and new data that would need to be set up.
Many thanks.
Jeff.

Hi,
Pls see the foll thread:
Switching between Classic and exended classic
Related threads:
Classic / Extended Classic Scenario for Shopping Cart
Switch from Extended to Classic ?
Change from ECS to Classic Scenario
BR,
Disha.
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Contract Creation in SRM 7.0 classic scenario

Hi All,
We are using SRM 7.0 Classic scenario with ECC 6.0 EHP 4 and CLM 2. We are creating contracts in SAP CLM and pushing into as Global outline agreement.
Question is -
1) Can we create contracts in SRM 7.0 Classic scenario ?
2) Instead of transfering the ECC outline agreement to SRM , can we directly use ECC outline agreement as a source of supply in SRM while creating a SC.
3) How we can transfer the SAP CLM 2.0 contracts into SRM 7.0 and use a source of supply there while creating a SC ( Considereing that these CLM contratcs are also transfered to ECC as a outline agreement)
What are the mandatory fields required to transfer the CLM contracts contracts to ECC outline agreement - I know ,Vendor, Purchase org, Pur grp, company code are required - is product catagory is also a mandatory field.
Rgds/Pawan

Hi Pawan,
Please find the answered for your questions:
Question is -
1) Can we create contracts in SRM 7.0 Classic scenario ?
Mitesh: Yes we can very well create in Classic Scenario as well in SRM 7.0.SC can be pushed to SOCO based on the Prod Category configuration in SPRO.From SOCO PO, Contract and RFX can be created for SC.
2) Instead of transfering the ECC outline agreement to SRM , can we directly use ECC outline agreement as a source of supply in SRM while creating a SC.
Mitesh: I dont think we can use ECC outline agreement as source of supply in SRM while creating SC.Contract replication in SRM 7.0 with EHP 4 ECC is eSOA based and ONLY Outbound to SRM (inbound to ECC).Contract cannot be replicated from ECC to SRM.
3) How we can transfer the SAP CLM 2.0 contracts into SRM 7.0 and use a source of supply there while creating a SC ( Considereing that these CLM contratcs are also transfered to ECC as a outline agreement)
+Mitesh: Standard intergeration of CLM/ESO to SRM 7.0 is very much there in roadmap for future releases of SRM/ESO.+
+As of now there is a consulting solution available to integerate ECC and ESO/CLM.+
+This logic can be leveraged to integrate ESO/CLM to SMR 7.0 (or lower version) requiring Developement effort from SRM functional,SRM technical,PI, Basis,ESO and java consultants.+
+Such contracts can be forced to be used as Source of Supply or alternatively replicated to ECC Via standard repliation scenario.+
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Mitesh

Inforecord price for SRM originated orders - CLASSIC scenario

Hi! Few months' back, I have posted some questions re the behaviour of the price on the PO when orders are generated out of SRM in a classic scenarioI have just completed testing and ended up with the following results:
1. If I create a shopping cart with material number for direct consumption and have a vendor defaulted from vendor list, the price reflected in the PO is from the inforecord. So, effectively, I could have $1000 on my shopping cart but PO showing $950 as this is the value in the inforecord. The $1000 comes from the material condition record in SRM (extracted via EBP_GET_BACKEND_PRICES).
2. If I create a shopping cart with material number for STOCK and have a vendor defaulted from vendor list, the price reflected in the PO is that maintained on the shopping cart. Is this behaviour correct? Note that in this case, the master PO is in SRM even in a classic scenario and I wonder whether it is because of this that the pricing behaviour is different.
Other observation: For stock purchase, I know that if I have multiple vendors (from vendor list and some from inforecords) and if I picked one of the vendors, the price will be adopted at the point of shopping cart so that the user has a 'confirmed' view of the price and there should be no discrepancies of prices between the shopping cart and the PO.
Can someone please shed some lights as to what should the standard behaviour be?
Cheers!
SF

hello SF
rule :- shopping cart price is a material price and it comes from your report and prices are stored in COMMPR01 .( EBP_GET_BACKEND_PRICES BY this report).
really the prices are picked from source of suooly like infor record , vendor list or contract while creating the purchase order.
i create a shopping cart for 100 USD since material price is 100 usd but PO created for 75 USD.
since contract material price is 75 usd.
With regards to using report EBP_GET_BACKEND_PRICES to upload the
prices from the backend system into EBP. Please refer to the online
documentation of this report:
'Under "Price reference per product", you can specify if the average
value of all valuation groups/plants is to be calculated or if the
valuation price from the first valuation group/plant is to be used. If
the average value is to be calculated, choose "Average of all prices".
If you wish to use the first valuation price, choose "Use first price".
The standard setting calls for the "Average of all prices" to be
calculated.'
This is how this report works. If you want to take another price you
have to change the coding according your requirements.
You will need to debug into the backend through
RFC-Call for backend-table MBEW
CALL FUNCTION 'RFC_READ_TABLE' DESTINATION iv_rfcdest
in FORM read_mbew and see the select statement that reads this table.
The report is taking exactly one price out of the data
package extracted out of R/3. If this could also be a moving average
price is more a question which kind of data is extracted out of of R/3
and how the R/3 config looks like - and if this moving average is in thelist.

SRM 7 PPS Classic Scenario with Plan Driven Procurement?

Hello experts, I want to know if the combination of SRM 7 PPS Classic Scenario with Plan Driven Procurement is possible? or if there any limitation to consider? Our client needs to create purchase requisition in ERP -> send this purchase requisitions to SRM (as shopping carts) create bids - > quotations - > create contract from accepted quotations and then from the contract we need to create purchase order but this one must be created in ERP (classic scenario) Someone has experimented the same situation? Best regards and thanks for your Help.
Liam

Hi Lima ,
Classic scenario wont support PPS .
        - Stand alone and classic scenario not supported
        - Shopping cart renamed to Purchase Requisition
        - Shopping cart generate (pre)commitment in funds management
        - Contract can create Funds Reservation (Earmarked Funds) in Funds Management as a Guarantee
        - Goods Receipt and Invoice created in ERP
        - Mixed PO: PO with lines that works like contract lines, a PO can be created from these lines
        - PO created from contracts or mixed-PO is named call-off PO. Only is a new name, is a "normal" SRM      PO
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Thanks & Regards
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PO is created in the Backend Instead of PR - Classic Secnario - SRM 5.0

SRM experts,
My client has upgraded to SRM 5.0 and ECC 6.0 from SRM 3.0 and 4.6c version respectively. SRM is using classic scenario, so Shopping cart is created in SRM and Purchase Requisition and Purchase Orders are created in the backend system. In the Sources of supply tab, we will see the Vendor, Outline agreement and other information based on the Plant, Product category and Purchasing group we select in the shopping cart. If user selects the vendor with outline agreement in the sources of supply tab then Shopping cart will create Purchase order instead of Purchase requisition in the backend system. I am new at this clients site and client does not have any documentation about how these has been configure in the system. Can someone please help me to find out where the settings might have been made in the system to create Purchase order instead of Purchase requisition if shopping cart contains vendor with outline agreement. I am asking this question because we have another enhancement request with similar requirement but with different condition.
I will reward the points for helpful answers.
Thank you experts.
MP

Hi,
Could you checkthe foll cust link in SPRO:
Define Objects in Backend System (Purch. Reqs, Reservations, Purch. Orders).
PO is created if you set the "*" for EITHER the purchasing group OR the product category.
SRM is creating PR or PO depending on:
- SRM customizing (ex: always external proc + PR if incomplete, PO if complete)
- the interpretation of SC data by R/3.
IF your SC is considered complete by SRM (but with a fixed vendor and not a preferred vendor) the system will check if it can create a PO in R/3.
For this, each item will request a META_INTERPRETE_DATA to R/3, asking if it can create a PO. If R/3 considers this data as incomplete, it will reply to create a PR.
Usual cases of R/3 PR creation instead of PO:
- prefered vendor in SRM (and not a fixed one)
- custom checks in user exits in R/3
- error messages in R/3 (ex: O6 334 In the case of a fixed vendor, please enter info record)
To debug without debuging into R/3, you can also try the following:
- use BADI DETERMINE_TARGET_OBJECT and force PO creation
- so the system will always try to create a PO
- R/3 won't create the PO (for the same reason as in META_INTERPRETE_DATA), and will raise an error in SRM
- finally you get the real error in application monitor (SC --> backend application errors
Related thread:
Re: PO not create from SC with source of supply in classic sena
BR,
Disha.
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STO classic scenario SRM 4.0

Hi All,
We create SC that transferred to STO (Stock Transfer Order).
With the Classic Scenario(SRM 4.0) we use BBP_CREAT_PO_BACK.
A STO is created but the number of the STO is not displayed in SC.
Any suggestion ?
Thanks in Advance..
Moti

Hi Christophe
I) In CS - Did you use the scenario were a SC is transferred to a STO in R/3?
II) In ECS - Did you use the scenario were a SC is transferred to a PO in SRM and a STO in R/3?
Here are more detail of whate i have done:
A. In the Classic Scenario
I) Standard Purchse Order (this one works fine):-
I adapted the BADI BBP_CREATE_PO_BACK as follows :
1. Changing the document from EC to NB,
2. Changing the Vendor from 1000000272 to 1000000271,
Run the program - CLEAN_REQREQ_UP.
The system as expected - A PO is created and
In the Follow-on Document, in the SC, I get tow messages:
1. Shopping Cart 1000000508/1 Follow-on Document Created
2. Purchase Order 4400002238/1
II) Stock transport Order (here the problem arises):-
In order to create a STO
I adapted the BADI BBP_CREATE_PO_BACK as follows :
1. Changing the document type from EC to UB (STO),
2. Changing the Vendor to a Supplying Plant 236 (The central warehouse),
3. Changing the Item category 7 (U - Transport),
Run the program - CLEAN_REQREQ_UP.
A STO is created (Number 4400002239) but the number of the PO is not in
the SC.
In the Follow-on Document in the SC I get only onr tow message:
1. Shopping Cart 1000000511/1 Follow-on Document Created
To confirm the goods receipt of that STO from the status screen I get the messsge: 'PO 1 contains no items for confirmation'.
When confirming the goods receipt from the Confirm Goods/Service I get the message: 'PO 4400002239 contains no items for confirmation'.
B. In the Extended Classic Scenario
I adapted the BADI BBP_ECS_PO_OUT_BADI as follows :
Document type - UB (STO),
Supplying Plant 1000 (The central warehouse),
Item category 7 (U - Transport),
The BADI use the BAPI BAPI_PO_CREATE1.
The BAPI_PO_CREATE1 returns the following listed error messages:
'Net price must be greater than 0'.
Because the BAPI is activated whith extra parameters like: Invoice Receipt Indicator and Partial Invoice
Your help is appreciated.
Rgds
Yoram

Has anybody implemented SUS in SRM 5 - Extended classic - pls help

Hi There,
I would like to hear from anybody who has implemented SUS in SRM 5 - Extended Classic.
A client of mine is considering implementing SUS - SRM 5. I cannot find any SAP SUS related docuemntation for the Extended Classic scenario.
Do you have any helpful imformation i.e setup,config and tips that you can share with me.
Many thanks for your help in advance.
Thanks,
Sheena

Hi Sheena,
Please have a look at the link:
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/wiki?path=/display/srm/business+scenarios
Here you will find usefull information, like:
https://service.sap.com/~sapidb/011000358700002897382004E/Plan-DrivenwithSInew.pdf
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Peter

Shipping Notification in SRM 7 Extended Classic scenario

We are using SRM 7 Extended Classic. We do not have SUS.
Question - is it possible to create a Shipping Notification in SRM? or will it allow (or is it possible) to update PO in ERP system directly with Shipping Notification entered there? We do not plan on using SUS.
Thanks,
Ashwani

Ashwani,
If you are using SRM 7.0, in portal, you can have both SRM and ECC transactions appear in the same dashboard. I would think you can create ASN from there using ECC transactions.
SG

SRM -MDM in classic scenario

Hi,
Please let me know if am using SRM MDM in classic scenario then
u2022If I create a shopping cart in SRM do I need to maintain the product category of the items selected from MDM in SRM as well.
u2022Also, if PO is created in MM then does it mean that all the products in MDM have to be created in MM as well. If not then what is the scenario like.
Thanks,
Manu
Edited by: Manu Agrawal on Apr 24, 2009 12:15 PM

Hi
If my understanding is correct ,i will reproduce your question again . If you create shopping cart from the supplier catalogue in a classic scenario how the Material group sync happens when PO is created in the Back end R/3.
My assumption and the practice followed generally is that a Fixed Material group is decided and automatically maintained via OCI interface when shopping cart is created .Which means we define the rule for all catalogue items to determine and populate respective material group automatically into shopping cart.
As shopping cart is created since for the catalogue items there will be contract and source assigned in the ERP ,as soon as PR is replicated to R/3 as per classic scenario , the PR will have supplier assignment and if you run auto order transaction code system will generate PO in R/3 and sent to the supplier based on the condition records.
For the Material group you will configure it in R/3 for all catalogue items and replicate it in SRM and also you will provide input for the BADI or FM which create shopping cart automatically from catalogue through OCI method.
Hope this helps..
regards
Narahari

SRM 7.0: Classic Scenario no PO is created only PR is generated

Hi Gurus,
I am working on SRM 7.0 - Classic scenario.
When a shopping cart is complete in terms of price, vendor (assigned) and other required data, item stays in transfer process.
If a SC is incomplete a PR document is created in backend without a problem but when a complete SC is oredered, the status of shopping cart remains I1111 i.e. item in transfer process. I can see in table BBP_PDBEI, backend object type (BE_OBJECT_TYPE) is correctly selected as BUS2012 and the document number of PO is also correctly selected.
This is the case even for the SC ordered using catalog materials.
I have checked following configuration and it seems to be ok.
1. 'Define objects in backend system's
2. Number ranges definition in SRM and ECC
3. Document type attribute -BSA in PPOMA_BBP
Configuraiton wise everything seems to be, I tried to manually transfer the SC using FM BBP_REQREQ_TRANSFER but it does not change the status of SC it remains I1111
RZ20 does not show any error for the SC with status I1111.
Is there any sepcial FM to push the SC in SRM 7.0?
Any help/tips would be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Best Regards,
Amit

Hi Amit
what is the setting here
1. 'Define objects in backend system's
is it a prefered vendor or fixed vendor
update the partner function in bbp_pd here
if it is 39 - you wil recive pr
it is 19 you will get PO
i am afraid , you stated that catalog sc stoo this problem but during debugging check what is the partne rfunction...
there can be several reasons for creating PR instead of PO. Please see the FAQ note 1173815 for the possible reasons, and the guide for debugging under:
https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/SRM/Howtoanalyzethefollow-ondocumentdetermination
MOREOVER NOTE SAYS POSSIBLE REASONS ..
Note 336658 - Purch req instead of purch order created in backend
BR
Muthu

We work with SRM 5 Ext' Classic & report based on organization plan

Hello expert,
We work with SRM 5 Extended Classic scenario and BW for reports.
We have a lot of purchasing types and we need a good report that can give as a clear picture of the purchasing process according to the organization units (departments). We have one purchase organization and a lot of purchase groups, and the way that the system is built doesnu2019t support this requirement. We need a report that is based on the organization plan.
For example:
We need the option to extract all HR unit purchase documents or all direct supply goods that are purchased by the supply chain department. The report also needs to give a clear picture of the purchase operations and costs of every unit.
Thanks,
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